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    It's always a good idea to put up statues of child murderers
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    Jen Reid.
    Who?
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    It's always a good idea to put up statues of child murderers
    Which child did Jen Reid kill?
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    A statue of a Black Lives Matter protester erected today on the plinth where the slave trader Edward Colston once stood will be taken down, the mayor of Bristol said.

    Marvin Rees described the new statue of a black woman making the black power salute as the “work and decision of a London-based artist” who did not have the permission or support of the people of the city.
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/b...inth-63zsb0c6z
    Seems like a lot of effort just to vandalize a public space for a publicity stunt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PointOfViewGun View Post
    Which child did Jen Reid kill?
    She didn't, but if you make defending slave trading mass murderers the hill you want to die on, then truth isn't quite so important...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legio_Italica View Post
    Seems like a lot of effort just to vandalize a public space for a publicity stunt.
    Putting up a new statue is vandalism? Whats being destroyed or damaged here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PointOfViewGun View Post
    Are you assuming the statue was taken down by the BLM protesters or you have some knowledge about the case that we don't have?
    The BLM protesters did damage statues that memoealized black Civil War soldiers in Boston, and it has been thr BLM groupnthat has been gong around damaging and knocking down statues, not other groups. So they are most culprits, since they clearly started the orgy of attacking statues. Either directpy or indirectly, they are responsible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PointOfViewGun View Post
    This is embarrassing... Those percentages are not meant to be added together. They're representation of unarmed individuals in their sub-groups. 14.8% of black people shot by cops were unarmed. 9.4% of white people shot by cops were unarmed. 5.8% of Latinos shot by cops were unarmed. They are percentages from each ethnic group of people that were shot death by a cop. There is no typo...




    So, me pointing out that the Wall Street Journal calls the use of the term "unarmed" by the Washington Post too broad because they included cases where the suspect was actually armed to have no logic? Not much I can say against that. With such standards there is really no point in discussing this issue with you.

    Many.of those unarmed were not "unarmed" due to a lack of effort. African Americans accont for around 50% of the murders in the US ans a majority of robberies, so they are much more likely to get in situaions where they are ger in confrontation wirh the police. George Floyd was arrested foe a crime, he wasn't just pulled off the street. Thr high murder rate by blacks is matched by the high murder rates of blacks, and cities with high Africsn American populations have high murder rates, Detroit, Washington, D.C., so thr results are not due to just racial bias in the reportng. https://www.dailywire.com/news/5-sta...-aaron-bandler.

    African Americans are also more likely to kill cops, at a rate much higher than their percentage of population. https://www.newsweek.com/who-kills-p...fficers-315701

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight of Heaven View Post
    Well lets see, one person was killed by saying all lives matter. BLM movement consider that slogan a racist, white supremacist slogan. So the racial motivations seems pretty obvious on this one.
    But if nothing else, is just proves the lack of tolerance people have within this movement. Also interesting to see BLM went from killing black male teenagers, to a white woman for saying something they didn't like.

    George Floyd was killed because? we are not even sure why at this point. Police Negligence of protocol? or by following the protocol, Derek Chauvin knew the victim, and had worked with him before.... context is everything in this.
    It proves at most there is problems with police brutality, whenever this is a generalized practice, it is quite a stretch to make.
    It is an unfortunate fact that the African American community is far more violent than the US average, committing half the murders in the US, although they make up only 13% of the population. Inflaming a population already prone to violence, as the BLM does, is guaranteed to lead to violance, and one has to be very naive and ignorant to be surprised by the violence we are seeing.

    Floyd was killed because the police excercized poor judgement in their choice of restraints. But buried in the print by the media is that George Floyd had some medical issues and had been using some drugs, while not causing the death by themselves, may have contributed to his death. But that is overlooked in the discussion. George Floyd was a former athlete, and could have done some physical damage to the arresting officers if he violently resisted arrest, which the neck hold prevents. It is not just cops, security guards alao sometmes use this hold, with unfortunate results. Here is an incident where a security guard killed a man with a hold whose's daughter was suspected of shoplifting an item just worth a few dollars. Because the guard and victim were both African American, it did not make much of a splash in the national news: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2000/07/murd-j08.html.

