View Poll Results: Who would you vote for in the 2020 US Presidential elections?

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  • Donald Trump - Mike Pence (Republicans)

    34 43.59%
  • Joe Biden - Kamala Harris (Democrats)

    37 47.44%
  • Jo Jorgensen - Spike Cohen (Libertarians)

    4 5.13%
  • Howie Hawkins - Angela Walker (Greens)

    0 0%
  • Other (please, specify)

    3 3.85%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidin View Post
    The last 12 elections all have states down to razor thin margins. By your standard we can’t seem to pull a strong candidate from your own ass. Show us how it’s done.
    What I mean Gaidin is that "having a state down to razor thin margin" is not what makes a candidate a poor one.
    Being at approval rating of 44% = poor candidate.
    Biden also won THESE elections by tiny margins. But his approval rating is +10 over Trump. He's not unpopular, he's just not that popular. Trump was unpopular.

    Also, you say "last 12 elections had states down to razor thin margins". True, but in 9 out of those 12 elections the razor thin margins were not the ones deciding the presidency.
    See here.


    Even if Clinton in 1996 lost all the "close enough" states of AZ, KY, NV and TN, he would still walk away with 348 electors.
    If Obama in 2012 lost all the close enough states of FL, OH, VA, he would still have 272 electors.
    And those are states that are within 5%, not within 1%.


    Obama and Clinton were not weak candidates. Trump was. Crazy Nancy is reaching to explain why they got their butts kicked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alhoon View Post
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    STRAWMAN AND RED HERRING.

    I told you to get used to seeing thin margins in US presidential races. I also said you're going to see even thinner margins if you ever go through the process of looking at local elections. That's where law calling for recount when a race comes within 0.5% meaning the race will definitively be within a few hundred votes in the county or district means a recount can actually change stuff. 0.5% statewide doesn't do much. 0.5% county or district wide can cause a mess.

    You want to call a close election a bad candidate, and I tell you history points to the fact that this consistently happens, everywhere. Why? Not necessarily because they're a bad candidate. They're pulling in the votes to be near winning the race. We can debate all god damn day on whether Trump is a good or bad official. But if he's able to come this god damn close to winning a second term, he's the definition of a good candidate. And so is Biden. And so is any close race, two good candidates in a race attracting this many voters that may have ended up as close as this. You will find plenty of House races yet to be called. Nevermind local elections.

    And then you try to point one direction while I'm talking about something in another, you can just sit there in your wrongness and be god damn wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legio_Italica View Post
    100% agree with his sentiment. Good to see a vote of confidence from our European friends. Let’s hope the confidence in Biden isn’t misplaced.
    Ah, allies, is all that matters. Allies vs. enemies.
    Yes, but much more than than that, Biden's confidence in the UN, the Paris Accord and the Iran deal is certainly not misplaced. But first, take care of your own country, and forget for a moment the Sparta fetish, a cultural cancer firmly implanted in a cultural warrior society.

    Yesterday,in his acceptance speech, Biden rightly called atention to "The battle to achieve racial justice and root out systemic racism in this country" (sic) ;"to secure your family’s health care"; and the battle "to save the climate".
    Last year Biden said "White folks are the reason we have institutional racism",and he added that that in his administration, it would "not be tolerated".
    I quote Kamala, in her acceptance speech: "because now is when the real work begins...to root out systemic racism in our justice system and society"

    In fact, Trump emboldened the white supremacists in America, and they are not few. They are recruting, they are rallying, they will grow even more. Racism is all Trump has left.
    Think about this-Trump never cared to unite America, and Trump got nearly half of America to vote for him. In my opinion, there is only one way to unite America and build an inclusive society: promote the universal,free, compulsory education.To have the right to ignorance is to have the right to evil.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludicus View Post
    Ah, allies, is all that matters. Allies vs. enemies.
    Yes, but much more than than that, Biden's confidence in the UN, the Paris Accord and the Iran deal is certainly not misplaced. But first, take care of your own country, and forget for a moment the Sparta fetish, a cultural cancer firmly implanted in a cultural warrior society.
    A common allied defense has been the cornerstone of US foreign policy since the 40s. Stoltenberg understands this, as does anyone who isn’t sympathetic to the grievances of the authoritarian foes who would break us apart in order to advantage their own interests.
    Yesterday,in his acceptance speech, Biden rightly called atention to "The battle to achieve racial justice and root out systemic racism in this country" (sic) ;"to secure your family’s health care"; and the battle "to save the climate".
    Last year Biden said "White folks are the reason we have institutional racism",and he added that that in his administration, it would "not be tolerated".
    I quote Kamala, in her acceptance speech: "because now is when the real work begins...to root out systemic racism in our justice system and society"
    Yes, the Democrats have shilled for BLM and their false narrative all summer if not before. We’re all aware, as are the voters who cost them seats in the House.
    In fact, Trump emboldened the white supremacists in America, and they are not few. They are recruting, they are rallying, they will grow even more. Racism is all Trump has left.
    Think about this-Trump never cared to unite America, and Trump got nearly half of America to vote for him. In my opinion, there is only one way to unite America and build an inclusive society: promote the universal,free, compulsory education.To have the right to ignorance is to have the right to evil.
    America has free (in most places compulsory) public education through high school. Racism is discouraged at all levels of education.
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    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/07/u...president.html

