USA elections 2020 - 2021

[Heathen Hammer]

Don’t you think that is a bit disingenuous? Vindman and the diplomatic corp were not anonymous, plus Trump blocked others from testifying. So your reasoning is flawed at best, intentionally false at worst.

That's just your opinion, and it is irrelevant to the fact that Hunter's email story is collaborated not just by anonymous sources but by, accidentally, Hunter himself and even his own lawyer.

[Gaidin]

That's just your opinion, and it is irrelevant to the fact that Hunter's email story is collaborated not just by anonymous sources but by, accidentally, Hunter himself and even his own lawyer.

Pondering two questions. Why did the actual writers take their bylines off? And why did Giuliani pick NYP instead of a paper that would spend time fact-checking the information?

[Heathen Hammer]

Pondering two questions. Why did the actual writers take their bylines off? And why did Giuliani pick NYP instead of a paper that would spend time fact-checking the information?

Who said NYP didn't spend time fact-checking the information? They clearly did, since Hunter's own lawyer accidentally confirmed it by asking for the laptop back. You seem to confuse "fact-checking" with partisan rationalizations of denial of inconvenient, but objective facts.

[antaeus]

Who said NYP didn't spend time fact-checking the information? They clearly did, since Hunter's own lawyer accidentally confirmed it by asking for the laptop back. You seem to confuse "fact-checking" with partisan rationalizations of denial of inconvenient, but objective facts.

Imagine for a moment, if you engaged with the substance of a comment instead of kneejerk accusations of partisanship.

What Gaidin is pointing out, is that if the article was fact checked, the verified sources would be available to us with the article. It is standard in digital publishing, whether it is Fox news, Breitbart or CNN or whoever.

"Hunter's own lawyer accidentally confirmed it by asking for the laptop back" is only a verified source if it is confirmed/witnessed and supplied in a reference in the by-line of the article. Otherwise it is just weasel words or hearsay, and may even mean something entirely different in context.

[Gaidin]

Also to see how the story on Hunter dropping off laptop is going. I want to know how Hunter Biden drops off a laptop in Delaware while living in California to a Trump-fan shop owner whose footage is wiped and who saw Hunter but is legally blind, but the article is written by Hannity's former producer, but really not, it's written by writers who refused to put their byline on it, with info from Giuliani that he's still holding up from this mess.

[tgoodenow]

The FBI declined to confirm or deny the existence of an investigation into the laptop or the emails, as is standard practice.

Further, Fox News has learned that the FBI and Justice Department officials concur with an assessment from Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe that the laptop is not part of a Russian disinformation campaign targeting Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden.

Ratcliffe, on Monday, said that Hunter Biden’s laptop and the emails on it “is not part of some Russian disinformation campaign," despite claims from House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff, D-Calif.


Meanwhile, additional documents obtained by Fox News include FBI paperwork that details the bureau’s interactions with John Paul Mac Isaac, the owner of “The Mac Shop” who reported the laptop’s contents to authorities, as first reported by the New York Post.

Isaac received a subpoena to testify before U.S. District Court in Delaware on Dec. 9, 2019, the documents show. One page shows what appears to be serial numbers for a laptop and hard drive taken into possession.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fbi...laptop-sources

BUT MUH RUSSIA NARRATIVE

[Seether]

You mean the Justice Department that serves as Trump’s personal lawyers? Yeah... not going to take their assessment at face value.

[Coughdrop addict]

Actually the article says the FBI is not confirming or denying anything. I wish Trump supporters would just admit they hate Hunter Biden because his father has the gall to run against the man they believe is their divinely-appointed ruler. Because this latest smear campaign is pathetic even by Russian standards.

As most Trump supporters probably don't know, Email has meta-data, that's why Rudy used PDF images of emails instead of just sending the Emails. He knew the FBI would find out his little GRU-linked scheme in a heartbeat.

What he didn't know was PDFs have digital meta-data embedded in them as well, like date of creation.

Don't worry, it will be explained at his trial.

[athanaric]

Actually the article says the FBI is not confirming or denying anything. I wish Trump supporters would just admit they hate Hunter Biden because his father has the gall to run against the man they believe is their divinely-appointed ruler.

Imagine hating Trump so much that you're willing to put up with Critical Race Theory just to make sure Trump doesn't get elected.

Because this latest smear campaign is pathetic even by Russian standards.

Ah yes, the vile foreigners are at it again.

[Dekhatres]

https://nypost.com/2020/10/20/trump-...rn-down-homes/

[Ludicus]

Trump, without comments,

Fauci, if we listened to him, we'd have 700,000 [or] 800,000 deaths,"

[Coughdrop addict]

Imagine hating Trump so much that you're willing to put up with Critical Race Theory just to make sure Trump doesn't get elected.

I have no idea what this "Critical Race Theory" is, but it sounds like something completely unrelated to the fact that Trump supporters worship a conman who despises them.

Ah yes, the vile foreigners are at it again.

Nice try. The public now knows-because the committee Marco Rubio leads has told us-that Vladimir Putin's government targeted U.S. elections for the express purpose of helping elevate Trump to power. We also know the Republican's political operation sought Russian assistance, embraced Russian assistance, capitalized on Russian assistance, lied about Russian assistance, and took steps to obstruct the investigation into Russian assistance.

