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**~~Exarch~~** · April 02, 2020, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by Vanoi

Your source isn't working but i don't expect much from Chinese Twitter anyways. Are you claiming she hasn't disappeared?
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Incredible, you've displayed soviet levels of coming to grips with reality.

Here's a shock of reality for you:

10 Million Unemployed

Source: https://www.rt.com/business/484785-u...e-coronavirus/

and now the US Navy has fired the american captain for daring to speak up for the lives of his men, can i get a peak soviet union circa 1984 right about now?:

Shooting the messenger? US Navy SACKS captain for causing alarm with plea to save lives of Covid-19-stricken carrier crew

2 Apr, 2020 21:09 / Updated 8 minutes ago

Get short URL

Source:
https://www.rt.com/usa/484839-covid-...aptain-sacked/

the state of america is a state that resembles the plague of Justinian

Quite frankly, american society doesn't have what it takes to beat this virus and even the americans agree with me: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...7tmTwSjnWT5JAM

EDIT: just heard that Amazon workers are infected; they could be spreading the virus to innocent americans hiding at home.
Already the situation is so bad that the USG is asking for ventilators from veterinarians to use on americans.

**Akar** · April 02, 2020, 05:41 PM

I didn't even realize it was April Fools all of the jokes were so bad I figured it was just the usual failed attempts at humor.

**Aexodus** · April 02, 2020, 07:33 PM

Exarch, would you care to share your thoughts on how an epidemic in China came to be a pandemic across the world?

**~~Exarch~~** · April 02, 2020, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by Aexodus

Exarch, would you care to share your thoughts on how an epidemic in China came to be a pandemic across the world?

Excellent question, even if it is loaded.

You're assuming the theory that SARS-Cov-2 originated in China when in actuality it was merely discovered and reported on by the medical authorities when evidence exists that as many as 5 different strains existed in america (particularly during the "bad flu season on 2019" along with the vaping deaths) and a strain of SARS-Cov-2 existed in Italy as far back as November 2019.

Even after it was discovered and genome mapped (by China no less), the WHO and Chinese researchers were already warning about the highly infectiousness of this novel coronavirus; hell the sheer fact that the Chinese locked down an entire city to contain the virus should have been warning enough but no, american, british and european leaders and governments blithely mocked the Chinese for "overreacting" that democracies could handle pandemics better.

Yet what we have here are european doctors taking advice and instruction by Chinese doctors on how to beat this virus (happily, italy's curve has flattened due to Chinese expertise and instruction) in direct contrast to american doctors and nurses who are forced by their leaders to die at work so that america can save face.a

What the American/Australian/UK governments are doing now is blaming others so that they don't take the rap for being so clearly incompetent at handling this outbreak.

100s of 000s of americans are going to die even by best estimates and heads are going to have to roll for that; Revolution's in the air and the american people are going to demand change. It's no wonder the american elites are opting for a race war to save themselves.a

**tgoodenow** · April 02, 2020, 08:23 PM

Originally Posted by Exarch

the sheer fact that the Chinese locked down an entire city to contain the virus should have been warning enough but no, american, british and european leaders and governments blithely mocked the Chinese for "overreacting" that democracies could handle pandemics better.

Citation needed

**~~Exarch~~** · April 02, 2020, 09:57 PM

Regarding the myth that "china should have told us"- the fact was, China and the WHO did inform the White House and the USG blithely sat on its arse and did nothing-worse, they actually worked hard to prevent testing from being done.

One Chinese American scientist had to go behind USG back to confirm her suspicions that americans were infected with COVID-19, since she was told to sit down STDU by none other than the white supremacist government of the United States since they knew it was an out of the bag bioweapon which they had released:

How Seattle Flu Study defied federal government to test for coronavirus

Source: https://mynorthwest.com/1758762/coro...tle-flu-study/

Not to mention the history of coverups and government lying by the USG so as to save face rather than to save lives:

NAVY DISMISSES CAPTAIN WHO SOUNDED THE ALARM ON CORONAVIRUS, SIGNALING A WILLINGNESS TO STIFLE DISSENT

Alex Emmons

April 3 2020, 10:10 a.m.

