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    Quote Originally Posted by mishkin View Post
    they are greeks.
    Throwing stones was invented by greeks. They`ve invented everything!
    Sorry ioannis76, couldn`t resist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heathen Hammer View Post
    Wait, so you are telling us that China's socialist government didn't mismanage its healthcare system? Or that its socialist government hasn't tried to hide the outbreak instead of actively working on preventing it from spreading, much like other socialist regimes did in similar situations?
    See? You're making it way to obvious that you're unable to generate merit for your arguments. You're completely disregarding what I'm saying to keep on parroting the same phrases.


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    they are greeks.
    How dare you? I think you were supposed to say people from other side of the Aegean...
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    Total American COVID-19 cases close in on 70,000; American cases will exceed Italian and Chinese cases by week's end. This is a tragedy, especially since US leaders had more than 2 months of warning and preparation and warnings from their intel to act, only to do nothing.

    AND on top of that, the American SECSTATE Pompeo wasted precious time at the G-7 trying to dead-name SARS-Cov-2 into the "Wuhan virus" because he knows when american deaths tick over into the 100,000s, the American people are going to want to blame someone and it better not be this administration; no, not the administration that decided to allow americans to spread it to everyone else back in feb.

    Hell, i don't even know why i even bother. Back in Feb, Americans or at least the ones on twitter/reddit/4chan/twcenter etc were crass enough to laugh at the dead and dying in Wuhan, guess there's nothing to laugh about when it's right at your doorstep, not when it's white people, young white people who are doing the dead and dying.
    https://www.nytimes.com/video/nyregi...al-queens.html
    Where cases have been reported


    It would actually be really ironic if the conspiracy theory that the americans planted the virus in wuhan turned out to be true; can you imagine being the CIA Director or in this case, Mike Pompeo plotting to release a deadly bioengineered virus into China only to have it devastate your own country and people and watching China rise like a phoenix?

    No wonder the USG is trying to hard to start WW3 with china at this time, it's either the next American Revolution: Bastille Reprise or racial holy war.

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    btw, and this is really only an observable feature of anglo societies like the US, Australia and the UK, but a society that actively laughs at the sick and displays zero compassion towards those struggling through disease, as we saw in feb can expect no sympathy when corona-chan and Father Nurgle turns their attentions to the anglo sphere.

    In the meantime, look to the Serbian President for a visual of the future:
    Last edited by Exarch; March 26, 2020 at 05:44 AM.

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    Must be galling for conservatives to realise that in a major crisis such as a Pandemic, their chosen economic system will kill us all...
    Don’t need anything more than the wrong kind of capitalism to kill capitalism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exarch View Post

    On other things which didn't happen....
    Did China suddenly not arrest those doctors for trying to warn about the disease? Thats a cover up. You also just admitted officals and leaders in Huebi were dismissed over this. Contradicting yourself now?


    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...-blame/608332/

    The idea there was no cover up is ridi



    LOL, i'll bet you were one of those americans who lapped up the video of parents making their kids say the pledge of allegiance on their driveways. Hate to break it to ya, but your fascist nazi government in the US would much rather make coronavirus info a state secret so sharing them is a capital crime:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/27/u...rus-pence.html

    The very same USG and US institutions and American culture who don't give a about health workers contracting COVID-19 and dying?
    Did you read the article? Tightening control of health information and coordinating health information among health officials and government officials is not censorship. Its definitely not the US arresting doctors and covering up the outbreak like China.

    Source: https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...orq-story.html

    Not to mention American companies which fire nurses who speak out against dangerous working conditions:
    https://theintercept.com/2020/03/24/...s-coronavirus/

    And this from recently, which was mysteriously not reported by the Free Press and only reported by the Chinese media:
    https://twitter.com/globaltimesnews/...50725869477888

    Sure do love that freedom you keep touting on about; too bad you have to be dead to enjoy it. Maybe you can explain to me how a dead nurse is better at treating COVID-19 patients over a Chinese nurse in full Chinese made PPE?

    Speaking of which, Trump is threatening to drop the quarantine in 2 weeks for Easter break so families and americans can go to church and presumably give each other coronavirus and kill each other. You think that sounds like a stable genius?
    So one article about nurses who were threatened to be fired and a twitter post about the lack of PPE equipment in the US. How does this compare to China arresting doctors and covering up the outbreak?

    Btw China had a shortage of masks too during its outbreak: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51363132

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    Quote Originally Posted by mishkin View Post
    they are greeks.
    What is the source for that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PointOfViewGun View Post
    See? You're making it way to obvious that you're unable to generate merit for your arguments. You're completely disregarding what I'm saying to keep on parroting the same phrases.




