Death of George Floyd and Subsequent Riots.

[Vanoi]

Biggest dip seems between 2014-2015. Thats just around the time Eric Garner died.

As for the 2012 decrease, that was an election year. You had the Tea Party Movement and the increasing polarization of American politics.

Though from what i see the real decrease actually starts in 2013.

[Cope]

Yes. The Zimmerman case may have been a trigger, but again, I'm only speculating.

[mongrel]

Both of these points are true, though it appears that as systemic racism (historically provable) has eroded, the grievance narrative has been strengthened. The data suggests that race relations declined rapidly in 2012/13. While I can only speculate as to why this was the case, it was around the time that activist left brought the concept of "white privilege" into the mainstream, race grifting became common place on social media and there was a massive uptick in mentions of systemic racism, diversity and inclusion and social justice etc. in the liberal press.

Gallup poll on race relations.

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Mentions of certain words/phrases in liberal media outlets.

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Bollocks.Racist bollocks at that. The only race grifting was generated by Proud Boys and Islamophobes. Race relations went to when Zimmerman walked after killing Travyon Martin and then decided to not only make money from it , but also allowed to sue his parents. It generated a sense of impunity for violent racists which is demonstrated by the recent lynching of Ahmaud Arbery. I 'd expand on that but there are more important things far more relevant the situation, see below.

Secretary of Defense Mark Esper has stated that he does not support using active duty troops to quell protests triggered He said those forces should only be used in a law enforcement role as a last resort. It sends a signal to US armed forces commanders as to where their responsibilities lie and leaves draft dodger Trump either having to choose impotence or trying to compel commanders to do his will and risk a slapping down.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/03/p...sts/index.html


He was also disgusted by the events at St John's . I wonder if that persuaded him that Trump needed to be checked. As Brendan Buck a GOP aide said 'We long ago lost sight of normal, but this was a singularly immoral act.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...esters-DC.html

[Common Soldier]

President Trump regularly shows solidarity with police, regardless of how guilty they are in perpetrating police brutality. He also has an unhealthy tolerance for White supremacists.

None of which is relevant to the George Floyd incident. The President does not control the training or behaviour of the local police, the local, in this case Democratic politicians, do. White supremacist did not kill George Floyd, ans Trump supports the police which includes black, asian, and cops of any other ethnicity and race. Rhd person who is exhibiing racism is you.

Obama didn't call protesters looters or urge Governors to deploy the military. Trump also closed one of Obama's police reform programs.

No, Obama sid far worse, by making a simple matter of self defense a polarizing racial issue by withholding critical facts.




This is nonsensical.



Drawing lines where none exist. When did BLM say that police brutality towards whites does not matter? They didn't. This is akin to accusing rainforest activists of being okay with letting other types of forests burn.

This again. Martin was shot because Zimmerman followed him with a firearm. If Zimmerman did not follow Martin, Martin would've been alive.

No, Marin was shot because he physcally assaulted Zimmerman in manner that gave Simmerman a reasonable fear for his life. In Martin hadn't assaulted Zimmerman, Martin would be alive. Martin could hage just ignored Zimmerman and walked home, and Martin would still be alive today.

It was not illegal for Zimmerman to follow Martin, but it was illegal for Martin to physically assUlt Zimmerman. And to try the riduculous narrative that somehow Martin was in fear for his life is nonsense. To claim Martin couldn't have outrun a middle aged overweight Zimmerman is just typical of the lies the left likes to tell.


No, Martin died because he decided to beat up someone with a gun. It is a tragedy, but one of Trayvon Martin's own making as much as anyone. Martin had a cell phone, so.if he was afraid he could and should have called 911, but he didn't, thus disproving the selfdefense angle by Martin.



In the case of black watchman Roderick Scott, he knew full well he was going into a dangerous situtation because he grapped his gun before he left the safety of his house, and he shot the white kid multiple times (unlike Zimmerman's one shot) before the kid had even touched him. Yet the left defend Rodney Scott solely because he was black, double standards. The friends wbo were with the student contradicted Scott's story. Scott could have waited in the safety of his house, but chose to kill someone instead. Oh by the way, Scott shot the white student in the back. Of.course, Obama did not make it an issue because rhe victim was white not black.

