View Poll Results: Who would you vote for in the 2020 US Presidential elections?

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  • Donald Trump - Mike Pence (Republicans)

    34 43.59%
  • Joe Biden - Kamala Harris (Democrats)

    37 47.44%
  • Jo Jorgensen - Spike Cohen (Libertarians)

    4 5.13%
  • Howie Hawkins - Angela Walker (Greens)

    0 0%
  • Other (please, specify)

    3 3.85%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sar1n View Post
    You got a number of rioters to compare?
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    Not to be outdone by Brazil, Americans are altruistically offering themselves as test cases for the rest of the world to see exactly what happens when the COVID is left to run rampant. You’re welcome.
    Well the Swedes have you guys beat there, but in reality most Swedes just stayed home and i hazard a guess most Americans will still self isolate which will in turn kill the economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PointOfViewGun View Post
    Job creation did not happen due to such senseless deregulation. Job creation was going on under Obama with these regulations already in place. In fact, average numbers were better. There is little job creation under Trump that can be attributed to Trump's policies. Having a regulation to force oil and gas companies to monitor methane leaks is not a feel good but meaningless bull crap. It's idiotic to suggest that it is.
    Exactly. Deregulation isn't something done to stimulate the economy. Rather it is something done so corporations can get even richer at the expense of the nation as a whole.

    Working class Republicans have been lied to for decades that these same regulations are harming them, and that if we cut regulations and allow corporations to do whatever they want it will somehow help them. Maybe when they have no health insurance for themselves and their kids, when they have no jobs, when the air they breathe is toxic with emissions, when the water they drink is filled with effluent, when the stores hike prices and make basic foodstuffs unaffordable, when they are kicked out onto the streets because a corporation wants to build on their land, maybe then those who cling to Trump as their savior and think corporations shouldn't be regulated will realize they have been used. But more likely he will tell them it's all Hillary and Obama's fault and that will be that.

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    It depends what you mean by deregulating. Less bureaucracy, does indeed stimulate growth. That doesn't mean regulation, or rules shouldn't exist.

    But i believe there is a good case into making things simple for people creating wealth. Specially for small, and middle sized business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight of Heaven View Post
    It depends what you mean by deregulating. Less bureaucracy, does indeed stimulate growth. That doesn't mean regulation, or rules shouldn't exist.
    But i believe there is a good case into making things simple for people creating wealth. Specially for small, and middle sized business.
    We're talking about things like removing independent safety checks on offshore drilling wells that were introduced after the BP disaster. We're talking about easing carbon emission limits on new (emphasis on new) coal plants that they could achieve if they utilized carbon capture and storage technologies. We're talking about removing the requirement for oil and gas companies to monitor and fix methane leaks from their wells. So on and on.
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    Regulation isn’t a good or bad thing, it is almost entirely contextual. Take the case of british commercial airlines, compared to poor regulation that allowed the BP oil disaster to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by B. W. View Post
    He is the supposed Democratic nominee for President, but everyone knows his VP pick will succeed him shortly after he takes office. Biden is hoping he can get elected and then retire for medical reasons versus dying in office. That is the reason he has studiously avoided picking Hillary for VP.
    Oh yeah, I remember him now. He worked in the Obama cabinet, right?

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    That's a lot of COVID-19 patients in the coming weeks.
    All Part of the people's ((republic)) of chinas grand strategy.

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    That can't be right... How many people does Oklahoma even have?!
    Honestly my first reaction but we must remember that the God Emperor draws crowds.

    Quote Originally Posted by PointOfViewGun View Post
    We're talking about things like removing independent safety checks on offshore drilling wells that were introduced after the BP disaster.
    We wouldn't be talking about the BP oil spill (which was an Obama era disaster) if those regulations worked now, would we?

    We're talking about easing carbon emission limits on new (emphasis on new) coal plants that they could achieve if they utilized carbon capture and storage technologies. We're talking about removing the requirement for oil and gas companies to monitor and fix methane leaks from their wells. So on and on.
    Also known as muh global warming hoax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pontifex Maximus View Post
    We wouldn't be talking about the BP oil spill (which was an Obama era disaster) if those regulations worked now, would we?
    We wouldn't talk about a disaster if the regulations that were introduced after the disaster took place worked? Interesting use of time there.

