Full install for Stainless Steel 6.4, Meloo Fix, Steam compatible

**Gigantus** · June 30, 2021, 09:04 PM

It helps a lot with the stability of old 32bit games. Can't help with script\file issues, though.

**Kopronim** · July 11, 2021, 04:13 AM

I have crossed the entire 14th century without any crashes at all, whatsoever, not even a single one in 100 turns. I've never had to turn on the battle CTD fix. It's either this virtual RAM extension, or the new patch, but most likely both.

**Sagopa** · July 26, 2021, 11:51 AM

Hello everyone, i installed the mod as Gigantus told. I made some quick battles which were nice. But I can't play the campaign at all. It just crushed when i click to start campaign with error of medieval 2 encountered unspecified bla bla. What can i do to fix this

**Sagopa** · July 26, 2021, 12:31 PM

Fk this mod man. I played lands to conquer for years and not even one fking crash occured. For years! this

mod is with full of bugs!

**Gigantus** · July 26, 2021, 09:04 PM

Can't win them all, see the poster above you.

A crash when starting the campaign can have multiple reasons. Did you apply the patch?

**Sagopa** · July 27, 2021, 02:22 AM

Hello Gigantus. Really appreciate your work here man. So many crashes made me so angry. Are you talking about where you said 'This patch fixes the above issues'? I installed it. I changed compability to windows xp3 and finally started to a campaign and i said to myself 'wow this was all the reason to crashes' and then hit turn and boom crashed again. I started another campaign and crashed again. It doesnt crash right after i click, its when loading bar gets full. By the way i play battles without any issue

**Sagopa** · July 27, 2021, 02:23 AM

Also i used laa to see any difference, nope...

**Sagopa** · July 27, 2021, 02:24 AM

I player lands to conquer mod wuthout any issue not one crash. That mod is not kingdoms mod so i really thing these issues related to kingdoms files

**Sagopa** · July 27, 2021, 02:25 AM

Originally Posted by Sagopa

I played lands to conquer mod wuthout any issue not one crash. That mod is not kingdoms mod so i really thing these issues related to kingdoms files

**Sagopa** · July 28, 2021, 03:34 AM

Finally found problem. I cut and paste whole medieval 2 file outside program files and game worked weirdly.

**Kopronim** · July 28, 2021, 04:21 PM

Would it be possible to feature chainshot as anti-troop ammunition for certain types of cannons in a future patch, like this in the Borgias TV series? While I'm not sure it really was used at that time, it was certainly used in the early 17th century, and as this mod covers almost the entirety of the 16th century, I don't think it would be a stretch to give this feature to some of the later cannons, like the basilisk. I love the grapeshot of grand bombards for its troop killing potential, and grand bombards themselves for their destructiveness against walls, which is why I never use any other cannons once I have these. Chainshot, if possible, would be a (morbidly) fun reason to upgrade when newer types of cannons become available.

I understand newer cannons can lay stakes, but since they can't fire grapeshot, I have no reason to keep them in front of my troops and exposed to cavalry, so I'd keep them behind them on a hill anyways. Some of them say they have explosive shots, but I've found that's only in word and explosive shots have apparently been removed.

**William the Silent** · July 31, 2021, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by Kopronim

Would it be possible to feature chainshot as anti-troop ammunition for certain types of cannons in a future patch, like this in the Borgias TV series? While I'm not sure it really was used at that time, it was certainly used in the early 17th century, and as this mod covers almost the entirety of the 16th century, I don't think it would be a stretch to give this feature to some of the later cannons, like the basilisk. I love the grapeshot of grand bombards for its troop killing potential, and grand bombards themselves for their destructiveness against walls, which is why I never use any other cannons once I have these. Chainshot, if possible, would be a (morbidly) fun reason to upgrade when newer types of cannons become available.

I understand newer cannons can lay stakes, but since they can't fire grapeshot, I have no reason to keep them in front of my troops and exposed to cavalry, so I'd keep them behind them on a hill anyways. Some of them say they have explosive shots, but I've found that's only in word and explosive shots have apparently been removed.

I know they used that in Naval warfare to cut through sails and cables of the enemy ships to handicap them. Don't know what effect it should have on walls or men.

**zocker5534** · August 03, 2021, 08:00 AM

Hello everyone,
I have been following this thread since its creation. After reading every single post I would like to summarise what fixes have been suggested here and my experience with them.

1. By now, I am 99.9% sure that I have installed the mod correctly after reinstalling it 3 or 4 times to check for different results. I have also installed the hotfix multiple times with different methods (install on desktop, then drag & drop + the "normal" installer way).
2. My game is not installed in Program Files, it's installed on a second hard drive.
3. I applied the 4GB patch.
4. Did not try the fix suggested in post #111 yet.

Some things I have tried already:
1. Verified the game files mutliple times via steam to check for corrupted/missing files in the base installation.
2. Changed my game language from German to English in case that might have caused any problems (in the German version of the game there are missing voices if I remember correctly).
3. Used the most basic settings in the SS setup (AI, disabled RR/AOR, permanent watchtowers) and disabled v-sync in the config.
4. Tried different campaigns with different factions.
5. Tried different mods, namely DaC and Kingdoms Grand Campaign mod to see if I encounter any problems there.

