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Thread: [PROPOSAL] Extra moderators for the D&D forums.

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    Default [PROPOSAL] Extra moderators for the D&D forums.

    I have been an active member of the D&D for over five years now, and I have recently come to the conclusion that there are too few moderators to police the forum. To the best of my knowledge, there are only two active moderators (Abdülmecid and alhoon). Not only is this an insufficient number to properly manage all of the threads, it also unfairly overburdens the current staff. I had briefly raised this issue with Tango some months ago (after one particular thread got out of control), but since there has been no movement in terms of recruitment, I propose that at least one more moderator be added to the D&D. I further propose that at least one of the Post of the Fortnight managers be granted the privileges necessary to conduct the competition with ease (ie. the power to edit posts).

    With that in mind, and in addition to a general discussion about the need for more staff in the D&D, I further suggest that those with an interest in taking on moderator responsibilities in the D&D let themselves be known here. If there are any suitable candidates (ie. experienced citizens who're active in the D&D), then we could either move to a popular vote (election) or have the administrators empower their favourite choice.
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    Default Re: [PROPOSAL] Extra moderators for the D&D forums.

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    Default Re: [PROPOSAL] Extra moderators for the D&D forums.

    I can see the red text divine entity already coming and saying, 'you can't do that, talk about it in the moderation commentary'.

    There honestly looks like a rock and a hard place between competent and willing candidates for the DD. It's not an easy spot to recruit for both trusting people not to light a fire under the entire team's ass and luring outsiders in to deal with the most volatile part of the site short spikes of curial politics. If you can't draw internally, then you have the gatekeeping on people who aren't active there enough or might not understand the ways of the section. If moderators are added, a list of potentially capable people should be made, and then they should be asked (assuming this wasn't already done as I thought this was the standard procedure). I do think the section looks like it could use a few more hands, if only for peace of mind or a bit of diversity.

    And I think the problem will end up pretty apparent when you're already limiting candidates to experienced DD regulars. I think something would have slipped if moderation hasn't come up with the few candidates they'd be willing to swallow on those parameters and then approached them already.

    I'm a bit of a hard-ass on permission access, but I also wonder how necessary it is to give PotF managers straight up mod permissions. I'm sure they won't abuse it, but I still believe in access control, and Gig has made good points that posts are pretty accessible from what is submitted already. I don't feel strongly about it, though. I get the convenience arguments and I get anyone being a stickler on giving out those powers without a better case for why they're needed and how they're used.

    Moderators by election is probably never going to be allowed (having 'popular' in the name of how they get in already makes me weary, personally), and I'm sure at least some administrator or another will be looking at what comes of this if they don't shut it down or tell us to bug off. I thought I saw that moderators get in both from the goodwill of the moderation team in general and from the will of the hex overseeing them.

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    Default Re: [PROPOSAL] Extra moderators for the D&D forums.

    If we had an election, I envisage it being a nonbinding vote on the community's choice. The admins will always do as they will. In any case, I'm reasonably confident that there are some qualified people willing to take on the role, so I doubt that the current staff has sought to recruit them recently (if at all). This thread will at least allow us to see what support there is for more mods in the DD and if there is anyone willing to adopt the role. I could have posted this in the mod comm thread, but that is primarily for discussing moderator activity vis-a-vis infractions.

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    Default Re: [PROPOSAL] Extra moderators for the D&D forums.

    If memory serves (from before my time) then moderators were elected at some point. Didn't work out because the 'popularity' reason I think, eg appointing the goat to tend the garden.




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    Default Re: [PROPOSAL] Extra moderators for the D&D forums.

    With all that said, still think it's worth looking at and getting thoughts on. Might be another angle to this or some legitimate curveballs in self-nominated candidates.

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    Default Re: [PROPOSAL] Extra moderators for the D&D forums.

    Well I (we) could nominate candidates, but that would be pointless unless they actually want the job. That's why they should make themselves known.

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    Default Re: [PROPOSAL] Extra moderators for the D&D forums.

    I'm not sure if everyone with a shot would want to just put themselves out there or would even really check this section to find out, especially since it certainly isn't an official request.

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    Default Re: [PROPOSAL] Extra moderators for the D&D forums.

    Again, the point of this thread is primarily to draw attention to the fact that the D&D (in my view) is in need of more moderators. How we actually get there is largely irrelevant.

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    Default Re: [PROPOSAL] Extra moderators for the D&D forums.

    Librarian's content, yeah. Scriptorium, specifically. If Aex had mod powers for the competition before and that was an official thing, there should be a reason why there isn't precedence now or why that was an exception.

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    Default Re: [PROPOSAL] Extra moderators for the D&D forums.

    Support this in essence, though I agree with the other posters who have highlighted the difficulty of finding qualified and willing candidates.

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    Default Re: [PROPOSAL] Extra moderators for the D&D forums.

    There are plenty of qualified people who a regulars in the D&D (you included Ax).

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    Default Re: [PROPOSAL] Extra moderators for the D&D forums.

    There are definitely more than two active moderators assigned to the Discussion & Debate section, but of course that doesn't mean that any future increase in manpower is not welcome. However, as Calliagh mentioned earlier in a previous citizen proposal, any subject related to the staff of Total War Center lies outside the remit of the Curia. That being said, everyone is invited to propose potential candidates for the moderation branch and, more generally, possible improvements for the more efficient functioning of our community either here or in the Questions & Suggestions forum.

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    Default Re: [PROPOSAL] Extra moderators for the D&D forums.

    I support the initiative to add moderators to the D&D.

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    Default Re: [PROPOSAL] Extra moderators for the D&D forums.

    Quote Originally Posted by Abdülmecid I View Post
    There are definitely more than two active moderators assigned to the Discussion & Debate section, but of course that doesn't mean that any future increase in manpower is not welcome. However, as Calliagh mentioned earlier in a previous citizen proposal, any subject related to the staff of Total War Center lies outside the remit of the Curia. That being said, everyone is invited to propose potential candidates for the moderation branch and, more generally, possible improvements for the more efficient functioning of our community either here or in the Questions & Suggestions forum.
    I suppose you can treat this thread as a more of a generic proposal than as something binding (as I stated, the admins will do as they will). From my point of view, Aexodus and Legio would make good additions to the D&D moderation if you would consider them. I don't think there's a question that they're experienced enough and active enough. That said, there might be others who're interested too.
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    I propose Caduet, Heathen Hammer and Basil II




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    Hold on, Akar is clearly the right man for the job here!
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