USA elections 2020 - 2021

[Alastor]

These matters are typically governed by state laws. So the Trump campaign would have to go state by state or even district by district making legally plausible claims that a court would agree to hear. Otherwise it’s all hot air.

From what I understand, that's exactly what they are doing.

[PointOfViewGun]

Georgia is too close. Trump is leading with 13,540 votes and there are about 50 thousand votes left to be counted. Biden have been closing the gap bit by bit there.

[DaVinci]

I believe it's a fault in humanity as a whole rather than America in particular. Fascism, anti-intellectualism, scapegoating, groupthink, and personality cults have taken root in other nations as well.

In the face of Republican gerrymandering, voter suppression, and other cheating tactics, a slim Democrat win is more substantial than it appears on the surface. Eliminate the dirty tactics and some states would turn blue.

While that might be valid in whole, let's keep it with western industry states which have a representative democracy system, constitutions based on human rights, aka with tendentially a civil society, for 50 recent years at least, that's halfway comparable.
And then, nope.
Can't imagine that this no. 45 would gain that much voter support in any other such country. Even many most-die-hard conservatives or quasi fascists in west/middle Europe despise the Orange. Example, ca. 90 % Germans are unhappy with no. 45. Almost all if not actually all CDU/CSU politicians are unhappy with no. 45, and note, they are the party of the status quo (conservatives) and gain the highest percentage of votes.
The DSA (former USA) is definitely special in this regard. It's the known American exceptionalism, where such a big amount of people have no problem with such a person. That said, it is known that mainly the American provinces are responsible for the result, and the cities in so-called red states are merely blue. Nonetheless, i wonder how such results are possible when one assumes the most people live in cities. But it's probably a high amount of small towns that makes this effect. Edit: Oh, and there were enough "interviews" with no. 45 voters who openly called for civil war and bloody violence, and i do not mean the ones who run around with assault weapons on streets, but people who look pretty normal. Unthinkable for west/middle Europe, except one looks at Pegida people andthelikes, while they merely pander on certain persons and do not call for bloody war (as of yet, and not taking actual neo-nazis into account, they call for blood in Europe as well).

[Morticia Iunia Bruti]

I guess this is caused by strong private broadcasters like Fox and weak public broadcasters and public medias in comparison to the BBC in the UK or the ARD/ZDF/DW in Germany.

Fox is creating with its missing objectivity as reporters an alternative reality bubble.

[B. W.]

Aside from that being proof of literally nothing, do you have any sources other than fringe, tinfoil-hat-wearing political hacks like Breitbart and Gregg Jarrett? Or are you fine with everyone on the forum immediately writing you off when you spam fake news and baseless conspiracy theories from basement dwellers?

What you should be asking is this: are there any other people who are doing the job that mainstream media is supposed to be doing?

To that I answer: why, yes, there is:

https://michaelsavage.com/watch-proj...s-in-michigan/

[DaVinci]

I guess this is caused by strong private broadcasters like Fox and weak public broadcasters and public medias in comparison to the BBC in the UK or the ARD/ZDF/DW in Germany.

Fox is creating with its missing objectivity as reporters an alternative reality bubble.

True. But it goes on since the 90s in that way (mentioning Newt Gingrich for example). But thing is, even the "former" die-hard conservatives of the GOP went away from this bandwagon since no. 45 entered the stage, and work very actively against him, publicly called for voting Biden. Those are people who were supported years long by Fox and vice versa, just was their house broadcaster. So, what remains, the people. And a clique of no. 45 boot-licker politicians. They, the people, are very radical and waited only for a guy like no. 45. It'll be impossible for a Biden administration to fix that, it needs decades. And if no. 45 gets another 4 years or even more, it won't be fixable ever.

[B. W.]

It's not that difficult to see that election fraud is going on because elections just do no happen this way:

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...s-swing-states

What the article says is true enough and not that hard to get your arms around. This ain't my first election by a longshot.

[Alastor]

Well on a different note, at least Trump has finally gotten more votes than Hillary in an election.

[Coughdrop addict]

It's not that difficult to see that election fraud is going on because elections just do no happen this way:

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...s-swing-states

What the article says is true enough and not that hard to get your arms around. This ain't my first election by a longshot.

You should start thinking about what your excuse will be when Trump flees to Russia and leaves behind a hateful Twitter screed saying that the United States is a country full of losers and he always hated living here. For the rest of his life Trump will blame you for failing him.

[alhoon]

Some good news for BOTH SIDES!