Black-on-Black crime is not exactly an issue. This is misinterpretation of data. The reason why the majority of victims of Black homicide are also Black, is due to the fact that most homicide is interracial. Majority of Hispanic victims are other Hispanics, Blacks on Blacks, Whites on Whites. Moreover, Black Lives Matter is primarily concerned with how the Justice System treats African Americans and other minorities. It's a completely separate issue from Black on Black violence, or White on White violence, etc.

You own figure show that despite being on 13% of the population, African American commit half the murders. Blacks, especially youths like Trayvon Martin, are 4 to 5 times more likely to be murdered and vast majority by blacks themselves, and that is not issue that murder is a leading cause of death among young black males? Your actions and the facts themselves show that politics, not justice is your motivating factor and that of the BLM. Had you truly cared about lives, you would never have said itnian't an issue. Those statistics are only not an issue if you don't really care about lives.


PS - your statitics show blacks kill almost twice as many whites as whites kill blacks. Had the ratio been reversed you and the BLM would be touting that as another proof of racism. Should we apply a consistent standard and use that as proof of black racism? Everyone knows about the violence in the African American community, ans by pretendig it doesn't exist or blaming it on cops instead of admitting the truth and taking ownership, it only sours race relationships. (The difference in the numbers of whites killed by blacks and blacks killed by whites isn't enough for a reasonable person to make an issue of it, but if you used the BLM approach you could make it an issue, which is my point.)

[Common Soldier]

Bollocks.Racist bollocks at that. The only race grifting was generated by Proud Boys and Islamophobes. Race relations went to when Zimmerman walked after killing Travyon Martin and then decided to not only make money from it , but also sued his parents. I 'd expand on that but there are more important things far more relevant the situation.

Bollocks back at you. Race relationship went down the tube when the left perpetuate lies like Obama actively promote double standards. Nobody from the left complained when black neighborhood watchman Roderick Scott walked after gunning down an unarmed white student in the back years before Zimmerman. Apparently, Obama didn't care if the victim.was white. As fo suing Martins parents, after giving a photo of a 13 year old Martin to the Media instead of a picture showing Martin's actual age, that might be legitimate grounds for a lawsuit. It was rather bigoted on their part to deliberately mislead the public by showing an picture of an angelic years younger Martin than the older trouble maker he actually was. Martin was expelled from school, for reasons the school refuses to share (for beating someone up or stealing, perhaps, either reason being highly relevant to the Zimmerman shooing.) An unfortunate incident yes, but make.mistake, Martin is dead because he physically assaulted.Zimmerman, no other reason. If you want to blame Zimmerman following a suspected burglar as the cause, you might as well blame Martin getting himself expelled from school (perhaps for.stealing?), which is why he was in the neighborhood in the first place.

It was a tragedy, but if Martin had just ignored Zimmerman and walked home instead of assaulting Zimmerman, he would be alive.

Secretary of Defense Mark Esper has stated that he does not support using active duty troops to quell protests triggered He said those forces should only be used in a law enforcement role as a last resort. It sends a signal to US armed forces commanders as to where their responsibilities lie and leaves draft dodger Trump either having to choose impotence or trying to compel commanders to do his will and risk a slapping down.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/03/p...sts/index.html

Again politicing the issue. Military troops are not particularly trained in crowd.control, and state governorss have state miltias at their disposal to handld the issue, although they should be a last resort, police are better trained in handling these issues. No President would send in troops unless asked by the governor, and I don't see any governor asking, since that would be an admission of in competence.

[Ludicus]

George Floyd incidient occurred in a Democrarically controlled state wirh a Democratic mayoe and cops that were tained and controlled by local Democratic leaders.