    How dare you? I think you were supposed to say people from other side of the Aegean...
    Speaking of which, this video came from Turkey, where the covid cases are said (by the government) to be relatively few:
    https://www.instagram.com/p/B-I8OxnF9iG/

    Turkey speaks of epilepsy cases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Infidel144 View Post
    What is the source for that?
    a guy in twitter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heathen Hammer View Post
    Not really, since your quoted statement has nothing to do with the discussion, since we are not discussing which brand of collectivist authoritarianism is the most woke.
    That makes absolutely no logical sense. If a comment has nothing to do with you, why post a reply? The minute you reply, then congratulations, you're part of the discussion. Also wanting to control and dictate what other users are allowed to post is pretty authoritarian...

    But nevertheless, my point about far-right types having an automated, knee-jerk response of "But... but... communism..." to any criticism of American style hyper-capitalism stands. You really have no concept that there is a whole range of political philosophies that exist in the political spectrum between communism and fascism.

    Quote Originally Posted by Heathen Hammer View Post
    Both public and private healthcare systems were overwhelmed with pandemic of Chinese virus that was caused by socialist Chinese government.
    OK, and the response of the Chinese was coordinated by? That's right. The government. Citizens were not asked to pay their life savings to feed the share-holders of a faceless corporate entity. They were not forced to remortgage their homes simply because they fell ill. In times of crisis such as these, every government resorts to socialised medicine to resolve the problem.

    However I'm sure you'll be refusing any government healthcare or economic compensation for loss of earnings because... socialism. I'm also certain that should you fall ill to this awful virus, you'll be volunteering to hand over your life savings in return for treatment. You'd be a massive hypocrite if you did anything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mishkin View Post
    a guy in twitter
    So, no source...
    You just made it up.
    Why would you do that?

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    All that ranting, and still failure to address that leftists are proclaiming "failure of capitalism" from a crisis caused by major external factors, while ignoring that socialist regimes function much worse without external cause and due to systematic internal factors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infidel144 View Post
    So, no source...
    You just made it up.
    Why would you do that?
    To piss me off. The point is, if one were to look at information about the city this took place, one would reach his/her conclusions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLeft View Post
    Haha...

    Right wingers with the inability to comprehend any middle ground between Nazism and Communism in 3... 2... 1...
    Quote Originally Posted by TheLeft View Post
    OK, and the response of the Chinese was coordinated by? That's right. The government. Citizens were not asked to pay their life savings to feed the share-holders of a faceless corporate entity. They were not forced to remortgage their homes simply because they fell ill. In times of crisis such as these, every government resorts to socialised medicine to resolve the problem.

    However I'm sure you'll be refusing any government healthcare or economic compensation for loss of earnings because... socialism. I'm also certain that should you fall ill to this awful virus, you'll be volunteering to hand over your life savings in return for treatment. You'd be a massive hypocrite if you did anything else.
    Are you under the impression that capitalism = anarchy? Inability to tell middle ground 321 and all that. Are socialist economies still functioning during this pandemic? No? Oh dear, guess they're in the same boat as der capitalisten. A central govt taking control in a crisis... is what it's supposed to do.

    But yes, Virgin Capitalist USA healthcare has a lot to learn from Chad Socialist Italy where older people might now be left to die lolz
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    https://nypost.com/2020/03/26/new-yo...ne-day-to-385/

    There were 100 dead in New York with tests proving that 34% of the population is affected. Its the Milan scenario. 9 11 will become a small sad adventure compared to this

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    The elephant in the room is that cronyism (be it baling out of banks or over-regulation on behalf of big pharma) is inherently socialist, since it requires government intervention in the economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ioannis76 View Post
    To piss me off. The point is, if one were to look at information about the city this took place, one would reach his/her conclusions.
    Be careful with your conclusions, because they can be really wrong, just bs based on silly prejudices. I am very sorry to inform you that the assailants were not immigrants. Watch the video, the assailants are 100% Spanish
    Last edited by mishkin; March 26, 2020 at 01:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surgeon View Post
    A central govt taking control in a crisis... is what it's supposed to do.
    So American style minimal government, hyper-capitalism doesn't work in a crisis? Thanks for confirming that I was right.

    Quote Originally Posted by Surgeon View Post
    But yes, Virgin Capitalist USA healthcare has a lot to learn from Chad Socialist Italy where older people might now be left to die lolz
    I'm sorry but can you translate that into English?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLeft View Post
    So American style minimal government, hyper-capitalism doesn't work in a crisis? Thanks for confirming that I was right.

    I'm sorry but can you translate that into English?
    lol? It's literally working in front of your eyes. Sorry, did something change about how USA runs its economy? Man, must've missed it.

    Context to the second part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heathen Hammer View Post
    The elephant in the room is that cronyism (be it baling out of banks or over-regulation on behalf of big pharma) is inherently socialist, since it requires government intervention in the economy.
    The elephant in the room is you lying about things associated with socialism. No, cronyism is not inherently socialist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PointOfViewGun View Post
    The elephant in the room is you lying about things associated with socialism. No, cronyism is not inherently socialist.
    Government intervention in economy is socialist. Cronyism is socialist by the very definition of the term itself.

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