THE U.S. NAVY has taken the extraordinary step of relieving the captain of the U.S.S. Theodore Roosevelt of his command over the aircraft carrier after he wrote a memo sounding the alarm on an exploding coronavirus infection on board the cramped quarters of his ship.
Acting Navy Secretary Thomas Modly on Thursday told reporters that Capt. Brett Crozier was guilty of extremely poor judgment in the middle of a crisis, and said that due to his broad circulation of the memo outside his chain of command, he had failed to safeguard that it did not leak. Crozier is no longer in command of the aircraft carrier, Modly said, though he is expected to keep his rank.

Read Our Complete CoverageThe Coronavirus CrisisI could reach no other conclusion but that Capt. Crozier had allowed the complexity of the challenge of the Covid breakout on the ship to overwhelm his ability to act professionally, when acting professionally was what was needed most at the time, Modly said.
The dismissal of a senior officer for raising concerns about the well-being of his crew is highly unusual, and signals that the Trump administration is willing to take extraordinary steps to silence internal dissent about its handling of the global pandemic.

Capt. Brett Crozier.
Photo: U.S. Navy

Last week, the aircraft carrier one of the Navys largest and most important ships was ordered to port in Guam after five sailors tested positive for Covid-19. Modly told reporters at the time that only about half of the 4,800 person crew would disembark, and that a full evacuation was impossible due to the need to guard the ship.
On Monday, Crozier sent a memo to the Navy sounding the alarm on the outbreak, saying the measure was insufficient to keep sailors on board the ship from dying. The memo was obtained and published by the San Francisco Chronicle and quickly became national news.
With the exceptions of a handful of senior officer staterooms, none of the berthing onboard a warship is appropriate for quarantine or isolation, Crozier wrote. We are not at war. Sailors do not need to die. If we do not act now, we are failing to properly take care of our most trusted asset our sailors.
According to figures released by the Department of Defense, confirmed Covid-19 cases in the military have more than tripled in the past week, from 280 last Thursday to 893 today.
In a press conference on Thursday, Modly said that the first time he read the letter was in the San Francisco Chronicle, remarking that it was Croziers hometown newspaper, though he said he had no information indicating that it was leaked by Crozier.
Modly also noted that Croziers commanding officer, the rear admiral in command of the carrier strike group was also on board the ship, just down the hall, and should have been notified about Croziers concerns before sending the letter.
It unnecessarily raised alarms with the families of our sailors and marines, with no plan to address those concerns, Modly said. It raised concerns about the operational capabilities and operational security of that ship, that could have emboldened our adversaries to seek advantage, and it undermined the chain of command.
Mandy Smithberger, the director of the Center for Defense Information at the Project on Government Oversight, called the firing outrageous, and said it sent the wrong signal about speaking up over concerns.
If hes being fired for making sure his sailors received the care they needed I think this is a gigantic mistake by the Navy, Smithberger said. We are hearing service members across the military think their commanders arent doing enough to protect them, and this sends a devastating signal that people who speak up will be crushed.
Democrats on the House Armed Service Committee, including Chairman Adam Smith, D.-Wash., released a joint statement Thursday expressing concern that the firing could have a chilling effect on others coming forward. Throwing the commanding officer overboard without a thorough investigation is not going to solve the growing crisis aboard the U.S.S. Theodore Roosevelt, the statement reads. Dismissing a commanding officer for speaking out on issues critical to the safety of those under their command discourages others from raising similar concerns.

Source: https://theintercept.com/2020/04/02/...onavirus-memo/

A note on how american disinformation; they don't rely on proof but rather insinuations and they repeat it ad nauseam relying on prejudice and underlying racism to make sure the point sticks eg it's why mouthpieces such as tim pool, steven molyneux, sargon of akkad, thernovich etc etc have been ramping up the "China must pay" theme for the past week, they need to convince the rest of the world to believe it otherwise people are going to figure it out sooner or later, that this was an american bioweapon which they had used against China, Russia and Iran only to have it backfire on them.

Why is it so

ing hard to defeat this virus? Why are the internal components of its genome bizarrely placed like they had been genetically engineered?

**ggggtotalwarrior** · April 02, 2020, 11:37 PM

So you're saying you believe without question the accusations being stealthily fanned by China, a fascist government, that are clearly an attempt to absolve themselves of repercussions for their own failure? I'm not implying America is perfect, as the government is clearly failing in its response to this, but you still believe that the US government which is full of absolute incompetent morons was capable of unleashing a biological weapon on Chinese soil? What incentive is there to do that? Use just an ounce of logic.

