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    Default Embargo lifted, gameplay videas starting to pop out :)

    CA one

    and youtubers

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    Default Re: Embargo lifted, gameplay videas starting to pop out :)

    Amazon DLC preview


    and second part from JackieFish
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    Default Re: Embargo lifted, gameplay videas starting to pop out :)

    So I finally catch up and watch almost all videos...

    What I like
    -Characters seems to be really different
    -Campaign mechanics seems to offer pretty lot stuff. Religion+tech tree+skill tree....
    -New resource system + trade + diplomacy + recruitment/building options
    -Battle maps! Finally more complex, obstacles, rocks, hills...

    What is like +/-
    -Truth behind myth. Units are okay however characters abilities, some characters, religion actually provides significant part of bonuses....so it is like each part of game is trying to pursue different way.


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    Zerkovitch
    +like game
    -might be there bugs,lack of polish like animations
    -not better battles then other TWs although map design one of best
    -not better campaing either
    -setting probably not as famous as Rome/Med for example
    -fantasy/history again cotradiction...
    -nothing super new there...
    ->great new experience for new people, veterans probably go back to others..

    Spartacus
    +great UI
    +great campaing mechanics
    +battles maps +battle pace slow down+usage of terrain
    +skill trees
    +diplomacy..trading region, quick deals,..3K

    -autoresolving battles too much like 3K
    ->positive experience

    JackieFish
    +campaign part amazing (empire building, resources, 3K diplomacy....)
    -boring battles (unit collisions, most battles units don´t matter..until hero dies, duels, pathfinding in sieges, magic ladders..)
    it´s not free
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    Default Re: Embargo lifted, gameplay videas starting to pop out :)

    and another video about Paris


    and one more CA stream about Menealos
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    Default Re: Embargo lifted, gameplay videas starting to pop out :)

    A nice summary of constructive criticism that could help improve the game:


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    What I see as main problem now are units and battles. Not enviroment, maps itself but units. Animations, combat, unit variety the game seems to lack in this department. Lower is video from JackieFish and he as well is pointing out battles, collisions...Which is pretty sad as maps are really feeling like usaful for flankings, usage of various terrain. I hope we will in future see more interaction like setting trees on fire, destroying buildings and garrisonable stuff... One can only wish..

    The rest is actually pretty interesting. I agree resource system could be deeper but actually it is best so far we had. So it might be interesting for any future trade oriented game (Empire 2 ? not sure Wh3...), stuff like diplomacy, agents, UI

    What is really missing is naval combat. But I agree there is not much records for that. Yet absence is somehow visible...



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    Cannot find exact source for picture and what it should really depict, but if my understanding of reddit is correct, behold, mighty sirens..
    https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/co...ric_total_war/
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    Yes, Sirens is one of the few remaining "monsters". Harpies are also now made public:
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

    Since giants have also been revealed, I think the only remaning mythical units are the Corybants, but perhaps reddit has also discovered them. Of course, they could have been ditched in the final game, but I rather doubt it. About the Sirens, they are in my opinion the second most kitsch unit in the Total War franchise, although nobody can surpass the crocodile warriors of the Beasts of War DLC for Rome II. Still, it doesn't bother me too much, I wish my most pressing issue with the current games was the unit appearance...

    By the way, a general and slightly whiny observation. I remember pretty well that provocative mods, which depicted the female commanders of Three Kingdoms dressed in a very revealing way, were banned in the social media platforms, because a Creative Assembly representative found them offensive. I don't disagree with Grace's criticism, but it now seems a bit hypocritical (although they Sisters of Slaughter and their pink-haired crown weren't particularly more prudish), considering the bikinis of the Sirens. Our ideals should concern everyone, not just certain obscure modifications.

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    Default Re: Embargo lifted, gameplay videas starting to pop out :)

    One more stuff, looks like at least one Amazaon faction is "horde"


    Anyway. I personally don´t have problem with lightly dressed women but it seems women will be more common on Troy battlefields than horses. So whole Myth behind Legend....I would either go full Fantasy, as Sisters of Pain etc are ok in Wh or full history but this mess.

    EDIT: and your missing Corybantes and Spartoi Abdul
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


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    The reviews show a clear, albeit grudging, shift in the way the reviewers viewed the game. Initially, they were pessimistic about the game. Now that they've started playing the campaign at length the game seems to provide one of the best campaign game plays. The UI looks incredibly well made. If the battles receive some improvements this can turn to be a great success. Hopefully, they'll make more battle focused reviews like they've done for Rome II.
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    True. UI, campaign maps, mechanics especially trade are really awesome heck even battle maps. But watching JackieFish and a few others, they all made the same comment. Units, collisions, variations, animations. Core of battles is boring, heroes are centerpiece, armies are breaking and running and returning but till you manage to remove enemy lords, nothing is impactful enough....(now...hopefully it will be balanced before launch )
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    Their comments on collision was a red flag. Years ago, the same people criticized collision for units stopping the moment first rank touches. Now we have light units mingling up to 4th rank as they charge at each other and the same people say there is no collision. I'm not sure what people want.
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    YouTube Reviewer must remain somewhat optimistic when doing reviews as if they dont, gaming companies wont send them copy of their games before release dates, and so reviewers will loose their irl income.

    Fortunately the game will be free on day one to check it out personally ...

    The game seems somewhat uninspired. Battles are apparently not good. I am more a campaign player but speaking honestly I am weary about more "in depth" campaign map features since the debacle named Attila (a game that merely punish who ever dares to play it). ToB and Three Kingdoms did not improve my judgment on CA ability to make both complex and fun campaign gameplay while TW Warhammer reminded me how much fun the TW formula is when there is no nonsense mechanics.

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    Seems very promising, I'm really liking what has been show until now.

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    All mythical units
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