USA elections 2020 - 2021

[alhoon]

USA Senate in 2020:
It is an uphill battle for the Republicans, the way I see it. 23 Republican seats vs 12 Democrat seats are up for grabs.
The Republicans need to win 2/3rds of the battles just to remain even and 60% of the battles to keep the senate.

If the Democrats win just half the seats that are up for grabs, they would flip the senate. With their 2 independents that usually vote for Democrats, they would have a comfortable majority.

[Coughdrop addict]

USA Senate in 2020:
It is an uphill battle for the Republicans, the way I see it. 23 Republican seats vs 12 Democrat seats are up for grabs.
The Republicans need to win 2/3rds of the battles just to remain even and 60% of the battles to keep the senate.

If the Democrats win just half the seats that are up for grabs, they would flip the senate. With their 2 independents that usually vote for Democrats, they would have a comfortable majority.

Nearly every Trump supporter I've spoken too thinks that not only will Trump win by a landslide, but every Senate Republican will win too. I'm starting to wonder if in fact they're not just wishful thinking, but really have convinced themselves that will be the case.

[alhoon]

Nearly every Trump supporter I've spoken too thinks that not only will Trump win by a landslide, but every Senate Republican will win too. I'm starting to wonder if in fact they're not just wishful thinking, but really have convinced themselves that will be the case.

You need to change which Trump supporters you speak to and avoid asking promoters. If you see a woman in a maga hat, handing out leaflets in a t-shirt that writes "Build the Wall" don't ask her opinion.
She is a promoter, she will tell you that they will win by 50% and only godless traitor commies would not vote for Trump.

[B. W.]

USA Senate in 2020:
It is an uphill battle for the Republicans, the way I see it. 23 Republican seats vs 12 Democrat seats are up for grabs.
The Republicans need to win 2/3rds of the battles just to remain even and 60% of the battles to keep the senate.

If the Democrats win just half the seats that are up for grabs, they would flip the senate. With their 2 independents that usually vote for Democrats, they would have a comfortable majority.

It's important to remember that the Senate elections are statewide elections.

[Aexodus]

Could the senate elections be useful for gauging presidential nominee preferences for the relevant states?

[alhoon]

It's important to remember that the Senate elections are statewide elections.

So?
That still leaves 35 seats up for grabs... when 23 are Republican seats.
Yes, we know Texas will go to Republicans and California to Democrats.

[pacifism]

It is an uphill battle for the Republicans, the way I see it. 23 Republican seats vs 12 Democrat seats are up for grabs.
The Republicans need to win 2/3rds of the battles just to remain even and 60% of the battles to keep the senate.

I think it's still in the Republicans' favor, but closer to a toss-up at this point. The last time these Senators were up for election in 2014, it was a historic swing for the Republicans. However, most of the states are in the South or Midwest, which have a GOP bias that is much stronger than the nationwide opinion favoring the Democrats. It doesn't matter if the Democrats are shown at a +8% advantage this election cycle in a state that is +15% more Republican than the nation. The scales won't tip enough.

There are several states where the Democrats have a real shot. In rough order of likelihood, Arizona, Colorado, Maine, North Carolina, Iowa, and Montana could flip to the Democratic party. But, Doug Jones in Alabama is also up for re-election. The main reason a Democrat barely won Jeff Session's old seat is because the Republican candidate was a pedophile, and Jones may end up battling Sessions. The Democratic party has basically left him hanging, so they really need to win five Senate races, and retain the other eleven seats. Winning several of the toss-ups seems doable, but winning almost all of them is going to be tricky.

The Republican Senate strategy only requires their incumbents to hang on to their seats. The congressional map already favors the GOP. Democrats are concentrated within states and across the states, which makes the Senate in particular an uphill battle. They already made a lot of gains in the House in 2018, so a Democratic hold in there seems more plausible to me than even more wins at this point.

Could the senate elections be useful for gauging presidential nominee preferences for the relevant states?

More so than previous presidential elections. The uptick in straight-ticket voting would help the Democrats in, say, Maine, but favor the Republicans for the Senate as a whole.

[Coughdrop addict]

Russia Secretly Offered Afghan Militants Bounties to Kill U.S. Troops, Intelligence Says

This needs to be in every Biden add. Trump and Republicans knew of this act of war and did nothing.

[Pontifex Maximus]

Muh Russia takes on yet another hilarious dimension. So you've contorted yourself due to TDS stage 7 that you're now in favor of the war in Afghanistan?

[tgoodenow]

Russia Secretly Offered Afghan Militants Bounties to Kill U.S. Troops, Intelligence Says

This needs to be in every Biden add. Trump and Republicans knew of this act of war and did nothing.

The Iranians outright sponsor proxy armies that kill US troops in Iraq and Democrats got upset when we killed the guy responsible for it. Not sure thats the best angle. Democrat voters aren't pro war, they like free stuff instead.

