Some comments to previous bold claims made here...
Originally Posted by
PointOfViewGun
Islam doesn't demand death for leaving Islam. ...
This is a lie...
Sahih al-Bukhari 6922 states, and I quote
..."according to the statement of Allah's Messenger, 'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'" As this is a part of the Islamic source material - its a part of Islam. For us dirty unbelievers that essentially translates into *Mohammed said - anyone who leaves Islam, kill them*. So that settles that, I think.
Originally Posted by
PointOfViewGun
Misrepresenting facts is a common companion of Islamophobia.
Misrepresenting the facts appears to be common theme in pro-Islamic activism as well... It seems...
Originally Posted by
PointOfViewGun
99% of FGM is not committed by Muslims. It's a region specific practice, not religion specific. Vast majority of Muslims don't practice it. Misrepresenting facts is a common companion of Islamophobia.
I am hardly an expert on FGM-matters but I am pretty sure that this "99%-claim" is a fabrication. I can not find anything that actually support or confirm that in the
Prevalence of female genital mutilation wiki-page or in the
Religious views on female genital mutilation wiki-page. Neither can confirm or provide basis for that impressive 99% claim. However, I certainly can find plenty that contradicts it and suggest otherwise. UNICEF lists the top 5 countries with the highest levels of support for FGM -
Mali,
Guinea,
Sierra Leone,
Somalia and
Egypt - and all 5 just
happens to be Islam-majority countries. ...What a coincidence... And yet, supposedly 99% of all FGM is still somehow magically committed by
non-Muslims almost exclusively - according to the claim. It does not add up very well, now does it? The "99%-claim" also provides us with a bunch of other unexplained paradoxes for us to consider as well. I will just forward a few here...
1. In
Somalia (east Africa) apparently 98% of the females aged 15-49 years are mutilated somehow, and that in a country were supposedly 99.8% are Muslims. So that means that the non-defined 0.2 % of the population would then basically be responsible for mutilating 98% of the entire female population there - aged 15-49 years - which is nothing short of amazing as far as paradoxes go! BTW, we are talking about at least 5 million
Muslim females here. Strange, really strange...
2. In
Indonesia (south Asia) - who also has the largest Muslim population in the world - some
55 million Muslim girls/females are apparently mutilated a somehow. That is a remarkable since 99% of FGM is supposedly done by none-Muslims we are told - yet some 55 million Muslim females magically have the scars to prove that FGM is employed en-masse there. Those
non-muslims must be really busy cutting and slicing those poor Muslim girls/females left and right it seems. And is it not strange that the Indonesian Muslim majority seems to be just fine with that? UNICEF estimates that at least 200 million females in the world suffers from FGM (various types). How is it then possible that Indonesia
by itself - as an Islamic country - are already
beyond 25% of that figure? It is quite a mystery how all that add up with the claim, not to mention a strange paradox indeed...
3. In
Malaysia (south Asia) apparently some 93% of females from
Muslim families (about 9 million females) have been mutilated. That's really odd since we are told that 99% of all FGM is done by non-Muslims, right? So how these 9 million mutilated Muslim females came to be is a complete mystery it seems? Really odd, isn't it... Those
non-Muslims sure like to do FGM on them poor Muslim girls for some mysterious and strange reasons...
Another thing we find in Malaysia is that FGM is prevalent in the dominant
Muslim community, but not observed in its minority Buddhist and Hindu communities. Strange, really strange... Yet 99% of FGM is still not committed by Muslims supposedly... The government sponsored Fatwa Committee National Council of Islamic Religious Affairs decided in April 2009 that female circumcision was
a part of Islamic teachings and it should be observed by Muslims, with the majority of the jurists in the Committee concluding that female circumcision is obligatory (wajib). How strange is that?!? As 99% of FGM is still not commited by Muslims supposedly. Nah, the Malaysian Fatwa Committee National Council of Islamic Religious Affairs had no idea what they are doing apparently - and ruled in favor of FGM despite 99% of FGM is still not commited by Muslims... Isn't that a grand paradox folks?
4. In
Switzerland (Europe), the
Islamic Central Council classified removal of the clitoral foreskin, a less severe form of FGM, as sunna (recommended). They did that in 2018 despite it was
outlawed in the Switzerland in 2012 to perform FGM, or arranging for it to be performed overseas. All this is very strange as as supposedly 99% of all FGM is still commited by others then Muslims, and yet the Islamic Central Council decided it was a great idea to recommend FGM in 2018 - some 6 years AFTER FGM was outlawed in Switzerland... What a paradox, what a paradox....
5. In
Mauritania (west Africa) - an Islamic republic - over 70% of its female population aged 15-49 had been the victims of FGM according to multiple surveys (conducted 2001 and 2007). About 57% of Mauritania women believe FGM is a
religious requirement and this despite some 99% are identified as Muslims in Mauritania. That's a remarkable paradox. Not to mention that the 1% of non-Muslims are somehow supposedly allowed to do FGM on 70% of the entire Muslim female population without any sort of reaction from the 99% Muslim majority there - what is a strange paradox indeed. And yet, supposedly 99% FGM is still not committed by Muslims we are told... That is an impressive paradox for sure... BTW, we are talking about at least 1 million
Muslim females here....
In short, either we totally believe these 5 ridiculous outlined paradoxes are real or we believe that the 99%-claim is a fabrication...
..."It's a region specific practice, not religion specific."
Folks, I'm pretty sure this claim is a fabrication as well... After all, that quite some "region" we are talking about there - it is spanning from the coast of west Africa all the way to Egypt and horn of Africa, and then it continues from the Arabic peninsula to parts of the middle east then parts of Iran and Pakistan - and then again in Malaysia, Indonesia and Brunei. Curiously, it also happens to match up rather well with many (if not most) Islamic territories along the way somehow - what strange coincidence, isn't it? Furthermore, multiple Islamic councils all over the world have de facto offered their theological opinions and conclusions on FGM - that would be utterly redundant if FGM was not somehow relevant or important to Islam somehow - as is claimed. Obviously that is not true and thus we have yet another fabrication, on that note...
..."Vast majority of Muslims don't practice it."
Its hard to tell for sure folks... It is clear is that at least half of all Islamic countries in the world do practice FGM to various extents - and that circumstance alone suggests that many, if not a majority of Muslims do practice it somehow. As many Muslims do live in such Islamic countries we
can be rather certain that it is
not a nominal minority we talking about here (Pakistan and Iran might be exceptions here). However without the hard data one can only speculate on this, but it is clear it is nowhere close to a small insignificant minority - as we are led to believe by the claim - and in that sense, the claim is obviously untrue and blatantly dishonest. As is so often the case with various pro-Islamic activism. If in doubt, Youtube have plenty of clips of such stuff...
Originally Posted by
PointOfViewGun
Misrepresenting facts is a common companion of Islamophobia.
Considering what has just been explained above - does pro-Islamic activism and propaganda behave any better? It sure don't look like it...
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