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    Quote Originally Posted by Love Mountain View Post

    Save your tears for an actual tragedy.
    To some of them police not being allowed to randomly kidnap or murder civilians at will is a tragedy.

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    Well, an armed militia shows up at a protest. Three members get shot. By, it seems, another member of the militia:
    https://abcnews.go.com/US/members-ar...ry?id=71990031

    And in Seattle the protest Capitol Hill (formerly the secessionist zone known as CHAZ (supported by local politicians until the Chazites started targeting the local politicians homes)) has been declared a riot:
    https://komonews.com/news/local/prot...n-capitol-hill

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infidel144 View Post
    And in Seattle the protest Capitol Hill (formerly the secessionist zone known as CHAZ (supported by local politicians until the Chazites started targeting the local politicians homes)) has been declared a riot:
    https://komonews.com/news/local/prot...n-capitol-hill
    The march to a "local politcian's" home was to Mayor Jenny Durkan of Seattle. The same Mayor that has presided over the awful response to the protests and has failed to do anything substantive. Granted, the march to her house is inappropriate in my opinion. It threatens her personal safety, also, due to Durkan's work as a U.S. Attorney, her address needs to be kept confidential due to her potential to be a target. Having said that, it is ludicrous to expect protesters to understand that. The protest at Durkan's house was peaceful, and while it would be preferable, and more civil to hold the protest in front of the Mayor's office on 4th Avenue, it is entirely understandable why there would be a protest. From allowing CHOP to happen, to her inability to rein in the police, she bears the ultimate responsibility for the way the response to protests has been carried out.

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    Remember the guy with the umbrella that was breaking windows during the protests that was stopped by the actual protesters? He turned out to be a white supremacist.
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    The white supremacists excuse is meant to blame white people for all the looting and killing done by BLM over the past weeks. The vast majority of protesters that attacked police officers, cause an officer in Chicago to commit suicide and asaulted normal people just living their lives were not white supremascists, they were not even white.

    BLM need to be held accountable for the evil it has caused. Shifting the blame will only ensure a repeat of the recent horrors.
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    Thank God Trump is sending in the national guard to end all these white supremacists riots.

    The great thing about the mudpit is you can go back 30 or so pages and just flip through everything to watch the narrative change in real time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Settra View Post
    The white supremacists excuse is meant to blame white people for all the looting and killing done by BLM over the past weeks. The vast majority of protesters that attacked police officers, cause an officer in Chicago to commit suicide and asaulted normal people just living their lives were not white supremascists, they were not even white.

    BLM need to be held accountable for the evil it has caused. Shifting the blame will only ensure a repeat of the recent horrors.
    Its no excuse. The guy was identified to be a member of a white supremacist gang breaking windows of a store in a nonchalant manner to make the protests appear violent. If you can't acknowledge that then you're merely trying to project your own excuses for violent cops and outdated white supremacists.


    Quote Originally Posted by Pontifex Maximus View Post
    Thank God Trump is sending in the national guard to end all these white supremacists riots.
    The great thing about the mudpit is you can go back 30 or so pages and just flip through everything to watch the narrative change in real time.
    Why don't you tell us how the narrative changed? Just make sure you use what people actually argued instead of what you wish they argued.
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    That actually sounds like fun, let's start with this:


    Quote Originally Posted by PointOfViewGun View Post
    Except Mayor Reeves have been saying his mind as demonstrated. You're merely trying to frame the discussion around him specifically to create a safe zone for yourself. Quite clearly, there have been widespread objection to Colston's heritage and many have been taking steps to do something about it. Point out wonder in why you're defending such a case doesn't really create a problem for me.
    Can you explain why the white supreeeemacists that were clearly part of this violent riot would want to tear down "problematic" statues of white supremacy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PointOfViewGun View Post
    Its no excuse. The guy was identified to be a member of a white supremacist gang breaking windows of a store in a nonchalant manner to make the protests appear violent. If you can't acknowledge that then you're merely trying to project your own excuses for violent cops and outdated white supremacists.
    That the protests were used other groups as an excuse or cover is self-evident. Plenty of mobsters and career burglars struck it big thanks tho the protesters. The problem is the abnormal amount of focus being placed on this white supremacist narrative and that slowly will be more "white supremacist" identifications and slowly the entire blame for the event will blamed on them, while the saintly BLM Marxists will be as clean as a baby angel's buttocks.