Minnesota has voted for Democrats for president since 1976. This is what I said, a few days ago.
#184

Simply put, America suffers from a generalized, endemic racism. They are both guilty, Democrats and Republicans. But the Republican Party is re-positionating itself, aggressively and progressively, as the Party of Trump's racism.

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"Trump's Racism: An Oral History - The Atlantic
New poll: 83% of African Americans say Trump is a racist - Axios"

And what is rhe relevance of this? So how is Trump reaponaible?

The relevant evidence is the fact that as the entire America erupted in protest, the Racist-in-Chief falsely blames riots on antifascists, constantly pouring gasoline on the fire,and -as someone has already pointed out- seems very close to trying to incite a civil war. The abnormal President of the US has threatened military intervention. Meanwhile, US governors condemn Trump's threat to unleash the US military to restore law and order: Riots flare in New York, Washington and LA as Trump

The moron pledged to declare antifascists a terrorist organization. But you see, there is a huge difference between white supremacist groups who see violence as tool to make the world a more racist place,and those who defend against such violence.
Trump's Threats to Antifa Are an Affront to Black Agency

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Donald Trump calls them terrorists, but many Antifa see ...

There are Antifa elements participating for sure — I know some of them. But these protests are made up of much more than members of this vague collective.
It's easy for the President to target a collective like Antifa and its "whatever-it-takes" mentality as the driving force behind the riots.
Doing so absolves him of having to deal with the real problem, which is that ordinary people are fed up with African-Americans being treated like second-class citizens and they expect the state to do something about it.

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you should worry about the actions of those who made US cities hotspots of crims,

I see what you mean,




An idea came to my mind: let's face the facts,racial segregation is a good thing. 25 years after apartheid, black people cannot live and work in Orania, South Africa. Not a single brick has been laid by a black worker. Guess what, the racist town is booming, the growth shows no signs of slowing. Orania has very little crime, if any.
This clearly shows the superiority of the White race. For this reason, COVID-19: Investing in black lives and livelihoods - McKinsey is a a waste of time, send them to Liberia.
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Edit,

"The glorification of one race and the consequent debasement of another—or others—always has been and always will be a recipe for murder. There is no way around this. If one is permitted to treat any group of people with special disfavor because of their race or the color of their skin, there is no limit to what one will force them to endure, and, since the entire race has been mysteriously indicted, no reason not to attempt to destroy it root and branch".

James Baldwin, The Fire next Time

[B. W.]

Looters steal and kill a puppy from a rescue center:

https://michaelsavage.com/rioters-st...it-live-on-tv/

[Vanoi]

https://wpde.com/news/nation-world/t...-any-president

“I’ve done more for Black Americans, in fact, than any President in U.S. history, with the possible exception of another Republican President, the late, great, Abraham Lincoln and it’s not even close.”

I gotta found out where Trump buys his drugs cause that has to be some good .

[Common Soldier]

Minnesota has voted for Democrats for president since 1976. This is what I said, a few days ago.
#184

I think we can agree that the issues are beyond the politics of one party or one man. By concentrating on one man, Trump, we are not going to address the problem. And while Trump sure as hell didn't help the issue, he didn't create it either. Using the.issue as an excuse.simply to bash Trump more as you are doing is not helping.

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The relevant evidence is the fact that as the entire America erupted in protest, the Racist-in-Chief falsely blames riots on antifascists, constantly pouring gasoline on the fire,and -as someone has already pointed out- seems very close to trying to incite a civil war. The abnormal President of the US has threatened military intervention. Meanwhile, US governors condemn Trump's threat to unleash the US military to restore law and order: Riots flare in New York, Washington and LA as Trump

The entire country didn't errupt because.of anything Trump did or say, and it is just bull to claim otherwise. If Trump had kept his mouth shut and stopped twitting, the results would have been the same. The people protesting don't pay attention to what Trump says ans I don't know anyone who does. You and your ilk are usig it as excuse to bash Trump anyway you can, which is I admit like shooting fish in a barrel. But it does not help matters anymore than what Trump says.

The moron pledged to declare antifascists a terrorist organization. But you see, there is a huge difference between white supremacist groups who see violence as tool to make the world a more racist place,and those who defend against such violence.

