New version ?

**Segrek** · May 23, 2020, 05:25 PM

BC is over or new version coming like 3.0 ?

**Morrowgan** · May 24, 2020, 05:11 AM

Development of BC has ceased.

**Jurand of Cracow** · May 24, 2020, 06:43 AM

Buff and Shine is the 3.0 in my eyes. it should be name as such. I hope WE will finish it.

**Segrek** · October 19, 2020, 03:16 AM

1- more than 32 factions impossible ?
2- rebellion settlements start as a new faction impossible (like rome 2/ attila tw) ?

Maybe game and mod can be forward with these innovations

**siadhail** · October 24, 2020, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by Jurand of Cracow

Buff and Shine is the 3.0 in my eyes. it should be name as such. I hope WE will finish it.

This. BC 2.4.2 is unplayable late campaign because the Mongols are broken (they spawn endless armies and conquer everything. The only way to win is to ally with them, keep perfect relations if possible, race to conquer territories they need to win, and conquer everything you need as well.)

Buff and Shine basically resolves that issue. The submod itself needs to be buffed and shined (sorry, I couldn't resist), but it's the best way to play the latest version of Broken Crescent if you don't want the unending Mongol Horde of Doom.

I'm glad to see enthusiasm for finishing Medieval II mods. It's still more or less the best Total War to mod, imo.

**Segrek** · November 06, 2020, 04:28 AM

buff and shine tested but there are a problem
Anatolian Seljuks are more powerful than Kingdom Jeruselam and Roman Empire
but there are a mistake. those are weakness
Ayyubids better than Anatolian Seljuks. so Seljuks saved their power like 150 years against Ayyubid threats. they didnt fight with christian factions only Miryakefalon war with Roman Empire (big wars like Manzikert). whenever i play with Seljuks; Ayyubid war front far away from my military action area. that must fix. Ayyubids, Zengids and Seljuks must fight for Edessa, Malatya, Antioch and war reason of AHLAT !

**Antiokhos Euergetes** · January 10, 2021, 02:57 AM

The Mongol armies did sack and conquerd everything pretty much apart from Fatamids, Hungary and Poland and few others lucky enough to be far away or vassals.

Admittedly by Timur they were mostly Turkic rather than pure Mongol armies but not too many people got away with it. If you're lucky like Baghdad you get sacked repeatedly.

**k/t** · January 17, 2021, 05:41 PM

That doesn't make for fun gameplay. And they were not invincible.

**Antiokhos Euergetes** · January 29, 2021, 10:12 AM

They. The Mongol armies were not invincible no, but seemed it to many who tried. Including Turks who had beaten most armies themselves till now.
Game feels tired after recent releases of TGC and Tsardoms although not complete they have given a breath of fresh air to kingdoms... Scripts, buildings, units etc amazing. I hope Bc torch is picked up again soon

**KingTutEgy** · March 02, 2021, 04:05 AM

Broken Crescent is what got me into MTW2 and it is the reason I still have MTW2 installed. I am hoping for a revival of the mod.

**Antiokhos Euergetes** · May 07, 2021, 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by KingTutEgy

Broken Crescent is what got me into MTW2 and it is the reason I still have MTW2 installed. I am hoping for a revival of the mod.

Absolutely would love to see a BC revamp

**Neutro** · May 09, 2021, 05:58 PM

it's sad every time the mod creators don't at least make an official statement in a pinned thread about the discontinuation of a project

**Jurand of Cracow** · May 10, 2021, 12:48 AM

Originally Posted by Neutro

it's sad every time the mod creators don't at least make an official statement in a pinned thread about the discontinuation of a project

Discontinuation is not a planned process, it's just an accident of people losing the joy of modding. I think it happens very rarely that one moder is able to hand over the button to another one. This requires a very self-aware moder either to cater for a successor, or just a moder modest enough to allow somebody to take over. Very difficult given the oversized ego of the moders (as Gigantus once described in an interview).
We are really lucky that the EBII project hasn't floundered despite the disappearance of Foot years ago. Even with the vast community the project stalled at that time, if I'm not mistaken.
I think the SSHIP stands out in this respect - Fair Prince handed over the lead to Lifthrasir, and last year Lifth handed it to me. I'd like to do the same in the future, once I'd run out of energy to do something with the mod.
JoC