The amount of US-China trade that goes on on a daily basis is absurd. It's guaranteed that if you unleash a virus on China its going to get to America and tank the economy of both countries. The government currently in power in America is coming up on an election for which their entire slogan has revolved around their economic success. What reason would they have to trash the economy months before you can potentially be run out of office?

You claim to be against a tyrannical American government while being a mouthpiece for a government just as evil if not worse. You can't say things like "A note on how american disinformation; they don't rely on proof but rather insinuations and they repeat it ad nauseam relying on prejudice and underlying racism" when you're literally repeating a Chinese insinuation that Americans are responsible for a virus originating in their country. You can't

about American racism when the people you're claiming are victims of America are notoriously among the most racist people to walk the Earth. It sounds like you are trying to manically find any and every vague and conspiratorial link you can find to rationalize your obvious attempts to convince yourself that you're on "the right side" even when the evidence doesn't hold up.

**~~Exarch~~** · April 02, 2020, 11:54 PM

Originally Posted by ggggtotalwarrior

So you're saying you believe without question the accusations being stealthily fanned by China, a fascist government, that are clearly an attempt to absolve themselves of repercussions for their own failure? I'm not implying America is perfect, as the government is clearly failing in its response to this, but you still believe that the US government which is full of absolute incompetent morons was capable of unleashing a biological weapon on Chinese soil? What incentive is there to do that? Use just an ounce of logic.

The amount of US-China trade that goes on on a daily basis is absurd. It's guaranteed that if you unleash a virus on China its going to get to America and tank the economy of both countries. The government currently in power in America is coming up on an election for which their entire slogan has revolved around their economic success. What reason would they have to trash the economy months before you can potentially be run out of office?

You claim to be against a tyrannical American government while being a mouthpiece for a government just as evil if not worse. You can't say things like "A note on how american disinformation; they don't rely on proof but rather insinuations and they repeat it ad nauseam relying on prejudice and underlying racism" when you're literally repeating a Chinese insinuation that Americans are responsible for a virus originating in their country. You can't

about American racism when the people you're claiming are victims of America are notoriously among the most racist people to walk the Earth. It sounds like you are trying to manically find any and every vague and conspiratorial link you can find to rationalize your obvious attempts to convince yourself that you're on "the right side" even when the evidence doesn't hold up.

It is likely that this virus wasn't sanctioned by the Trump admin. but by white supremacists in the bureaucracy and the CIA; career technocrats and 'clash of civilisation' types eg pottinger, Pompeo etc

You do me a disservice, i only hate the American government, i love american people, especially blonde aryan american females who are the best females in the united states especially the ones who are size 8s.

**Akar** · April 03, 2020, 12:02 AM

Ahh yes, of course. The cabal of white supremacists in the U.S government. Like, for example, Trump and Pence?

**ggggtotalwarrior** · April 03, 2020, 12:28 AM

Originally Posted by Exarch

especially blonde aryan american females who are the best females in the united states especially the ones who are size 8s.

Alright NGL this is weird as

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But I concede America's government is entirely full of shady

s, but its ridiculous your first conclusion is to jump to the idea the American government is responsible for a virus because what, it's been hard to crack up til now? That proves it was biologically engineered? And if it was engineered like you seem to think, you believe it was more likely constructed by American engineers that Chinese ones? You don't think its at all suspicious that it broke out in Wuhan of all places, which just so happens to have the Wuhan Institute of Virology, China's only BSL-4 laboratory?

You're making maybe some rational points about America's shadiness then jumping ten steps further to immediately place this as an American attack while ignoring literally any other evidence against your "theories". You're not even willing to place a single skeptical eye towards the Chinese government which is just as

and clearly has the means to have unleashed the virus and the motive to pin it on America. If it was discovered they unleashed a deadly virus killing thousands of their people from a lab that's literally been studying SARS for a decade it'd be a massive scandal and cause major unrest, so of course they'd find a way to pin it on America. America has become such a boogey man for things it has done its become an effective scapegoat for anything. You're lapping up Chinese propaganda like a dog dying of thirst and its rather sad to see someone who clearly has the intellectual capacity to figure out whats going on here fall prey to such obvious methods of obfuscating the truth.