All of the remaining votes in USA election are outstanding ones.

As such, you won't have to rely on inferior ballots to settle this election.

[Sir Adrian]

Well on a different note, at least Trump has finally gotten more votes than Hillary in an election.

The number of voters has really been impressive, too bad a lot of them did it for political partisanship rather than for a better future.

[Alastor]

The number of voters has really been impressive, too bad a lot of them did it for political partisanship rather than for a better future.

Well, either that or there really is millions of fraudulent ballots.

[Sir Adrian]

Actually I'm referring to voters of both parties. Plenty of people voted trump or biden simple because of party of affiliation and without bothering to check their agenda.

[antaeus]

Actually I'm referring to voters of both parties. Plenty of people voted trump or biden simple because of party of affiliation and without bothering to check their agenda.

And thanks to the two party system... if your most important issue is border security or low corporate taxes, you have to vote for someone who says white supremacists are mostly good people. Conversely, if you're a staunch social democrat who thinks people will be better off with funded public hospitals just like every single other wealthy country, you have to hitch your wagon to a semi retired centrist who has one too many zoom meetings with Eastern European gangsters.

And thanks to cognitive bias, after a short while our values start to align with the poor choice we have to align with... "low corporate tax" guy becomes low corporate tax "white supremacists are exercising their free speech" guy... and visa versa

[Infidel144]

if your most important issue is border security or low corporate taxes, you have to vote for someone who says white supremacists are mostly good people.

You mean someone who said:
"And you had people -- and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists -- because they should be condemned totally."
https://www.politifact.com/article/2...sides-remarks/

[priam11]

It's not that difficult to see that election fraud is going on because elections just do no happen this way:

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...s-swing-states

What the article says is true enough and not that hard to get your arms around. This ain't my first election by a longshot.

Ouch!

When you start sourcing Michael Savage and Project Veritas ya kinda already lost the race before you even finished stretching.

[antaeus]

You mean someone who said:
"And you had people -- and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists -- because they should be condemned totally."
https://www.politifact.com/article/2...sides-remarks/

Joe Biden also doesn't have zoom meetings with Eastern European gangsters. I thought it was obvious that I was exaggerating facetiously for effect.

Point being, that in a two party system, you have to take the bad with the good when making your choice, and it's highly unlikely that you're going to align completely with the party that represents your key issues. But in time, the way your brain processes your value system, will move your opinions on issues into line with the party you select.

[B. W.]

And thanks to the two party system... if your most important issue is border security or low corporate taxes, you have to vote for someone who says white supremacists are mostly good people. Conversely, if you're a staunch social democrat who thinks people will be better off with funded public hospitals just like every single other wealthy country, you have to hitch your wagon to a semi retired centrist who has one too many zoom meetings with Eastern European gangsters.

And thanks to cognitive bias, after a short while our values start to align with the poor choice we have to align with... "low corporate tax" guy becomes low corporate tax "white supremacists are exercising their free speech" guy... and visa versa

It is what it is, but better than the alternative.

In this case you missed a couple of pertinent points:

If you vote for Biden you get Harris.

If you vote for Biden you get 25 million Taiwanese invaded and subjugated by the CCP.

If Trump wins, you can continue to say: "Orange man bad", and feel good about yourself.

Ouch!

When you start sourcing Michael Savage and Project Veritas ya kinda already lost the race before you even finished stretching.

You should only have the NYT or CNN as your news source right? So lame. I read them all.

So...do you have a problem with this award winning journalist:

Ballot fraud in Michigan:

https://sharylattkisson.com/2020/11/...roper-ballots/

[antaeus]

It is what it is, but better than the alternative.

In this case you missed a couple of pertinent points:

If you vote for Biden you get Harris.

If you vote for Biden you get 25 million Taiwanese invaded and subjugated by the CCP.

If Trump wins, you can continue to say: "Orange man bad", and feel good about yourself.

Oh right, like Infidel, you're getting stuck in the facetious examples and are unable to resist defending your man, and not discuss the point of the post. Which is that:

"Point being, that in a two party system, you have to take the bad with the good when making your choice, and it's highly unlikely that you're going to align completely with the party that represents your key issues. But in time, the way your brain processes your value system, will move your opinions on issues into line with the party you select."

[Alastor]

Trump's lead in Georgia has fallen below 3000 votes. It's gonna be ridiculously close. Trump and co have basically said Georgia will keep on counting votes until Biden wins, I wonder if it does end up that way.