    A very good read about the path to the White House for Biden.
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    Hmmm, I've read stories in the "mainstream media" the last few days describing Trump as "hunkered down in the White House", hiding behind "White House walls", etc. It turns out he was out golfing having a grand old time, taking a well deserved rest after months of hard campaigning.

    As far the election, it is far from over and now we have the revelation that the same technology that switched 1000s of Trump votes to Biden votes in Michigan is the same technology used in (wait for it) Venezuela. It is also used in Georgia where irregularities are starting to be noticed:

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog..._election.html

    Along with that there are some troubling signs for Biden. In Harry Reid's Nevada where his political machine is extremely powerful, Biden's lead is dwindling as vote fraud and irregularities continue to be discovered.

    In Arizona, where John McCain's family organization almost controls state elections, the problems for Biden are mounting. Given the fact that the McCain's are political enemies of Trump is for more indicative of how the State went "blue" this election than anything else.

    Problems with the voting continue to be discovered in the states of Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. Penn. could easily flip back to Trump and is being heavily investigated. At least one team of lawyers from Texas is going there "pro bono" to help and there are reports of other teams of lawyers going there as well.

    I recall watching the election returns late at night when suddenly all these states in question stopped counting votes. Even the newscasters were perplexed. This just doesn't happen. I wake up the next morning and find out that counting had resumed in the middle of the night (4am) and Biden suddenly got blocks of 100's of thousands of votes. Yeah, it doesn't smell right no matter what you say.

    Anyway, this could well go to the House of Reps. where Trump will win in a slam dunk.

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    You do realize absolutely none of what you just said has been substantiated, in any form, right? The claims of “irregularities” and “fraud” are only coming from diehard Trump cultists, with absolutely zero evidence to back up such claims and assertions. Yet it’s funny how they call Liberals “snowflakes”...

    Bruh, Trump was rejected by the majority of Americans and soundly defeated in the election. Biden is the President-elect and will take office in January. That is the reality and one Trumpets are going to have to accept. Pouting like petulant children just makes his supporters look even more pathetic than they currently are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by B. W. View Post
    Hmmm, I've read stories in the "mainstream media" the last few days describing Trump as "hunkered down in the White House", hiding behind "White House walls", etc. It turns out he was out golfing having a grand old time, taking a well deserved rest after months of hard campaigning.

    As far the election, it is far from over and now we have the revelation that the same technology that switched 1000s of Trump votes to Biden votes in Michigan is the same technology used in (wait for it) Venezuela. It is also used in Georgia where irregularities are starting to be noticed:

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog..._election.html

    Along with that there are some troubling signs for Biden. In Harry Reid's Nevada where his political machine is extremely powerful, Biden's lead is dwindling as vote fraud and irregularities continue to be discovered.

    In Arizona, where John McCain's family organization almost controls state elections, the problems for Biden are mounting. Given the fact that the McCain's are political enemies of Trump is for more indicative of how the State went "blue" this election than anything else.

    Problems with the voting continue to be discovered in the states of Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. Penn. could easily flip back to Trump and is being heavily investigated. At least one team of lawyers from Texas is going there "pro bono" to help and there are reports of other teams of lawyers going there as well.

    I recall watching the election returns late at night when suddenly all these states in question stopped counting votes. Even the newscasters were perplexed. This just doesn't happen. I wake up the next morning and find out that counting had resumed in the middle of the night (4am) and Biden suddenly got blocks of 100's of thousands of votes. Yeah, it doesn't smell right no matter what you say.

    Anyway, this could well go to the House of Reps. where Trump will win in a slam dunk.
    I'm going to put this as nicely as I can.

    You sound like the 9/11 nutbars.

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    He just goes on to the thedonaldwin where people are calling for civil war, read their in denial stage, all based on hearsay with no proofs whatsoever and tells them here.