    The Minneapolis have a record of showing bad judgement - just last year a young black Minneapolis cop was convicted of shooting and killing an unarmed white woman in her pajamas after she called in a possible assault. Although only on the joh for a couple of years, the cop already racked up a couple of complaints, the same yearly average as the cop who killed Mr. Floyd https://heavy.com/news/2017/07/moham...mali-mohammed/. Reading the open harrassment complaint againat Officer Noor and other Minneapolis cops, suspect that Minneapolis cops do not reapond well.to those that give them a hard time, and Floyd might not have been very cooperative in his arrest, so thr neck hold was a means of payback. The cops were surprised when Floyd died, they didn't think it would kill Floyd or do him serious harm.

    Because it doesn't fit the narrative that the national media ia trying to sell, the fact that black officers are just as likely to kill suspects as white ones is not mentioned https://psmag.com/social-justice/bla...black-suspects


    There might be racial motivation for the murder, but its not obviously apparent, as BLM movement, and general media would like to be so. IMO. And the proof is this kind of situations with neck immobilization on the ground are part of police protocol, and not exclusive towards black suspects.
    The media and the BLM matters are touting the Floyd incident to promote their agenda which has is not really about saving black lives. Apparently black lives only matter if they are killed by the polcie - the 2500 blacks killed by other blacks in 2016 don't matter at all, and thwt is a number easily 5 times the number of blacks killed by police https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...ta-table-3.xls


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    A follow up,
    "Black Lives Matter sociopaths are currently raiding the Facebook page of Jessica Doty Whitaker, the young mother who was murdered after saying “All Lives Matter,” celebrating her death and mocking her grieving relatives."

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...orment-family/


    https://twitter.com/de_dust2Blepe/st...ment-family%2F

    That is why all the BLM will fall on deaf ears and be ignored by those who haven't yet fallen to the propaganda, and the country will remain as polqrized as ever.
    Last edited by Common Soldier; July 15, 2020 at 07:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Soldier View Post
    The BLM protesters did damage statues that memoealized black Civil War soldiers in Boston, and it has been thr BLM groupnthat has been gong around damaging and knocking down statues, not other groups. So they are most culprits, since they clearly started the orgy of attacking statues. Either directpy or indirectly, they are responsible.

    https://www.wbur.org/artery/2020/06/...orials-damaged
    So, you're assuming they did it. OK. Let me know when you actually have some substance on it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Common Soldier View Post
    Many.of those unarmed were not "unarmed" due to a lack of effort. African Americans accont for around 50% of the murders in the US ans a majority of robberies, so they are much more likely to get in situaions where they are ger in confrontation wirh the police. George Floyd was arrested foe a crime, he wasn't just pulled off the street. Thr high murder rate by blacks is matched by the high murder rates of blacks, and cities with high Africsn American populations have high murder rates, Detroit, Washington, D.C., so thr results are not due to just racial bias in the reportng. https://www.dailywire.com/news/5-sta...-aaron-bandler.

    African Americans are also more likely to kill cops, at a rate much higher than their percentage of population. https://www.newsweek.com/who-kills-p...fficers-315701
    George Floyd was choked to death for the alleged crime of using a counterfeit $20 bill. The fact that you try to present him as if the cops were trying to detain a bloody criminal is digusting.
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    A $3-million dollar restoration project for the sculpture dedicated to the African American soldiers who fought in the Civil War was granted clearance just last week. The outbreak of the coronavirus had delayed the project.

    The conservator's recent prep work protected the front of the bronze relief with plywood, but its granite backside was vandalized with four-letter words and phrases including “Black Lives Matter,” “No Justice, No Peace,” and “Police are Pigs.”

