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    34 43.59%
  • Joe Biden - Kamala Harris (Democrats)

    37 47.44%
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    4 5.13%
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLeft View Post
    o.0

    Two weeks ago Trump encouraged his cultists to storm the Capitol Building. They killed a police officer, vandalised the place and went looking for 'Traitors' to hang in the portable gallows they'd erected outside.

    And you seem surprised that people may not be entirely keen on either the perpetrators or the man egging them on...

    Amazing...
    Seeing Trump's behaviour since the election, how can anyone dispute those who doubted his character were right all along? Anyone who looks upon those actions and is truly surprised by them should take a moment to reflect on their own lack of judgement all those years
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLeft View Post
    o.0

    Two weeks ago Trump encouraged his cultists to storm the Capitol Building. They killed a police officer, vandalised the place and went looking for 'Traitors' to hang in the portable gallows they'd erected outside.

    And you seem surprised that people may not be entirely keen on either the perpetrators or the man egging them on...

    Amazing...
    Trump's legislature/maneuvers: "It was just a prank, bro!"

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    What actually happened was Trump called for a peaceful protest, no cop was killed by the rioters, and then everyone universally denounced the violence but the left only thinks they have because it's the first time they've denounced violence since Charlotesville. Because when they do it, it's ok. Nevermind that dozens of people were slaughtered in the rioting the left has been responsible for since May.

    He's gone and y'all are still obsessed. The sun has risen on Biden's America, and all is well with the world again. The evil orange has been banished to Florida.
    Last edited by Pontifex Maximus; January 21, 2021 at 09:19 AM.

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    I See pontifex, the First steps of letting go. What will you do, until you wait for the Kochs and Mercers to present you the next fake Messiah?

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    Other than wild assumptions, what are you basing any of those ascribed beliefs to? What evidence do you have that I'm some sort of rabid trump cultist other than the fact I'm not part of the rabid anti Trump cult?

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    Conservatives say that no cops were killed in the pro-Trump mob at the capitol and then wonder why they are pariahs of America.

    How sad. It's not even disingenuous at this point. Just outright lies. Just like Trump espoused every day.

    As I said, the GOP has some business to handle in their own party before they can be taken seriously again.
    Things I trust more than American conservatives:

    Drinks from Bill Cosby, Flint Michigan tap water, Plane rides from Al Qaeda, Anything on the menu at Chipotle, Medical procedures from Mengele

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    Who killed the cop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pontifex Maximus View Post
    Who killed the cop?
    *eyeroll*

    Well it wasn't the One-Armed Man...

    US Capitol riot: Police officer dies amid pressure on Trump over inciting violence - BBC News

    It was MAGA Cultists. Who else was it going to be?

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    What was the cause of death? If a cop was murdered I want to know who did it. "maga cultists" doesn't give us anyone to arrest and try for the crime as they should be. Let's get specific and serve some justice.

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    @pontifex: I understand, didn't wanted to put you into one corner...

    For my part, i despise trump and his whole Gang, while being conservative (german Version).

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_mango55 View Post
    What positions are those? I'm talking on things he actually acted on, not wild claims he made in interviews.
    This isn't really that hard. The obvious one that Democrats were freaking out about how Donald would get rid of gay marriage. Something which Donald didn't even consider, and made his intentions clear that he was pro-LGBT.

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    My position on Trump is I dislike him less than most other politicians. Trump's ok in my book but he's not someone I admire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cope View Post
    On the day of Biden's inauguration, armed Antifa militants smashed up the Democratic Party's headquarters in Oregon after having tagged the building with messages such as "ACAB" and "f* Biden". The incident is a recurrence of events which occurred in November and during the Floyd protests. Mimicking the words of the FBI director, Joe Biden falsely referred to Antifa as an "idea" during the presidential debates.
    This is what I don't get. The Leftists are happy that Biden won but Biden is the most poised to actually deal with BLM and Antifa if he wanted to. If Trump had done it that might have been a problem. But Biden dealing with the radicals of his own side is an easier narrative to spin. The cognitive dissonance on the Left is astounding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Oda Nobunaga View Post
    This is what I don't get. The Leftists are happy that Biden won but Biden is the most poised to actually deal with BLM and Antifa if he wanted to. If Trump had done it that might have been a problem. But Biden dealing with the radicals of his own side is an easier narrative to spin. The cognitive dissonance on the Left is astounding.
    Donald Trump’s chaotic final days in the White House could present President Joe Biden with a historic opportunity to broaden his base of public support and splinter Republican opposition to his agenda.

    Recent polls have repeatedly found that about three-fourths or more of GOP voters accept Trump’s disproven charges that Biden stole the 2020 election, a number that has understandably alarmed domestic-terrorism experts. But in the same surveys, between one-fifth and one-fourth of Republican partisans have rejected that perspective. Instead, they’ve expressed unease about their party’s efforts to overturn the results—a campaign that culminated in the January 6 attack on the Capitol by a mob of Trump’s supporters.