What the Nation of Islam preaches is every bit as racist as any white supremecist group, yet I don't see you or anyone else condeming it. Those who defend against such violence only defend against it when the violence is being done by others. When it is being done by one of their own, their actions are rather muted.

I see what you mean,

I see you resort to satire rather actually dealing with the issue. Until you.and your ilk have the moral courage and honesty to even acknowledge the reality, don#t expect pogreas on issues leading up to incidents like George Floyd.


It says it all that you can't provide any rational argument to defend your views. Don't any progress in resolving the problem until people of your kind stop being bigots and start being honest. Until there is some real honesty things are not going to improve. Self righteous people like yourself never will make the changes needed because they are convinced of their own perfection.

An idea came to my mind: let's face the facts,racial segregation is a good thing. 25 years after apartheid, black people cannot live and work in Orania, South Africa. Not a single brick has been laid by a black worker. Guess what, the racist town is booming, the growth shows no signs of slowing. Orania has very little crime, if any.
This clearly show the superiority of the White race. For this reason, COVID-19: Investing in black lives and livelihoods - McKinsey is a a waste of time, send them to Liberia.

Again, resorting to sarcasm and avoiding addressing the issue doesn't make the problem away, or help make things better. Anymore than pretending there are not bad cops out there or that cops have been poorly trained in many cases, and improperly handle many situations. Do you want real improvement or do you want to pontificate on how superior you are?


Note, if the actions of some cops in Minnesota can be an indictment of cops across the country, then the violent actions of a few protesters can be an indictment of all the protesters too. By redefining the issue as one of strictly race as BLM does, it actually hurts reform and merely causes cops and others to resist other changes.

The BLM doesn't seem to care as long as black lives were not being lost, and that is wvery bit as racist as what you condemn.

[swabian]

delete, sorry

[swabian]

Note, if the actions of some cops in Minnesota can be an indictment of cops across the country, then the violent actions of a few protesters can be an indictment of all the protesters too. By redefining the issue as one of strictly race as BLM does, it actually hurts reform and merely causes cops and others to resist other changes.

The BLM doesn't seem to care as long as black lives were not being lost, and that is wvery bit as racist as what you condemn.


Apparenly,

'Stuff' like this doesn't manifest itself out of thin air. For such an obviously racist cruelty to happen, there has had to be a long story of abusive behavior that has been tolerated by the Minnesota police. Something that occurred much more often than one time. And it just so happens, that (i think) all of the officers engaged in the situation are being criminally charged. This was basically a manslaughter (if not murder), happening in broad daylight, by the police and under the protection of the police.

[Lord Thesaurian]

First, let me say up front, the killing of George Floyd by a Minneapolis policeman is a horrible crime. The officers on the scene that day should be held accountable for his murder. It is a tragedy that we have seen repeat itself too many times.

With great sympathy, I want to extend the deepest of condolences to the family and friends of George Floyd from me and the department.

Racism is real in America, and we must all do our very best to recognize it, to confront it, and to eradicate it. I've always been proud to be a member of an institution – the United States military – that embraces diversity and inclusion and prohibits hate and discrimination in all forms.

More often than not, we have led on these issues. And while we still have much to do on this front, leaders across DOD and the services take this responsibility seriously, and we are determined to make a difference.
Every member of this department has sworn an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America. I've taken this oath many times, beginning at the age of 18, when I entered West Point. The rights that are embedded in this great document begin with the First Amendment, which guarantees the five freedoms of speech, religion, press, assembly and the right to petition the government.

The United States military is sworn to defend these and all other rights, and we encourage Americans at all times to exercise them peacefully. It is these rights and freedoms that make our country so special, and it is these rights and freedoms that American service members are willing to fight and die for.

At times, however, the United States military is asked, in support of governors and law enforcement, to help maintain law and order so that other Americans can exercise their rights, free from violence against themselves or their property. That is what thousands of Guardsmen are doing today in cities across America. It is not something we seek to do, but it is our duty and we do it with the utmost skill and professionalism.