My experience/observations:
My problems with the mod were and still are CTDs in loading screens, especially before and after battles. This was reproduceable everytime I played. In my testing, the hotfix, which is supposed to fix loading screen related CTDs, did not make a difference at all or I did not notice any. I ensured that I installed the hotfix correctly by using different methods as mentioned above and running the file checker again, which came back as 83 files bad and 1 missing. As Gigantus has stated in this thread before, the file checker verifies the original files and the result speaks for a correct installation, because the hotfix modified the original files. I think there is still a problem in the current Stainless Steel installation, which causes these CTDs. In the other mods I have tested, I encountered only 2 CTDs, which where not loading screen/battle-related. Other than these annyoing loading screen CTDs I have had only a few end-turn crashes, so this installation is already more stable than the older one. I will add a few lines of my system log below, where a siege was innitiated with a crash following in the loading screen. Since I study history and not computer science, I will paste the lines of the log where I think the siege/loading screen was initiated and warning/error lines are situated. I hope someone can read logs and maybe find the problem, which is hopefully applicable for everyone still encountering this.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

At this point I want to thank Gigantus for creating this installer in first place and I hope my post can eventually help to fix this otherwise awesome mod!

I would like to correct my previous post by adding that it were 82 and not 83 files flagged as "bad" after the verifying process. Just in case anyone wants to compare or it makes a difference.

Sorry for the "spam", but my rather long post has not been reviewed by a moderator yet, so I basically corrected my post that has yet to come.

**Muramasa1794** · August 09, 2021, 03:23 PM

Do I extract files to Medieval mods folder?

**Muramasa1794** · August 09, 2021, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by Gigantus

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There is an issue with the numerical sequence of quotes that can lead to a crash when a loading screen is starting up, eg after a battle.
Note for submods: For some mysterious reason the texture for the Novgorod banner symbol is missing in the SS base installation (the repack uses the Kievan symbol instead) which may cause submods to crash with the following error:

Code:

[system.io] [warning] open: mods/ss6.3/data/models_strat/textures/#banner_symbol_novgorod.tga is missing
[data.invalid] [error] Insufficient video memory to load requested texture set.

This patch fixes the above issues.

When I try to start the mod from launcher I get "Medieval II suffered a fatal error and will now exit." I installed everything the right way though.

Edit: Nevermind fixed the issue its working fine. God bless for making Stainless Steel easy to install Gigantus

**Gigantus** · August 10, 2021, 10:09 PM

@zocker - the 'hotfix' is addressing an issue with continuity in the quotes which leads to loading screen crashes. The suggestion in post #111 deletes the relevant files. Both, the main installer and hotfix' are automated installers and shouldn't require any changes in set up unless your registry is corrupted in which case the installer cannot find the M2TW directory.
The file verification will only work when executed at the end of the installation. The first run, as well as the initial set up (AI etc) will result in files being created\copied\edited and hence those 83 files will get flagged at a later verification.

@muramasa - glad you got it sorted out.

**tylerodonell** · September 30, 2021, 08:27 AM

I hope this isn't too goofy a question, but where exactly is the M2TW main directory? When I tried using the installer, i just got the "myproduct" installation path, even after un and reinstalling M2TW. just for context, im playing the definitive edition on steam. If I could just be given the proper installation path for my situation, that'd be really helpful

**Parelius** · October 15, 2021, 01:11 PM

@Gigantus I'm kinda lost here. Last time I've installed SS 6.4 was 1 year ago in the middle of May. It says I have bugfix compilation v 1.27. Do I have to install this newest version? Seems like there are some changes - for example I see that scorched earth is now turned on

**Gigantus** · October 15, 2021, 08:20 PM

'MyProduct' - as it says during the installation: in that case browse to your medieval ii total war directory which in steam is usually in this path: "...\Steam\steamapps\common\Medieval II Total War"
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I released this repack by taking the original installation and adding meloo's fix to it. That's about it, apart from some minor stuff that I listed in the history.

The main objective was to make the installation easier, especially for Steam users, but also for Mac.

**DedBludUK** · October 25, 2021, 04:08 AM

Alot of the bug fix compilations ive found are outdated or something. I click on download and the website for download doesnt work anymore (Meloo fix etc). Having fun playing a campaign but SO many crashes on battles. Finish and win a hard battle... only for it to CTD whn going back to map. AAAAAAHHHH!

Can you repost links or thread for these bug fix compilations? Thanks

Originally Posted by Gigantus

'MyProduct' - as it says during the installation: in that case browse to your medieval ii total war directory which in steam is usually in this path: "...\Steam\steamapps\common\Medieval II Total War"
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I released this repack by taking the original installation and adding meloo's fix to it. That's about it, apart from some minor stuff that I listed in the history.

The main objective was to make the installation easier, especially for Steam users, but also for Mac.

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