    Those anxieties about the GOP’s actions, and about Trump’s future role in the party, may create an opening for Biden to dislodge even more Republican-leaning voters, many of whom have drifted away from the party since Trump’s emergence as its leader. If Biden could lastingly attract even a significant fraction of the Republican voters dismayed over the riot, it would constitute a seismic change in the political balance of power.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...t-riot/617765/
    It’s just the fundamental delusion of the Democrat party. At this point I can’t tell if it’s really ignorance or a tacit demand to bend the knee. Every cycle, the DNC does a post mortem on why millions and millions of people decided not to vote for them, even as they pander to far left activists, defame the country as a racist, evil empire, seek to gut national defense, rhetorically lambaste capitalism on social media for the likes, and try to force through trillion dollar social engineering projects. Meanwhile, the GOP can do whatever they like because they know at the end of the day, all they have to do is say “No” in order to maintain ample cross sections of voters. If the Democrats really wanted to attract more moderate and moderate conservative voters, they might consider running on something besides a bid to “fundamentally transform” the country every 2-4 years, shrieking moral indignation at anyone who dares stand in the way. Republicans don’t hate Biden. They hate the people who hate Biden and tried everything they could to knock him out of the primaries. For whatever reason though, the Democrat establishment is committed to a loveless marriage with those same people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pontifex Maximus View Post
    What was the cause of death? If a cop was murdered I want to know who did it. "maga cultists" doesn't give us anyone to arrest and try for the crime as they should be. Let's get specific and serve some justice.
    He was struck on the head by a fire extinguisher while engaging with MAGA Cultists. But you already know all this. Obvious sealioning is obvious...

    Trump riots: FBI to investigate death of policeman Brian Sicknick - BBC News

    As for the perp? The FBI are on the case. Probably best to let them investigate...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legio_Italica View Post
    It’s just the fundamental delusion of the Democrat party. At this point I can’t tell if it’s really ignorance or a tacit demand to bend the knee. Every cycle, the DNC does a post mortem on why millions and millions of people decided not to vote for them, even as they pander to far left activists, defame the country as a racist, evil empire, seek to gut national defense, rhetorically lambaste capitalism on social media for the likes, and try to force through trillion dollar social engineering projects. Meanwhile, the GOP can do whatever they like because they know at the end of the day, all they have to do is say “No” in order to maintain ample cross sections of voters. If the Democrats really wanted to attract more moderate and moderate conservative voters, they might consider running on something besides a bid to “fundamentally transform” the country every 2-4 years, shrieking moral indignation at anyone who dares stand in the way. Republicans don’t hate Biden. They hate the people who hate Biden and tried everything they could to knock him out of the primaries. For whatever reason though, the Democrat establishment is committed to a loveless marriage with those same people.
    The tricks that both these parties use to win supporters and keep the game going has never been as transparent as 2020/21. The GOP shouldn't even try to win anymore, since they get a lot more from just being the opposition party and winning on the local level, Senate etc etc. If they win, as Trump did, then they would actually have to provide something. While the DNC can just keep pandering to all sorts of different groups, form a Left coalition and win. Since they have no specific group that they need to be accountable to, then they don't need to provide anything specific. Although Obama signals the point where the DNC started to seriously deviate from their Liberal position towards a Leftist direction. Funny enough because the leadership itself hasn't changed at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLeft View Post
    He was struck on the head by a fire extinguisher while engaging with MAGA Cultists. But you already know all this. Obvious sealioning is obvious...

    Trump riots: FBI to investigate death of policeman Brian Sicknick - BBC News

    As for the perp? The FBI are on the case. Probably best to let them investigate...
    Citing two law enforcement officials, the New York Times reported that Sicknick was struck with a fire extinguisher at some point during the breach of Congress. However, reports of an attack haven't been confirmed.

    From your own source. In any event in not sure why you're clutching pearls as if I wouldn't want someone who assaulted a police officer and potentially mortally injured him to face trial

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Oda Nobunaga View Post
    You feel hope because a black girl gave a speech?
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    Don't get angry because an young American poet and black girl delivered a beautiful poem calling for unity - and hope for a better future. Yes, she described herself (sic) "a skinny black girl descended from slaves and raised by a single mother who can dream of becoming president, only to find her self reciting for one".
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    In his inaugural speech Biden reminds America - and reminds the world - how a civilization collapses: hate, racism, brutality and poverty.
    Biden’s powerful speech. My top quotes,

    A cry for racial justice some 400 years in the making moves us. The dream of justice for all will be deferred no longer.

    A cry for survival comes from the planet itself. A cry that can't be any more desperate or any more clear.

    And now, a rise in political extremism, white supremacy, domestic terrorism that we must confront and we will defeat.We can deliver racial justice.

    Our history has been a constant struggle between the American ideal that we are all created equal and the harsh, ugly reality that racism, nativism, fear, and demonization have long torn us apart.

    And, we must reject a culture in which facts themselves are manipulated and even manufactured.

    This is a time of testing. We face an attack on democracy and on truth

    A raging virus.Growing inequity.The sting of systemic racism. A climate in crisis.
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    Nobody is angry about a black lady reading a poem she wrote lol. Everyone is confused about why or how that gives you hope, or even more specifically, hope in what? The lefts bizarre, obsessive fixation with race is bordering on a fetish now. It's also a political message that half the country disagrees with. So contrary to what you may believe, her race has nothing to do with any objections people might have about that poem.
    Last edited by Pontifex Maximus; January 21, 2021 at 12:36 PM.

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    You want someone to explain why poetry can inspire people?
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