During the 2016 campaign, Trump's campaign chairman was in direct, frequent, and secret communication with a Russian intelligence officer, tasked by the Kremlin with helping run Moscow's influence operations abroad. Trump's operation shared internal information with the Russian operative during its attack on our elections.

The same Senate Intelligence Committee report documented the Trump campaign's willingness to assist the Russian attack on our election, amplifying the leaks of Democratic materials stolen by Kremlin-linked operatives, and highlighted "coordination" between Team Trump and Wikileaks, which was responsible for releasing the documents stolen by Russia.

The report at one point literally describes a "direct tie between senior Trump Campaign officials and the Russian intelligence services."

That's not the assessment of news organizations or Democratic lawmakers exclusively; it's a quote from the report issued by the Republican-led Senate Intelligence Committee.

https://nypost.com/2020/10/20/trump-...rn-down-homes/

An obvious fake by Trump supporters fishing for sympathy.

[Cyclops]

...
An obvious fake by Trump supporters fishing for sympathy.

Trump supporters? I think not. Consider:

>Perfect grammar.
>No spelling errors.
>"Dear" neighbour-formal to the point of being ridiculous.
> No spilt barbecue sauce/Alex Jones fake boner powder

By the same token cannot be antifa as it does not begin "He/She/Xe". No mention of dogs, running or otherwise, so not China. Not on facebook so obviously not Vlad.

Who stands to gain by stirring up US citizens against one another? Someone old enough to use paper, hand delivered?

I would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for you meddling minutemen...

[Gaidin]

So I'm wondering, given all the non-legit data we've seen and all the dramatic whining we've seen Trump make on stage?

The White Women? Who are they voting for?

[AqD]

Actually the article says the FBI is not confirming or denying anything. I wish Trump supporters would just admit they hate Hunter Biden because his father has the gall to run against the man they believe is their divinely-appointed ruler. Because this latest smear campaign is pathetic even by Russian standards.

email or no email. You could easily find the facts about his son:

- graduated in 1996
- 2 years later he's the vice president at MBNA America, a major contributor to his father's political campaigns.

Personal issue aside, he founded BHR in 2003, whose focus is on mergers and acquisitions, and investment in, and reforms, of state-owned enterprise

From most people's perspective, there is nothing wrong with that. A legal company doing legal businesses in a free market.

Except China isn't US - you don't do that kind of business without unofficial cooperation from highest levels. State-owned enterprises is a field of cash cows which are only rewarded to individuals such as children of party elders, for instance the one who was just brought down by corruption charges, a common fate for those being outspoken against Winnie.

[Sir Adrian]

People don't like Hunter because he's a corrupt piece of that funnels money from poor countries.

[Gaidin]

People don't like Hunter because he's a corrupt piece of that funnels money from poor countries.

You don't win the presidency by attacking the candidate's son. Plain and simple.

I want you to remember one simple fact from 2016. One simple fact. It wasn't Crooked Chelsea he was screaming at every rally.

If the best he has is Crooked Hunter he's lost already.

[tgoodenow]

Joe Biden came for a wrestling match and instead got man handled in a policy debate. Moderator neutrality and debate format were the best situation I've seen since I' started following politics in 2008. Would prefer full cutaway from non-speaking candidate during two minutes of mute as well.

Biden shotgun blast to his own foot:

“Would he close down the oil industry?” Trump asked. “Would you close down the oil industry?”

“I would transition from the oil industry, yes,” Biden responded.

What an idiotic thing to say 12 days before an election.

[pacifism]

I mean, I'm sure Texas heard that, but if this election is about Texas, that's not good news for the president. Biden's not the biggest environmentalist - no new fracking on federal land is not very radical because there is not much fracking is on federal land - but the people who care about the environment are all pretty much on team Biden already.

Honestly, the debate was better than last time, but almost everyone's expectations were so low that they could strike oil. It felt like more of the same but a little more policy than a "manhandling" by anyone to me. I still don't think this debate was a major shakeup, and I'm starting to wonder if debates are becoming less important than cultivating effective echo chambers on social media.

[Coughdrop addict]

North Carolina man arrested with van full of guns and explosives, had plans to assassinate Joe Biden

A North Carolina man who was indicted last month on charges of child pornography also had plans to commit a mass shooting during the holidays and assassinate Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden.

A federal grand jury indicted 19-year-old Alexander Hillel Treisman, who also used the alias Alexander S. Theiss, in September on charges of knowingly possessing an image that contained child pornography, according to the Daily Beast. When authorities investigated Treisman’s electronic devices, they discovered a bounty of disturbing information.
Found among Treisman’s social media accounts and devices were images of various firearms he owned, plans to commit a mass shooting on “Christmas or Black Friday,” references to child pornography and child-rape, and multiple internet searches about Biden’s home.
Along with this information, authorities learned that he had purchased an AR-15 in New Hampshire and travelled to a Wendy’s within 4 miles of Biden’s home. He had also written a checklist ending with “execute" and under one of his social media accounts he had posted a meme with the caption “should I kill joe biden?”
Evidence gathered seems to suggest Treisman had made tentative plans to leave the country at one point with a doctored Polish passport discovered on his hard drive and emails to a Canadian law firm asking about obtaining Canadian citizenship.

Another one of Trump's base acting out. Get ready for Al-Qaeda style attacks from them once Biden wins.