    I regularly read thedonald to see just how screwed the minds of radicals can get and obviously there is no proof. Its a lot of tales and stories just like the conspiracies they base their politics on.

    They keep posting about civil war, taking up arms and rebelling, killing communists,talking about an unquestionable belief in a godlike Trump who they are sure will turn this around due to his genius prepared "plans" (it is more of a cult than a political movement after all)...the golf he mentions is a huge thread where thousands of people write things like "look at how powerful Trump is, he just goes to golf because he is a super boss not giving a ***"....

    It is unbelieveable how hundreds of thousands of people can follow such cultist behaviour at this day and age in an open society...there is not a single criticism of Trump but only attributing of god like qualities to the guy. Anyone that dares to critique is lynched.

    I am just waiting for their dissapointment in a short time. I wonder what will happen to all these cultists when their god is proven wrong and beaten badly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogukan View Post
    He just goes on to the thedonaldwin where people are calling for civil war, read their in denial stage, all based on hearsay with no proofs whatsoever and tells them here.

    I regularly read thedonald to see just how screwed the minds of radicals can get and obviously there is no proof. Its a lot of tales and stories just like the conspiracies they base their politics on.

    They keep posting about civil war, taking up arms and rebelling, killing communists,talking about an unquestionable belief in a godlike Trump who they are sure will turn this around due to his genius prepared "plans" (it is more of a cult than a political movement after all)...the golf he mentions is a huge thread where thousands of people write things like "look at how powerful Trump is, he just goes to golf because he is a super boss not giving a ***"....

    It is unbelieveable how hundreds of thousands of people can follow such cultist behaviour at this day and age in an open society...there is not a single criticism of Trump but only attributing of god like qualities to the guy. Anyone that dares to critique is lynched.

    I am just waiting for their dissapointment in a short time. I wonder what will happen to all these cultists when their god is proven wrong and beaten badly.
    Well it's not even that. Apparently they're happy to accept gaining ten or so seats in the House and keep the Senate but the Presidency is a grand conspiracy? Who the living hell do they think they're fooling? Especially BW with his vote conspiracies here? They're the same god damn ballots.

    So, what went wrong here. Which conspiracy did the EVUL DEMS forget to implement this time? This is how I know he's spewing total BS and is running in circles in the denial stage of grief.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seether View Post
    You do realize absolutely none of what you just said has been substantiated, in any form, right? The claims of “irregularities” and “fraud” are only coming from diehard Trump cultists, with absolutely zero evidence to back up such claims and assertions. Yet it’s funny how they call Liberals “snowflakes”...

    Bruh, Trump was rejected by the majority of Americans and soundly defeated in the election. Biden is the President-elect and will take office in January. That is the reality and one Trumpets are going to have to accept. Pouting like petulant children just makes his supporters look even more pathetic than they currently are.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidin View Post
    I'm going to put this as nicely as I can.

    You sound like the 9/11 nutbars.

    When the factual evidence is presented in court, maybe it won't get thrown out.
    No Proof? Seriously? You guys are just parroting the mainstream news media who want this thing over. What's their rush? They weren't in such a hurry when Gore challenged Bush for 37 days. Where is the mainstream news reporting on over 3000 criminal referrals in Nevada for vote fraud?

    Then, of course, you didn't listen to the retired 3 star general in the link in my previous post. He has a lot of connections to the intelligence community. The day before the election he named the 7 states where the fraud was going to take place and how it was going to happen. That's just a 3 star general who's engaged in a conspiracy theory, right? And he just happened to lay it out before it happened. Just co-incidence I guess.

    No evidence of voter fraud? How about signed affidavits by poll watchers? It's just weird how so many people were born on the same day in 1900 and still voting 100% Biden. You notice I said Biden and not Dem, right? That's because hundreds of thousands of those "Biden votes" didn't have a down ballot. That the reason why the Dems didn't also get the Senate and lose seats in the House. It just doesn't happen that way. Maybe with a few voters, but not hundreds of thousands.

    No evidence:

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...-during-count/
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    Quote Originally Posted by B. W. View Post
    Assuming breitbart is telling the truth and they're going to breitbart instead of.... the courts....? Why are they going to breitbart? What would people have to say under oath?

    Yea. We have 250,000 ghosts in the system in Wayne County. The same 250,000 ghosts that helped Hillary in Wayne County in 2016? With no affidavit then? Where were these poll watchers that didn't take it to court four years ago? I'm just picturing these guys frantically entering this data trying to ram up this lead. Try harder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidin View Post
    Assuming breitbart is telling the truth and they're going to breitbart instead of.... the courts....? Why are they going to breitbart? What would people have to say under oath?

