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The risks are predictable. Per CDC's report, only over a thousand people developed myocarditis, a treatable condition, with 177 million people vaccinated. That's a risk of 0.00085%.
Similarly, out of 6.8 doses of J&J vaccine, there were only 6 cases of CVST. That's a risk of 0.000088%.
The risks are known and minimal. What's unpredictable is the long term effects of COVID19.
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Cells report Medicine, 9 July -Sputnik V Vaccine Elicits Seroconversion and Neutralizing after a single dose.
--Highlights
-First dose of Sputnik V results in 94% seroconversion rate in naïve individuals
-A second dose greatly increases antibody titers and neutralizing capacity
-One dose in seropositive individuals elicits higher titers than two doses in naïve
-There is no evident benefit of using a second dose in previously infected individuals
Limitations -This study shows high humoral responses after Sputnik V administration using a cohort of 288 volunteers from over 200,000 vaccinated healthcare workers. However, an efficacy study has not been carried out yet and will be necessary to assess vaccine protection in the population and to define correlates with antibody titers. In addition, follow up studies are necessary to evaluate duration of the immune response.
Neutralizing antibody levels are highly predictive of immune ...
.Understanding the relationship between measured immunity and clinical protection from SARS-CoV-2 infection. To compare neutralization titers across studies, we determined the mean and standard deviation (on a log scale) of the neutralization titer in published data from seven vaccine studies (mRNA-1273, NVX-CoV2373, BNT162b2, rAd26-S+rAd5-S, ChAdOx1 nCoV-19, Ad26.COV2.S and CoronaVac) and one convalescent study
Check the figures 1,2,3
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immune protection from infection may wane with time as neutralization levels decline, and that booster immunization may be required within a year. However, protection from severe infection may be considerably more durable given that lower levels of response may be required or alternative responses (such as cellular immune responses) may play a more prominent role.
Our results are consistent with studies of both influenza and seasonal coronavirus infection, for which reinfection is possible 1 year after the initial infection, although it usually results in mild infection. Similarly, after influenza virus vaccination, protective efficacy is thought to decline by around 7% per month.
The estimated neutralization level for protection from severe infection is approximately sixfold lower than the level required to protect from any symptomatic infection. Thus, a higher level of protection against severe infection is expected for any given level of vaccine efficacy against mild SARS-CoV-2 infection. Assuming that this relationship remains constant over time, it appears probable that immunity to severe infection may be much more durable than overall immunity to any infection.
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Based on VAERS as of 25 June 2021, there are 6985 CoV-19 vaccines deaths reported & over 23,257 hospitalisations reported due to CoV-19 vaccines; Pfizer; Moderna; JNJ.
By comparisons, from 1999 until 31 December 2019; VEARS received 3167 adult death reports (158 per year) for all vaccines combined.
Therefore, the CoV-19 mass vaccination is associated with at least 39-fold increase annualised vaccine deaths reported to VAERS.
The European database of suspected drug reactions reports is EudraVigilance (*note this only includes 27 countries that are part of the EU; not the whole of Europe).
Reported: 15,472 deaths + 1.5 million injured (50% serious), due to Covid-19 shots.
https://vaccineimpact.com/2021/15472-dead-1-5-million-injured-50-serious-reported-in-european-unions-database-of-adverse-drug-reactions-for-covid-19-shots/
Here is the summary data through June 19, 2021.
...At this point looking like the genetic CoV-19 vaccines are unsafe for general use imo. :-<
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This is garbage. You are using a random user submitted data pool to use correlation as if its causation.Originally Posted by Stario
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A study done by Chilean scientists is claiming that the Lambda variant is a result of the Sinovac vaccine:
https://michaelsavage.com/terrifying...ambda-variant/
hoi polloi
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No that is not in fact the claim of the paper. What actually says is the the Sinovac is vary much less effective against the Lambda variant. Although It seems also to focus on stopping transmission it has no data on severity of effects, hospitalization or death.
Your link is silly in how it characterized the study. Everyone making vaccines is mulling boosters given the new variants.
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Conclusions: Our results indicate that mutations present in the spike protein of the Lambda
variant of interest confer increased infectivity and immune escape from neutralizing antibodies
elicited by CoronaVac. These data reinforce the idea that massive vaccination campaigns in
countries with high SARS-CoV-2 circulation must be accompanied by strict genomic
surveillance allowing the identification of new isolates carrying spike mutations and
immunology studies aimed to determine the impact of these mutations in immune escape and
vaccines breakthrough
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You….do know what “confer increased infectivity and immune escape from neutralizing antibodies elicited by CoronaVac” means, right?