    “This monument is considered one of the nation's greatest pieces of public art and the greatest piece to come out of the Civil War,” said Liz Vizza, executive director of the Friends of the Public Garden, “It was, amazingly enough, dedicated 123 years ago on May 31st – the day it was defaced.”

    https://www.wbur.org/artery/2020/06/...orials-damaged
    Old news. No assumption needed. Helps to read the article though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PointOfViewGun View Post
    Which child did Jen Reid kill?
    Jen reid personally, none as far as I know of. BLM in the past 2 months, about 100 or more. 7 kids got killed by BLM just last week, including a girl talked about in the video. Putting up statues to glorify BLM is no better than putting up statues of slavers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Settra View Post
    Jen reid personally, none as far as I know of. BLM in the past 2 months, about 100 or more. 7 kids got killed by BLM just last week, including a girl talked about in the video. Putting up statues to glorify BLM is no better than putting up statues of slavers.
    So you have a citation for that claim BLM has murdered over 100 children in the last two months? Actual evidence every single murder was committed by a BLM member.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Settra View Post
    Jen reid personally, none as far as I know of. BLM in the past 2 months, about 100 or more. 7 kids got killed by BLM just last week, including a girl talked about in the video. Putting up statues to glorify BLM is no better than putting up statues of slavers.
    When you made such a post and the one before and lied like there is no tomorrow what do you expect to accomplish? You're basically validating BLM movement with your senseless opposition.
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    Child murder is senseless opposition? Dude. They're literally putting up barricades at shooting at passing cars. BLM is behaving exactly like the 1950s chinese great leap squads.

    Here's what actual black americans have to say about BLM
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    You gonna prove that claim Settra?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Settra View Post
    Child murder is senseless opposition? Dude. They're literally putting up barricades at shooting at passing cars. BLM is behaving exactly like the 1950s chinese great leap squads.

    Here's what actual black americans have to say about BLM
    Lying about child murder is senseless opposition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PointOfViewGun View Post
    So, you're assuming they did it. OK. Let me know when you actually have some substance on it.
    In the case of the Boston statues, there is little doubt of the BLM responsibility, the BLM graffiti kind of gives it away.


    Regardless of thr BLM members actually doing it or not, they are reaponsible, by setting precedences. If it is ok for them to damage statues they personally don't like, then it is just ok for others ro do.the same for statues that represent things they don't like, like statues of Martin Luther King, JR. BLM set the actions in motion, they set the standard of behaviour.



    George Floyd was choked to death for the alleged crime of using a counterfeit $20 bill. The fact that you try to present him as if the cops were trying to detain a bloody criminal is digusting.

    Counterfeiting is a serious crime in the US, and Mr. Floyd did have a criminal record, including a conviction for agrravated theft. The police when running his license plates through the system very might pull up that fact. That might have been a factor in the police response, but arresting Floyd does seem excessive, as does the neck hold. But Floyd was a big guy who went to the gym, and he could potentially have.injured the offices even while handcuffed, hings like head butting. Did he deserge to die? Of course not. Did the officers show poor judgement? Almost certainly. Were they negligent and callous? Likely, but that does remain to be seen and a matter of thr trial, not biased media reporting.


    What is disgusting is vandalizing a woman's memorial site by BLM members, that is truly disgusting and inexcusable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Settra View Post
    Child murder is senseless opposition? Dude. They're literally putting up barricades at shooting at passing cars. BLM is behaving exactly like the 1950s chinese great leap squads.

    Here's what actual black americans have to say about BLM
    BLM is a political brand acting as the face of what is otherwise a nebulous and directionless protest movement. It isn't possible for them to be held legally accountable for the actions of their unofficial advocates/activists. Their decision to have no popularly identifiable leadership (in the traditional sense) forms part of a conscious strategy to protect the organization from scrutiny.

    What we can say for sure is that violence follows these protesters around like a bad stench, whether it's retired cops being murdered by looters, militants gunning down teenagers, children being killed at barricades, the ambushing of police, or skyrocketting intercity murder rates. That, of course, is before we get into the spread of C19 (which I'm told discriminates politically), the ruination of businesses unfortunate enough to be in the path of the storm (Mineapolis alone asked the federal govt. for half a billion to cover the costs of rioting), or the public unmasking of anti-white, anti-western rhetoric within US institutions.

    And at every stage there's always a Marxist cheering and a liberal rationalizing.
    Last edited by Cope; July 16, 2020 at 05:37 PM.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Cope View Post
    And at every stage there's always a Marxist cheering and a liberal rationalizing.
    Sounds like the only solution is right-wing jackboots on the streets to maintain law and order* against the non-right hordes. Don't worry, beau, I got you



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