    Yea. We have 250,000 ghosts in the system in Wayne County. The same 250,000 ghosts that helped Hillary in Wayne County in 2016? With no affidavit then? Where were these poll watchers that didn't take it to court four years ago? I'm just picturing these guys frantically entering this data trying to ram up this lead. Try harder.
    Huh? Here's some more on the "no evidence" theme. If you want to know what's going to happen tomorrow with the Republican lawsuit in Penn., check out the video where they interview Giuliana. The interview starts at 58:00 and runs for about 15 minutes.

    https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/do...-sunday-stream

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    You know there’s a reason people didn’t believe Giuliani with his Hunter Biden conspiracy right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by alhoon View Post
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    Trump was unpopular.


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    Obama and Clinton were not weak candidates. Trump was. Crazy Nancy is reaching to explain why they got their butts kicked.
    Bold parts: That's clearly out of touch. And that point doesn't need any debate, when it is known for everybody, that over 70 million Americans voted now for no. 45, so almost half of 100 % votes.

    And question, why do you use Orange's terminology for Pelosi? Is no. 45 your mental idol in regard of American Dem politicians?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogukan View Post
    He just goes on to the thedonaldwin where people are calling for civil war, read their in denial stage, all based on hearsay with no proofs whatsoever and tells them here.

    I regularly read thedonald to see just how screwed the minds of radicals can get and obviously there is no proof. Its a lot of tales and stories just like the conspiracies they base their politics on.

    They keep posting about civil war, taking up arms and rebelling, killing communists,talking about an unquestionable belief in a godlike Trump who they are sure will turn this around due to his genius prepared "plans" (it is more of a cult than a political movement after all)...the golf he mentions is a huge thread where thousands of people write things like "look at how powerful Trump is, he just goes to golf because he is a super boss not giving a ***"....

    It is unbelieveable how hundreds of thousands of people can follow such cultist behaviour at this day and age in an open society...there is not a single criticism of Trump but only attributing of god like qualities to the guy. Anyone that dares to critique is lynched.

    I am just waiting for their dissapointment in a short time. I wonder what will happen to all these cultists when their god is proven wrong and beaten badly.
    And for me the strangest thing is they still go on and on about Trump being a "political outsider", as if that somehow automatically makes him righteous and true.

    It's one thing to elect someone who is not a politician, and if that person had the intelligence and temperament to handle the stress of the office of President, that might have worked out fine.

    Trump is neither intelligent or stable mentally to handle much of anything, let alone being President. He's an arrogant, malignant narcissist and sociopath who puts himself first and the country never. That's why America is in such a mess.

    Trump was given one last chance to redeem himself by gracefully accepting his loss, but he has chosen to be hateful, lie and act like a child. And the longer this goes on, the worse the GOP looks.

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    The claim: Poll workers ordered to “change the date” on ballots

    McDaniel accused Detroit senior elections adviser Chris Thomas of ordering poll workers to “change the date” on “a bundle of ballots” at the city’s absentee counting board, which was located inside the downtown TCF Center.
    Those ballots “should not have been immediately counted because there was no evidence the ballots were received by the state-mandated deadline of Nov. 3,” she said, telling reporters that Republicans have referred the matter to the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Eastern District of Michigan.

    The Trump campaign made similar claims in a lawsuit rejected Thursday by Michigan Court of Claims Judge Cynthia Stephens, who dismissed a poll challenger affidavit as “hearsay.”

    In a Friday statement, Thomas said he was saddened by the “unfounded allegations” regarding the Detroit election. The back-dating accusations are “wrong and reveal the person making them doesn’t know Michigan’s election process,” he said.

    Thomas, who worked 36 years as the state’s election director, told Bridge Michigan on Thursday that no late ballots were counted in Detroit.

    There were roughly 200 ballots that had not been “fully logged” into the state’s Qualified Voter File when they were received at satellite clerk’s offices, he said. The ballot envelopes were physically stamped with a receipt date, however, so the city directed workers at the TCF Center to use that stamp date to enter them as received in the Qualified Voter File, he explained.

    “When they set up the satellite offices, they brought in furloughed [workers] who did a great job but they may not have dotted all the I’s and crossed all the T’s in some instances,” Thomas said. “It was not a huge number of ballots.”

    He added Friday: “The scenario described actually shows a process designed to eliminate errors working to do just that.”

    The claim: ‘Software glitch’ may have affected many counties

    McDaniel cited what she called a “major software issue” in Antrim County, where local officials initially reported a lopsided advantage Biden in the Republican stronghold, and questioned whether the software “could have caused problems in other counties as well.”