As far as a landslide or not; go check the 2016 thread. I fondly remember the gloating in the months before the election about what a historical defeat Trump was in for. At one point, they even were wondering if he was going to drop out of the race because he knew how bad he was going to get beat. How could Trump have won when Obama was responsible for the greatest economic recovery in the history of the planet or whatever the left claims...

[alhoon]

The Iranians outright sponsor proxy armies that kill US troops in Iraq and Democrats got upset when we killed the guy responsible for it. Not sure thats the best angle.

Nooooope, SOME demotards were upset Trump ordered the death of the guy that was directing paramilitaries to kill USA troops and allies. The same demotards that were whistling in the rain when Obama drones were accidentally causing civilian casualties. (I like Obama, mind you, but he's not perfect).

How could Trump have won when Obama was responsible for the greatest economic recovery in the history of the planet or whatever the left claims...

Because a large-enough minority of USA voters are evil, naive to the point of stupidity, or both. Moscow Mitch is an example of the first, Ann Coulter is an example of the later.
And these votes, added with sensible votes for Republican party pushed the orange man in small victories that handed him tons of electors with 1% to 3% margin of victory. And that's not a fault of the electoral college, that's a fault of the winner-takes-all.

And that applies to both parties BTW.

There are Democrats that rub their hands with glee watching the economy collapse and the covid deaths rise.

[Coughdrop addict]

Muh Russia takes on yet another hilarious dimension. So you've contorted yourself due to TDS stage 7 that you're now in favor of the war in Afghanistan?

Now you're outright cheering American deaths to own the libs. Is there any action Trump or Putin could do you would not approve of? Would you cheer another 9/11?

There are Democrats that rub their hands with glee watching the economy collapse and the covid deaths rise.

Not glee, just shaking our heads that everything we said would come to pass has happened. We told his supporters that Trump was an incompetent buffoon who has never faced any difficulty in his life thanks to his father's money and would crumble at the first bump in the road, and we were right. We told them that Trump would diminish the US to such a degree that it may never recover, and so he has. And right now we are telling them the economy and Covid-19 will get even worse, and all signs point to us being right again.

[tgoodenow]

Nooooope, SOME demotards were upset Trump ordered the death of the guy that was directing paramilitaries to kill USA troops and allies. The same demotards that were whistling in the rain when Obama drones were accidentally causing civilian casualties. (I like Obama, mind you, but he's not perfect).

K great; so what are our options:
We can put sanctions on Russia like we did Iran. Europe will ignore those sanctions and buy their while telling us we need to stay and protect them from Russia.
Attack Russia.
Go to the UN so they can lecture us and tell us that its ok that Russia did that and they belong on the Human Rights Council.

Whichever Trump picks, the Democrats will complain in the opposite direction of which he goes.

[Coughdrop addict]

K great; so what are our options:
We can put sanctions on Russia like we did Iran. Europe will ignore those sanctions and buy their while telling us we need to stay and protect them from Russia.
Attack Russia.
Go to the UN so they can lecture us and tell us that its ok that Russia did that and they belong on the Human Rights Council.

Or we could arm and train the jihadist groups in the caucuses and Chechnya and offer bounties on Russian heads.

Whichever Trump picks, the Democrats will complain in the opposite direction of which he goes.

Poor Trump, forever a helpless victim. Just the kind of person you want leading your party.

[Vanoi]

Or we could arm and train the jihadist groups in the caucuses and Chechnya and offer bounties on Russian heads.

Like in Afghanistan in the 1980s? That didn't work so well before. Lets not try it again.

[priam11]

Russia Secretly Offered Afghan Militants Bounties to Kill U.S. Troops, Intelligence Says

This needs to be in every Biden add. Trump and Republicans knew of this act of war and did nothing.

If not, it will surely be in every Lincoln Project ad.

[Pontifex Maximus]

Now you're outright cheering American deaths to own the libs. Is there any action Trump or Putin could do you would not approve of? Would you cheer another 9/11?

No, my position is the exact opposite. The TDS in your posts just forces you to take this approach because orange man is in fact bad and Putin is his puppet master, according to you. That whole theory is of course, well, very laughable. There's a cocophony of laughter associated with this theory you have. My purpose is to show that it is directed at your opinions.

[Cyclops]

... orange man...

So Orange Man retweeted a racist rant:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...erce-criticism

In my country a leader would have to resign on the spot for this.

Whats the working defence here, do Republicans double down on the racism or go with "Trump is deaf and incompetent, vote for him?"

Honest question, your system is so different to ours. I have no idea how this even happened, so I can't see how it plays.

[Aexodus]

So at 1:24 a man in a golf cart mocks protestors by saying “You got it mate, white power, white power!” after the protestor calls them a Nazi and shouts, “Where’s your white hat! Where’s your white hat!”

It’s poor PR, but it’s not a racist rant, and there’s nothing else objectionable in the video, unless you consider a woman shouting “ Trump objectionable.

I don’t care.

[tgoodenow]

Or we could arm and train the jihadist groups in the caucuses and Chechnya and offer bounties on Russian heads.

Great idea John McCain, it will surely work Out well this time.