The option to use active duty forces in a law enforcement role should only be used as a matter of last resort, and only in the most urgent and dire of situations. We are not in one of those situations now. I do not support invoking the Insurrection Act.

https://www.defense.gov/Newsroom/Tra...-civil-unrest/

Let’s hope Esper won’t be compelled to put his money where his mouth is. It never ceases to amaze me that a basic affirmation of American institutions and values, seen here, is evidently beyond the reach of the very stable genius.

[B. W.]

New York city is truly a place where anything is possible. In this case, looting in the trendy district of SoHo absolutely must be done in style and to do that properly it requires a Rolls Royce:

https://michaelsavage.com/nyc-looter...ransack-store/

[mongrel]

Bollocks back at you. Race relationship went down the tube when the left perpetuate lies like Obama actively promote double standards. Nobody from the left complained when black neighborhood watchman Roderick Scott walked after gunning down an unarmed white student in the back years before Zimmerman. Apparently, Obama didn't care if the victim.was white. As fo suing Martins parents, after giving a photo of a 13 year old Martin to the Media instead of a picture showing Martin's actual age, that might be legitimate grounds for a lawsuit. It was rather bigoted on their part to deliberately mislead the public by showing an picture of an angelic years younger Martin than the older trouble maker he actually was. Martin was expelled from school, for reasons the school refuses to share (for beating someone up or stealing, perhaps, either reason being highly relevant to the Zimmerman shooing.) An unfortunate incident yes, but make.mistake, Martin is dead because he physically assaulted.Zimmerman, no other reason. If you want to blame Zimmerman following a suspected burglar as the cause, you might as well blame Martin getting himself expelled from school (perhaps for.stealing?), which is why he was in the neighborhood in the first place.

It was a tragedy, but if Martin had just ignored Zimmerman and walked home instead of assaulting Zimmerman, he would be alive.



Again politicing the issue. Military troops are not particularly trained in crowd.control, and state governorss have state miltias at their disposal to handld the issue, although they should be a last resort, police are better trained in handling these issues. No President would send in troops unless asked by the governor, and I don't see any governor asking, since that would be an admission of in competence.

Double bollocksback to you. Ordinary Black Americans aren't interested in manufactured culture wars. They just want to go about their lawful business without the risk of extra-judicial killing or lynching. I know this because that is what is on their website. It was founded in 2013 to campaign against violence and systemic racism towards black people. The issues they campaign about relate to real events which are well -known an documented. No use saying Zimmerman was not at fault or was the good guy, he was the reason why BLM was founded, so that never again would the system allow racists to get away with killing with impunity. Quite frankly your reasoning is an insult to those who have died and are yet to recieve justice.

[Ludicus]

Until you.and your ilk have the moral courage and honesty to even acknowledge the reality.. resorting to sarcasm

My reality isn't your reality. Occasionally, sarcasm is my weapon of choice against the ideological foolishness of white supremacist ideology.

The entire country didn't errupt because.of anything Trump did or say

I haven't said such a thing. What I said:"as the entire America erupted in protest, the Racist-in-Chief falsely blames riots on antifascists, constantly pouring gasoline on the fire...".
That's painfully true.

By redefining the issue as one of strictly race as BLM does, it actually hurts reform and merely causes cops and others to resist other changes.

I don't agree.It's a racial justice issue. And to make matters worse, Trump has normalized white supremacy.

Self righteous people like yourself never will make the changes needed because they are convinced of their own perfection.