    There’s no evidence of an Antrim-like vote swing in any other Michigan county. There, a tally that showed Biden up by about 3,000 votes has been corrected to show Trump carried the county by about 2,500 votes.
    Antrim County Clerk Sheryl Guy, a Republican, told the Detroit Free Press that officials sent the initial results to the state without checking them. They later discovered the mistake and fixed it.

    Cox, the Michigan GOP Chair, suggested that other counties that use the same software “need to closely examine their results for similar discrepancies.”

    Michigan has 83 counties; Antrim is one of 69 counties that use Dominion Voting Systems equipment, according to recent state data.

    Unofficial results show Trump won 63 of those counties, while Biden won six: Wayne, Kent, Ingham, Saginaw, Marquette and Leelanau.
    That aligns with historical trends. Wayne, Ingham, Saginaw and Marquette counties are typically Democratic counties, while Kent has been trending Democratic. Leelanau has favored Republican, but Trump won the county by less than 500 votes in 2016.

    Kent County Clerk Lisa Posthumus Lyons, a Republican who was the party’s nominee for lieutenant governor in 2018, told Bridge she has "full faith" in the Dominion product that both Antrim and Kent counties use.

    "What happened in Antrim County appears to be a human error in dealing with the software, and errors occur,” she said.

    The claim: 2,000 ballots ‘given to Democrats’ in Oakland County

    Suggesting a pattern of vote total irregularities, McDaniel told reporters that “just last night in [Rochester Hills], we found 2,000 ballots that had been given to Democrats, that were Republican ballots, due to a clerical error,” McDaniel said.

    Rochester Hills Clerk Tina Barton, a Republican, acknowledged there was a local input error when vote totals were sent to Oakland County, but the discrepancy was fixed as soon as it was discovered, she said, calling Romney’s framing “unfortunate.”

    “Two thousand ballots weren’t suddenly found,” Barton told Bridge. “It was a glitch when the file was sent in. As soon as it was caught, it was corrected.”

    On election night, as the city sent results to the county, a file from one absentee ballot district did not appear to properly transmit, Barton said.

    So workers sent it a second time, without realizing the first had actually gone through. They later discovered it had been added to an in-person voting precinct tally rather than absentee count, she said.

    As a result, those absentee ballots were essentially counted twice in unofficial results initially posted on the Oakland County website. Democrats voted by absentee ballot more often across Michigan, so the error did inflate the Democratic vote tally, Barton said.
    The correct tallies were posted on Oakland County’s website Thursday. According to the updated numbers, Biden beat Trump by 108,066 votes in Oakland County, winning 56 percent of the vote.

    Barton noted that Michigan has a “pretty robust” canvass process in which the county and state will review local votes before certifying the election.

    “So there are measures in place. There are gatekeepers to the process, and obviously the process worked here. We did find that the file was sent twice.”

    In a Friday evening statement, Barton added: “As a Republican, I am disturbed that this is intentionally being mischaracterized to undermine the election process.”

    https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-go...laims-are-weak
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legio_Italica View Post
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    America has free (in most places compulsory) public education through high school. Racism is discouraged at all levels of education.
    I have no doubt he US has entrenched racism in many institutions. My country does, why would they be different? Its encouraging that both right and left candidates address the issue in their own ways (Republicans by indirect economic reform, Democrats by more direct reform) and at the very least cannot ignore the question.

    While there's horrible fake spin round the question there is definitely a question and the US to its credit is at least discussing it.

    In my country we address it too but quite often its paternalistic head patting or actual apartheid thinly disguised.

    Just a side note, the US still has some sexism, its also surrounded by spin, but once again real and as with racism real steps have been taken to address it: both parties have now had women VP candidates and you will have a female president ...[checks watch]...sooner or later.

    We had our first female PM just over a decade ago and Rupert Murdoch took great delight in stirring up stupid sexist slurs against her ("overly ambitious" "barren" and "Juliar" were particular lowlights). Look for FOX to play the gender card as hard as they played the race card against Obama. Rupert is not himself particularly racist or sexist but he loves to push people's buttons and exercise power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidin View Post
    You know there’s a reason people didn’t believe Giuliani with his Hunter Biden conspiracy right?
    Just because the Biden News Media refused to cover and claim there's nothing to it doesn't mean people don't believe it. There's at least 70 million who do.

    Anyway, the trump campaign is now officially going after Nevada. This is a no-brainer as Nevada is Harry Reid's territory and it is no secret that Reid is notoriously corrupt:

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...ion-challenge/

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