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Oh boy...
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Yep. You do realize giving a weak vaccine is worse than not giving a a vaccine, right?
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No. A weak vaccine is better than not giving a vaccine.
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Meanwhile,
Dutch PM apologizes for easing coronavirus measures too soon
But...
Boris Johnson confirms all Covid-19 restrictions in UK will end ...
I’m not surprised, COVID-19: The Delta variant is now spreading uncontrollably ...Johnson told reporters that the move will eliminate mandates to wear masks in public places, social distancing rules... while hospitalisations and deaths will continue to rise
Eyeing the obvious risks, Mr Johnson has reverted to the libertarian instincts that he has displayed at a number of critical moments in this pandemic - from the reluctance to introduce a "circuit breaker" last autumn, to only calling off a Christmas relaxation of restrictions at the last minute in December.
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Re: Coronavirus outbreak - From China to the World.
The cope from the vaccine nazis for the past six months has been absolutely hilarious. The ABCDLMAOP "variants" which have likewise failed to contribute to the number of dead bodies in the street this late in the game is absolutely hilarious. One would think that those indoctrinated to believe that vaccines are "scientific" and authoritative would actually have some evidence to point to other than their own failed policies, but I guess that is the nature of propogandists. Thank goodness they're the lab rats in all of this rushed vaccine nonsense.
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Is this an other case of "it doesn't exist if i haven't seen it"? It sure looks like one.
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Not garbage at all IMO. The CoV-19 mass vaccination is correlated with at least 39-fold increase in annualised vaccine death reported to VAERS. So unless proven otherwise I.E. we can be sure beyond reasonable doubt that causation does NOT indeed exist, the investigational, genetic CoV-19 vaccines are not safe for general use IMO.
Now I am not telling you not to get vaccinated, by all means, go ahead get your experimental-jab, after all, we need guineapigs to further shed light on this newly emerging relationship that is correlation v causation.
With that said what is being reported on both VAERS + EudraVigilance could be just the tip of the iceberg, or perhaps there is no causation whatsoever exists, we just don't know at this time as we haven't yet done all the necessary research.
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One thing you said is right. We can be sure beyond reasonable doubt that causation does NOT indeed exist. It's not just that a close examination of the database shows how problematic its data is but you are also lying about death numbers related to that database. Case in point being the vaccination death number you gave is not true for COVID19 vaccines but for all vaccines. They include deaths related to suicide, accidents and whatnot. Many of the deaths with COVID19 shots are of those people with serious medical conditions, not the general public. What you're doing is a really poor attempt at data manipulation.
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More incredibly disturbing information about what the vaccine does to red blood cells in the circulatory system.
Warning. These are very disturbing pictures. If you've had the vaccine don't look. It's too late. For those who haven't had the vaccine you may want to watch this before you take the jab:
https://ncrenegade.com/breaking-disc...ific-findings/
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Re: Coronavirus outbreak - From China to the World.
Oh no what am I going to do
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It's well known that drug resistant strains of virus are a direct result of people not finishing the regiment of prescription because they started feeling better. A weak vaccine distributed to masses has the equivalent effect. The Sinovac is a weak vaccine.
On the issue of red blood cell damage, I've read several articles that have described damage to the outer wall of red blood cells similar to what described in the video link. Hey, if you want, go ahead and take an experimental drug. Drug companies have been trying to get the FDA to approve RNA vaccines since 2001...and they still haven't been approved.
But hey, now the drug companies finally get to make some money from all the research expenditure.
In drug trials you usually have two groups. Those that get the drug and those that don't.
hoi polloi
Re: Coronavirus outbreak - From China to the World.
Post a peer reviewed link in a credible journal.On the issue of red blood cell damage, I've read several articles that have described damage to the outer wall of red blood cells similar to what described in the video link. Hey, if you want, go ahead and take an experimental drug. Drug companies have been trying to get the FDA to approve RNA vaccines since 2001...and they still haven't been approved.
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But if the cause be not good, the king himself hath a heavy reckoning to make, when all those legs and arms and heads, chopped off in battle, shall join together at the latter day and cry all 'We died at such a place; some swearing, some crying for surgeon, some upon their wives left poor behind them, some upon the debts they owe, some upon their children rawly left.
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Ahhh but the peer review process is flawed and not credible. The conspiracy is cyclic.
Jeez Conon...
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