Sounds a little confusing. Whatever you are trying to say, mark my words: what we are seeing today-the American revolt against racist violence and white supremacy- is one of the most extraordinary events of the US history.
This actually happens a country where only now, never before Congress Moves to Make Lynching a Federal Crime After 120 Years Of Failure

Only a few decades ago, Billie Holyday used to sing "Strange Fruit", written by Abel Meeropol- a white American Jew. The song is a hymn against the inhumanity of racism. In 1940, Meeropol was called to testify before a committee investigating communism in public schools. They wanted to know whether the American Communist Party had paid him to write the song. In 1999, Time magazine named "Strange Fruit" the "song of the century".The lyrics never mention lynching, but the metaphor is crystal clear:

"Southern trees bear a strange fruit
Blood on the leaves and blood at the root
Black bodies swinging in the southern breeze
Strange fruit hanging from the poplar trees
Pastoral scene of the gallant South
The bulging eyes and the twisted mouth
Scent of magnolia, sweet and fresh
Then the sudden smell of burning flesh
Here is a fruit for the crows to pluck
For the rain to gather, for the wind to suck
For the sun to rot, for the tree to drop
Here is a strange and bitter crop"

[mongrel]

What the Nation of Islam preaches is every bit as racist as any white supremecist group, yet I don't see you or anyone else condeming it. Those who defend against such violence only defend against it when the violence is being done by others. When it is being done by one of their own, their actions are rather muted.

The Nation of Islam runs a police force now? What complete irrelevant nonsense. Richard B Spencer is a racist and no-one uses him as an excuse for putting aside anger over police killings.

The BLM doesn't seem to care as long as black lives were not being lost, and that is wvery bit as racist as what you condemn.

What rubbish. BLM was founded to deal with structural racism in law enforcement and wider society, issues that don't affect white people generally. It's as lame as saying that someone who campaigns to eliminate testicular cancer doesn't care about other forms of cancer. Daftness.


Apparenly,[/QUOTE]

[Gaidin]

https://apnews.com/e0e783dcbb316887f4fac5a4dbe92563

Trump got his military parade. Sent them home once officials gave any pushback.

[Love Mountain]

Looting is a conscious choice of the looters and is therefore avoidable, your false dichotomy notwithstanding. The widespread failure of authorities to stop them does not substantiate the deflection that claims police brutality is a choice but looting and violence are akin to a natural disaster.

Looting is not the decision of those peacefully protesting. Poor response of authorities, is often linked to the leadership of LEO organizations and is one of the reasons the protests started in the first place. There is no false dichotomy, you're just not capable of understanding why the two are different.

None of which is relevant to the George Floyd incident. The President does not control the training or behaviour of the local police, the local, in this case Democratic politicians, do. White supremacist did not kill George Floyd, ans Trump supports the police which includes black, asian, and cops of any other ethnicity and race.

Encouraging authorities to respond harshly to protesters is directly relevant to the George Floyd incident. This is one of the reasons President Trump is subject to criticism, one among many.

Rhd person who is exhibiing racism is you.

Projection.

No, Obama sid far worse, by making a simple matter of self defense a polarizing racial issue by withholding critical facts.

Projection. You've failed to mention the fact that Zimmerman followed Trayvon Martin with a firearm beyond the limits of his own house. You've failed to mention that critical fact in every instance you've brought up this issue. You're either incapable of understanding why this is an important fact, or you're doing this on purpose because it doesn't suit your agenda. Either way, your opinion on Obama or Trump lacks any credibility.

No, Marin was shot because he physcally assaulted Zimmerman in manner that gave Simmerman a reasonable fear for his life. In Martin hadn't assaulted Zimmerman, Martin would be alive. Martin could hage just ignored Zimmerman and walked home, and Martin would still be alive today.

Again. Misrepresenting the situation.

It was not illegal for Zimmerman to follow Martin, but it was illegal for Martin to physically assUlt Zimmerman. And to try the riduculous narrative that somehow Martin was in fear for his life is nonsense. To claim Martin couldn't have outrun a middle aged overweight Zimmerman is just typical of the lies the left likes to tell.

No, Martin died because he decided to beat up someone with a gun. It is a tragedy, but one of Trayvon Martin's own making as much as anyone. Martin had a cell phone, so.if he was afraid he could and should have called 911, but he didn't, thus disproving the selfdefense angle by Martin.

It's irrelevant whether it was legal or illegal. Perfectly legal actions become important circumstantial factors and Zimmerman is culpable in allowing the situation to happen.

