"Arrange Marriage"

**tndgu** · October 05, 2020, 05:35 AM

Hello guys.
I think favor gained via diplomatic marriage should be increased. It only gives +10! Who would send their mighty queen to a foreigner king for only +10? I can send a worth of a turn gold for +25. How does it make sense? What is the point of using this diplomatic option?

**MrTimbe68** · October 05, 2020, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by tndgu

Hello guys.
I think favor gained via diplomatic marriage should be increased. It only gives +10! Who would send their mighty queen to a foreigner king for only +10? I can send a worth of a turn gold for +25. How does it make sense? What is the point of using this diplomatic option?

Agreed. This outcome is scripted and can be easily altered. I've modded the lenght of this event for 5 years to come, so it can really make a difference. It is up to DeI developers how this should go but I'll leave it to them...

**tndgu** · October 05, 2020, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by MrTimbe68

Agreed. This outcome is scripted and can be easily altered. I've modded the lenght of this event for 5 years to come, so it can really make a difference. It is up to DeI developers how this should go but I'll leave it to them...

Can you please guide me to changing the outcome via scripting?
Never have done it before.

**MrTimbe68** · October 05, 2020, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by tndgu

Can you please guide me to changing the outcome via scripting?
Never have done it before.

Its easy, the file is "politics_trait_defs.lua" inside lua_scripts. I strongly advise you to do a separate mod/pack for this since you don't wanns mess vanilla DeI up....

Find this:

start = the loyalty value per turn and
turn = how many turns so 40 turns is 10 years and so....

**Dresden** · October 05, 2020, 02:36 PM

I think the loyalty bonus also comes from the ancillary effects table, specifically

r2_sp_anc_all_wife_dynastic

r2_sp_anc_all_husband_dynastic

and the effect is rom character diplomatic marriage relations

**MoraleBooster** · October 06, 2020, 10:39 AM

Yep, as it currently it is, it's not worth it to trade your daughters away at all to some foreign king, the poor lasses!

**Callicles** · October 06, 2020, 06:18 PM

I've never used this feature - is it limited to certain factions? I've never noticed it before and am really curious to see how it works? Does the spouse become part of your faction? Is it limited to female characters, or can it be modded to include male characters too?

**tndgu** · October 06, 2020, 06:41 PM

I have female generals sub-mod.
Not really, they aren't joining to you faction, however you get the notification of honorable death when they die as if they were in your faction.
As you can see you only get +10 diplo from "spouse" traits, which is useless in my opinion, I would much prefer +2 gravitas per turn, or public order etc.

Originally Posted by Callicles

I've never used this feature - is it limited to certain factions? I've never noticed it before and am really curious to see how it works? Does the spouse become part of your faction? Is it limited to female characters, or can it be modded to include male characters too?

**Jake Armitage** · October 07, 2020, 04:03 AM

Originally Posted by MrTimbe68

Its easy, the file is "politics_trait_defs.lua" inside lua_scripts. I strongly advise you to do a separate mod/pack for this since you don't wanns mess vanilla DeI up....

Find this:

start = the loyalty value per turn and
turn = how many turns so 40 turns is 10 years and so....

that's for marriage between different parties not factions
between factions should be via ancs only

**MrTimbe68** · October 08, 2020, 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by Jake Armitage

that's for marriage between different parties not factions
between factions should be via ancs only

Ah so!

How can you even marriage from another faction, needs this female generals sub-mod?

**tndgu** · October 08, 2020, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by MrTimbe68

Ah so!

How can you even marriage from another faction, needs this female generals sub-mod?

I think so...
I haven't played without this mod since eternity. So I thought something was wrong. Without this sub-mod, is it not possible to arrange marriages between factions?

**Dresden** · October 08, 2020, 01:10 PM

I believe the faction's leader has to be unmarried?

**tndgu** · October 08, 2020, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by Dresden

I believe the faction's leader has to be unmarried?

Yes, both should be.
Dresden, in this case, should I contact the female generals sub-mod maker?
Because +10 makes really no sense at all.

**Avarice1987** · October 09, 2020, 09:31 AM

Both must be unmarried, I usually let Antonius Cleopatra marry... ...and, yes, there is room for improvement.

You can marry faction leaders to each other, but they must both be unmarried. And you can marry members of the political factions to each other in the Stammbaun. Here the advantages are clearly weighed up.

I don't know if Jake's PIGS submod is final or if there's anything else coming up

**Dresden** · October 10, 2020, 03:13 PM

Its not the submod I don't think, its just the normal effect on the ancillary that gives 10 diplomatic relations, if that is what you are referring to.

**Jake Armitage** · October 11, 2020, 06:00 AM

there is a DIPLOMATIC MARRIAGE string in the cai_personality_diplomatic_event_values with value and falloff
fpr what I remember dei didn't change those values