    The "white supremacists" participated in tearing down confederate and "white supremacy" statues. That does not make much sense even if the supposed "white supremacists" were undercover. It's like asking a neo-nazi to set fire to destroy his iron cross knockoff medal. It just does not happen.


    Anyway at least Trump finally decided to do the right thing and sent in boots on the ground to pacify the situation. A couple of weeks to late but this decision is a true blessing for the beleaguered american nation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pontifex Maximus View Post
    That actually sounds like fun, let's start with this:
    Can you explain why the white supreeeemacists that were clearly part of this violent riot would want to tear down "problematic" statues of white supremacy?
    What? This is quite low quality argumentation that doesn't really make sense. Multiple issues can co-exist. You are aware of that, right? Is this seriously how you wanna create some kind of bogus narrative change? Boy you're hanging on threads there.


    Quote Originally Posted by Settra View Post
    That the protests were used other groups as an excuse or cover is self-evident. Plenty of mobsters and career burglars struck it big thanks tho the protesters. The problem is the abnormal amount of focus being placed on this white supremacist narrative and that slowly will be more "white supremacist" identifications and slowly the entire blame for the event will blamed on them, while the saintly BLM Marxists will be as clean as a baby angel's buttocks.

    The "white supremacists" participated in tearing down confederate and "white supremacy" statues. That does not make much sense even if the supposed "white supremacists" were undercover. It's like asking a neo-nazi to set fire to destroy his iron cross knockoff medal. It just does not happen.

    Anyway at least Trump finally decided to do the right thing and sent in boots on the ground to pacify the situation. A couple of weeks to late but this decision is a true blessing for the beleaguered american nation.
    What abnormal amount of focus? Perhaps you should focus on what people actually argue instead of what you wish they argued as well. Nobody talked about white supremacist going under cover to demolish statues. You're all over the place. Now. Please pay more attention to what you're discussing.
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    That's not an answer lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pontifex Maximus View Post
    That's not an answer lol.
    Precisely, since you attempt at showcasing a change in narrative didn't make any sense. I'm not sure what you even wanted an answer to since no one connected people toppling statues with a white supremacist acting as a saboteur in a peaceful protest. I did ask you to use what people actually argued, didn't I?
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    I haven't seen a blue screen appear that quickly since my OS was windows 98.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pontifex Maximus View Post
    I haven't seen a blue screen appear that quickly since my OS was windows 98.
    Sigh... Appeal to ridicule fallacy won't do you any good. You made a claim. You should have been able to back it up properly. Not with this drivel. Please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PointOfViewGun View Post
    What abnormal amount of focus? Perhaps you should focus on what people actually argue instead of what you wish they argued as well. Nobody talked about white supremacist going under cover to demolish statues. You're all over the place. Now. Please pay more attention to what you're discussing.
    Dodge skill 100. You've just posted an article that blames white supremacists for starting the riots and shows supposed white supremacists demolishing things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Settra View Post
    Dodge skill 100. You've just posted an article that blames white supremacists for starting the riots and shows supposed white supremacists demolishing things.
    How dare you try to discredit the language of the unheard? Check your privilege sir. Check it super hard. You’re only focusing on the white supremacist riots because you don’t care about Black Lives (Peace Be Upon Them).
    White People Are Doing White People Things During the Fed Up-Rising Riots

    On Sunday, CBS reported that Minneapolis Mayor Melvin Carter was forced to correct an earlier statement that all arrested protesters had been from out of state.

    Still, the stats on rioters in Minneapolis are fueling theories that far-right extremists may be driving much of the current protest violence in order to launch the so-called race war, or that police officers themselves may be causing the chaos on the streets to justify going HAM.

    https://www.theroot.com/white-people...e-f-1843800965
    Chief Smith says the city of Richmond received a flyer inciting fear and intimidation calling for a repeat of Saturday night’s riots, which lead to an increased police presence ahead of time.

