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    Default Re: SURPRISED; WHY is 3K forums so DEAD relative to other TW titles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Huberto View Post
    The number of people playing a single game day after day on Steam and $ earned from said game are two different things. We know Rome 2 sold millions and 3K is the fastest selling game to date. I suppose CA could just go with the GW audience and try to drag everyone else along but that actually doesn't make sense because of how well the historical games sell. I'm on Reddit almost every day and the "Empire 2 when?" or "Med 3 when?" posts are VERY common. Back when I used to check there were almost always more folks playing historical than WH titles. Right now for example 20:00 US Eastern Time 41,000 are playing historical and 27,000 the Warhammers.
    Returning to old statement....New DLC dropped yesterday and WH2 got all time high peak. Even 3K is unable to break serious numbers with DLCs yet WH can. Just saying...And we will see what Wh3 will bring...

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    Default Re: SURPRISED; WHY is 3K forums so DEAD relative to other TW titles?

    It's the battles. They are so stale that there is nothing to talk about. If 3k had dropped in 2010 we'd be raving about it non-stop. But CA has long stopped improving battles in terms of positioning, tactics and manoeuvre and has instead worked on the spreadsheet simulator side of things. Exchanging spreadsheet data is boring.

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    Default Re: SURPRISED; WHY is 3K forums so DEAD relative to other TW titles?

    Maybe a good chunk of the players are chinese, so they don't post in an english speaking forum

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    Default Re: SURPRISED; WHY is 3K forums so DEAD relative to other TW titles?

    But realistically what kind of mod would work in this game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ngazi View Post
    But realistically what kind of mod would work in this game?
    There's quite a few. Most of the big ones are for characters or unit overhauls. There's some really nice ones that add character biographies and historical weapon models.

    On the general overhaul side, there's our SFO mod, which is primarily KAM's balancing with some changes to the Han campaigns to remove some of the more problematic elements and make progression and empire development more serious. There's TROM, which is more playing up the Romance and elemental balance angle. Then there's UAD which is a strict historical overhaul that's mainly focused on recreating the historical scenario and mechanics, which ends up feeling very much like a Rise of Three Kingdoms throwback remade in TW:3K.
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    Default Re: SURPRISED; WHY is 3K forums so DEAD relative to other TW titles?

    Using TWC to see whether if a game (like 3K) is popular or not is certainly wrong in 2020. Hell, I guess it's already wrong since 2015 already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LestaT View Post
    Using TWC to see whether if a game (like 3K) is popular or not is certainly wrong in 2020. Hell, I guess it's already wrong since 2015 already.
    Reddit is not the answer either since the TW subreddit is 90% memes. And I love Reddit.

    Game stats are the way to judge a game. And it looks like WH is the most popular.
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    Default Re: SURPRISED; WHY is 3K forums so DEAD relative to other TW titles?

    If I were to wager a guess, it's because of the mods. There aren't any large overhaul mods for Three Kingdoms like EB or Stainless Steel. We saw that in Shogun 2, after all the large overhaul mods were made and the ones that are still being made are moved to Discord, the Subforum is basically dead. The only reason why I check the subforum is because of the tutorials for my submod of Total FoTS and whether or not I could do some large things when scripting. Interestingly enough, there still hasn't been a good guide to scripting on the Shogun 2 forum, but that's off-topic.

    Additionally, Three Kingdoms seems to be a bingeable game instead of a Long-Play game. Like, in the beginning of every campaign, I just love how polished and how the mechanics in the game are mostly balanced. This goes a complete 180 when I get to King and I have to conquer the other 2 kings because I then complain about how they made a worse version of Realm Divide. In Shogun 2, at least you were able to easily defend your settlements if they were under attack via chokepoints and zone of control or just recruiting a few units. In Three Kingdoms, your econ gets screwed so quickly during king to the point that of annoyance and campaign quit. Also, in the past few months, they have done some stuff with the morale which makes battles a lot quicker.

    I really dislike the battles to be quicker because my frontline disintegrates and the perfect hammer charge that I was setting up just doesn't have its anvil anymore

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    Default Re: SURPRISED; WHY is 3K forums so DEAD relative to other TW titles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Basileos Leandros I View Post
    Reddit is not the answer either since the TW subreddit is 90% memes. And I love Reddit.

    Game stats are the way to judge a game. And it looks like WH is the most popular.
    Not even talking about Reddit. I went there once in a while for other stuff, never TW games.

    The official forum still have traffic for 3K. Same with FB groups. In any case, TWC is no longer the place to find information about never TW games. The train has left post Rome II.

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