    Also, I love how you try to attribute a disaster that happened within second year of Obama's first term to him as if it happened because of his conduct. If anyone pointed out a failure under Trump's presidency that was a direct consequence of his actions you'd be crying "muh orange man bad" attempts to ridicule. You clearly don't realize that by attributing the disaster to Obama like that in response to Trump rolling back measures taken by Obama presidency to avoid any future disaster you're digging a hole for Trump as well.


    Quote Originally Posted by Pontifex Maximus View Post
    Also known as muh global warming hoax.
    You don't need global warming to want those regulations. Throwing such ignorant jabs doesn't put merit in your position.
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    So Trump is to blame for the BP oil spill because by year two of Obama's presidency he hadn't gotten around to regulating the oil industry enough. Got it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pontifex Maximus View Post
    So Trump is to blame for the BP oil spill because by year two of Obama's presidency he hadn't gotten around to regulating the oil industry enough. Got it.
    That's one way to dance around what I said, sure. I understand too why you need to do that since you made a stupid argument about Obama regulations coming after the spill not being able to prevent the spill. It would be easier to acknowledge its failure though.
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    Facebook has removed a campaign ad for President Trump today on the grounds that it contained a Nazi-era symbol.

    See https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elect...n=true#image=1

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    The inverted red triangle seen in the center above was indeed used to denote Socialists, Communists, and other political prisoners incarcerated in Dachau concentration camp and later in other camps as well.

    Cf. https://military.wikia.org/wiki/Nazi...on_camp_badges

    Some may proffer the argument that this may be nothing more than an oblivious copy and paste of an image from some random alt-right website and that its true import was unknown. But it is difficult to excuse this as inadvertent or the result of ignorance. This is awful.

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    Oh, great--now we have the geometry police. What are we going to do with these 10's of thousands of yield signs all across the country?

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    Same energy

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    So, Trump couldn’t get the pretextual film-flam for DACA right and Roberts threw it back in his face with every Justice concurring at least somewhat no matter the dissent they write.

    That added making or breaking a new route to citizenship to the campaign just because Homeland Security couldn’t break glass properly.
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    Has anyone seen Biden lately? Word is, he's been doing debate prep in his basement for the last three months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B. W. View Post
    Has anyone seen Biden lately? Word is, he's been doing debate prep in his basement for the last three months.
    Well you haven’t kept up with local news for the last day.
    Last edited by Gaidin; June 18, 2020 at 08:44 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidin View Post
    Well you haven’t kept up with local news for the last day.
    Been painting my house. I did kill a 6 foot rattler yesterday, but only because he was bothering my dog. Other than that, things have been boring. When I was in the army, one guy had a sign above his cot that said "war is hell", but I have to say, this quarantine thing is starting to get on my nerves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B. W. View Post
    Been painting my house. I did kill a 6 foot rattler yesterday, but only because he was bothering my dog. Other than that, things have been boring. When I was in the army, one guy had a sign above his cot that said "war is hell", but I have to say, this quarantine thing is starting to get on my nerves.
    And your google-fu is so bad you have to troll here? Ok.

    Don't get me wrong. Asking is one thing. I'd be happy to answer a question. But you come here and troll about a candidate doing debate prep in his basement about debates not happening for a few months yet.

    Well. Have fun thinking Biden did nothing. Or. Fix your google-fu.
    Last edited by Gaidin; June 18, 2020 at 08:45 PM.
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    What is it with Anglo Americans and their obsession over "foreign enemies" subverting their sacred democracy? They really have the most fragile of political and social systems.



    It's either Russia or China or Venezuela "hacking" the election like americans have no self determination of their own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pontifex Maximus View Post
    Oh yeah, I remember him now. He worked in the Obama cabinet, right?
    Yeah, that's the guy. I seem to remember him saying that Obama was, " a clean black guy, well spoken and even had creases in his pants". Or was he the one that said he had a tinkling up his leg when Obama spoke?

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    I am not form USA but even I know Biden is 'owned' by the CCP -whom have paid Biden & his family millions over the years. If Biden wins the election CCP will invade Taiwan & Biden will turn a blind eye. I actually hope Trump wins again. Otherwise CCP will do as they please & we are all screwed!!!

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