    On Sunday Richmond Mayor Levar Stoney told reporters that white supremacists were the “leading force” behind the violence.

    https://www.wsls.com/news/virginia/2...-lives-matter/
    Three men with ties to the U.S. military and alleged to be members of an extreme white supremacist group face multiple terrorism conspiracy charges of planning to wreak havoc at protests in Las Vegas over George Floyd’s death.

    Federal prosecutors say the men belong to the far-right “Boogaloo” movement and not the American militant anti-fascist movement Antifa, which President Donald Trump continues to blame most for stoking violence around the country.

    https://www.ajc.com/news/with-ties-w...apgVZihVtNWeI/
    The protests that have torn through the United States, following the murder of George Floyd at the hands of Minnesota police officers, shift the emphasis in real time videos broadcast nationally. The images challenge our beliefs about who is really protesting and for what reason.

    Minneapolis

    Minnesota Governor Tim Walz echoed this sentiment in a press conference on Saturday alleging that the demonstrations that caused so much damage included provocateurs, likely from outside the area. State officials said around 80 percent of those arrested in the Twin Cities on Friday were from outside Minnesota. Former FBI agent and CNN commentator, Josh Campbell wrote, that Minnesota “authorities have been monitoring alleged criminals online, including postings by suspected white supremacists trying to incite violence.”

    https://www.justsecurity.org/70497/f...-supremacists/
    I for one am sick and tired of these white supremacist mayors sympathizing with these racist white gangs of rioters. When will anti-racist federal authorities finally act, and, I dunno, dispatch federal agents or something? And what is it with the white supremacist focus on these white supremacist false flag riots anyway? Is your white privilege blinding you to the unheard language of the white supremacist rioters? Sit down and think about that until it makes sense. Purge your mind of white supremacist rational thought. Our white supremacist world must be destroyed with fire and blood to make way for the coming Workers’ Paradise. And peacefulness. Don’t forget to say the word “peaceful” now and again to make sure everyone knows you’re a good guy and therefore immune to scrutiny.
    Of these facts there cannot be any shadow of doubt: for instance, that civil society was renovated in every part by Christian institutions; that in the strength of that renewal the human race was lifted up to better things-nay, that it was brought back from death to life, and to so excellent a life that nothing more perfect had been known before, or will come to be known in the ages that have yet to be. - Pope Leo XIII

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    Quote Originally Posted by Settra View Post
    Dodge skill 100. You've just posted an article that blames white supremacists for starting the riots and shows supposed white supremacists demolishing things.
    I posted an article on a police investigation that found a white supremacist breaking windows of a store in cover during a peaceful protest. Nothing in the article did it suggest that the guy started the riots. You make stuff up and somehow I'm the one dodging. Lovely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PointOfViewGun View Post
    Precisely, since you attempt at showcasing a change in narrative didn't make any sense. I'm not sure what you even wanted an answer to since no one connected people toppling statues with a white supremacist acting as a saboteur in a peaceful protest. I did ask you to use what people actually argued, didn't I?
    I'll phrase it this way. There's a focus on the guy giving protesters a bait, but nobody blames them for taking it. As if being a part of a mob absolves them for responsibility for their actions...

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    That is a reasonable stance but the media is saying otherwise. See Legio's links.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sar1n View Post
    I'll phrase it this way. There's a focus on the guy giving protesters a bait, but nobody blames them for taking it. As if being a part of a mob absolves them for responsibility for their actions...
    The article doesn't talk about any baiting, let alone a focus on it, nor there is any talk of protesters taking this non-existing bait. In fact, it involved the protesters stopping the guy from breaking more windows.


    Quote Originally Posted by Settra View Post
    That is a reasonable stance but the media is saying otherwise. See Legio's links.
    Yes, he found some random pieces from random websites. The internet is full of left/right wing leaning websites making bizarre stories on any issue. They're not THE media.
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