a modding question about factions unite

[persian lords]

hi
i have very wierd question and dont know what to to so
what should i do to make for example right now first unite for roman is peasants but how can i make it hastati or even a cavalry unite ?
and something else whats AI faction recruit priority ? and how can i change it so they build a certain unite more
bcuz i know in Medieval II we can do such things
thank u

ps sorry for my bad english not my mother tongue

[persian lords]

nothing /

[persian lords]

still waiting .......
is it possible or not

[Solon de Atenas]

Hi Persian Lords, you don´t need to make double posting, you only need to be patient until someone that has the answer decide to invest their time to explain to you.

I don´t understand very well the first part of your question but I guess that is related or same as second part.

Until I know, how AI decide how to recruit specific units is based on code from different files.

1. descr_strat.txt: this file has a some lines on the top of the different faction entries which you can see this:

faction rome, fortified caesar
faction baktria, trader henry
...etc

The part underlines in bold indicates certain attitudes of the factions and may have a slight influence on their recruitment decision.


2. descr_formations_ai.txt: in my opinion, this is the most important file to manage this aspect. In this file you will find a sort of deployments and battle formations which AI will follow in different situations or/and per faction. I think that this is the way how macedon decide to recruit 9 units of phalanx instead of 9 units of companion cavalry. And is obviously why parthia recruit archery cavalry. Apparently, this file is describing how much units and types will be recruited, so it´s connected to export_descr_unit.txt, because you decide in this other file what kind of unit is every entry. For example, hoplite soldier use to be spearmen type. Look up this:

(from export_descr_unit.txt file)

type RTRA sparta infantry homoioi ;DORY
dictionary RTRA_sparta_infantry_homoioi
category infantry
class spearmen
voice_type Heavy_1
soldier sparta_infantry_homoioi, 30, 0, 1.3
officer sparta_officer_polemarchos
officer sparta_officer_semeiophoros
officer hellenistic_officer_auletes_heavy

...
etc

Apparently, this file is influencing how faction recruit different units on campaign. My advice is that you should find a tutorial about descr_formations_ai.txt before change something or you will get seveal CTDs going into battlemap.

3. export_descr_buildings.txt: I think that the last factor is related with this file and descr_strat.txt because even indicating factions how much types of every units they must recruit, they won´t unless you provide them with the proper buildings and conditions for do it. I mean that the city of Rome won´t recruit equites if you have not build the stables or cavalry barracks. In the same way, if the internal conditions to access the units are difficult, they will take more time to get this unit avalaible to recruit. Maybe the reason why roman are recruiting more peasant instead hastati is related with this. Maybe the neccessary barracks to provide the recruiting is not build yet on different cities and finally they recruit the units that they can...

I have considered this three factors. The second one need deeper knoweledge, so I recommend to begin with the third one. Anyway, I think that could be more and maybe another member can give you more or better information. And don´t worry, my english it could be better as well.

Good luck and tell me if something of this is working.

=)

[persian lords]

hi
sorry for not being patient
about second part of my question i sorta understand what so said and i will try in game and will see that i can implant it correctly
and about first part that it was not clear
imagine a roman city like capua it was upgrade to large city and all building is complete so u can recuit all troops
so in recruitment page first is peasants second is town watch third is archers and so on till hastati is like 8th or 9th in line
my question is here how can i make a 9th hastati first in recruitment bar ?
honesty i dont know how can i say it any other way as i said my english is very bad
thank u

[Solon de Atenas]

About second part of your question, first try to upgrade the roman barracks buildings on the different cities in descr_strat.txt file. Then, you will get on campaign more cities allowing the recruiment of better units.

About the first part, I understand that you want to change the position of the roman Hastati on recruiment bar. Well... I´ve never tried to change that, but giving you a crazy solution, I would change the position of Hastati on export_descr_units.txt. My argument is based on the next reason: if you change the position of any unit entry on EDU (upper or lower position), in custom battle menu, you will see that they are organized by type and by position. If you have too much units in the bar menu, the units entries on EDU´s lower places won´t appear on game screen.

If put Hastati entry on upper EDU positio doesn´t work, try to do it on export_descr_buildings.txt in recruiment lines with the same criteria (upper/lower position). If this second option works, don´t forget to change the line on every building level (muster_field, provincial_barracks, etc).

Hope that is helpful

=)

[persian lords]

i did changed its position in EDU and EDB but nothing change
i think their position is sorted in some other place

[Gigantus]

Recruitment Bar - this is sorted first by unit category (infantry etc) then by type (missile), mercenaries are sorted the same way but separate. The units in the column are then sorted by their recruitment cost.
All of the data is read from the EDU file.

[persian lords]

ok i tried it all but i sorta find it
with lowering Cost for custom battles it show first
honesty i didnt saw that coming

[Gigantus]

Ah yes, my bad - it's custom battle cost, not recruitment cost.

[persian lords]

Solon de Atenas and Gigantus
thank u