In the case of black watchman Roderick Scott, he knew full well he was going into a dangerous situtation because he grapped his gun before he left the safety of his house, and he shot the white kid multiple times (unlike Zimmerman's one shot) before the kid had even touched him. Yet the left defend Rodney Scott solely because he was black, double standards. The friends wbo were with the student contradicted Scott's story. Scott could have waited in the safety of his house, but chose to kill someone instead. Oh by the way, Scott shot the white student in the back. Of.course, Obama did not make it an issue because rhe victim was white not black.

An empty accusation, and a mediocre attempt to paint double standard. The Roderick Scott case is differentiated by the fact that it happened in his neighborhood, he caught a kid rummaging through a neighbor's car, and he gave the kid a verbal warning while in a firing stance.

Not surprised that you completely failed to mention all the circumstances of the case. Can't trust you to give an unbiased account on literally any situation you bring up.

You own figure show that despite being on 13% of the population, African American commit half the murders. Blacks, especially youths like Trayvon Martin, are 4 to 5 times more likely to be murdered and vast majority by blacks themselves, and that is not issue that murder is a leading cause of death among young black males? Your actions and the facts themselves show that politics, not justice is your motivating factor and that of the BLM. Had you truly cared about lives, you would never have said itnian't an issue. Those statistics are only not an issue if you don't really care about lives.

Completely missed the point and misinterpreted statistics. Again. Statistics do not account for differences in policing for difference communities or socio-economic policies.

PS - your statitics show blacks kill almost twice as many whites as whites kill blacks. Had the ratio been reversed you and the BLM would be touting that as another proof of racism. Should we apply a consistent standard and use that as proof of black racism? Everyone knows about the violence in the African American community, ans by pretendig it doesn't exist or blaming it on cops instead of admitting the truth and taking ownership, it only sours race relationships. (The difference in the numbers of whites killed by blacks and blacks killed by whites isn't enough for a reasonable person to make an issue of it, but if you used the BLM approach you could make it an issue, which is my point.)

My statistics show that Black on Black violence is about as much of a problem as White on White violence. Something you're not capable of understanding, despite bringing up Black on Black violence. Moreover, even if the statistics were worse, BLM's point would still be relevant. The justice system can treat you unfairly regardless of what the statistics say.

[B. W.]

Bollocks.Racist bollocks at that. The only race grifting was generated by Proud Boys and Islamophobes. Race relations went to when Zimmerman walked after killing Travyon Martin and then decided to not only make money from it , but also allowed to sue his parents. It generated a sense of impunity for violent racists which is demonstrated by the recent lynching of Ahmaud Arbery. I 'd expand on that but there are more important things far more relevant the situation, see below.

Secretary of Defense Mark Esper has stated that he does not support using active duty troops to quell protests triggered He said those forces should only be used in a law enforcement role as a last resort. It sends a signal to US armed forces commanders as to where their responsibilities lie and leaves draft dodger Trump either having to choose impotence or trying to compel commanders to do his will and risk a slapping down.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/03/p...sts/index.html


He was also disgusted by the events at St John's . I wonder if that persuaded him that Trump needed to be checked. As Brendan Buck a GOP aide said 'We long ago lost sight of normal, but this was a singularly immoral act.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...esters-DC.html

BLM is a left-wing component of the DNC plantation system. If you think Zimmerman is a racist the only information you have on him is the deceptive and carefully crafted image created by the media to support the DNC's narrative.

If you want to defund the police in all these DNC run cities, go ahead and see what happens.

If all these rioters and looters think their situation is going to improve because of all their destructive activities, all I can say is that a very different reality awaits them.

[Infidel144]

I'm old enough to remember (or not quite so old as to forget) when Obama called rio... er.... I mean protesters "criminal and thugs".

edit:
re Zimmerman/Martin

Lets play a hypothetical here.
Keep the hispanic Zimmerman but replace the black Martin with a white guy. Say a skinhead.
Exact same thing happens.
Who here would still be attacking Zimmerman?