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    Idaho is officially under crisis standards of care statewide and is triaging due to lack of resources and crowding of facilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EmperorBatman999 View Post
    I hate this trend on Reddit and the internet at large. It indicates the worst excesses of humanity in our current age, where cheap Schadenfreude has replaced, and has even precluded, any modicum of empathy or sympathy for the sick and the dead, and their living families. Nobody deserves to have death visited upon them in this way.

    It shows the internet is making this a colder, less humane world. HCA and other online social spaces has abstracted the concept of human death and suffering to the point where the suffering of others become meaningless except for as entertainment. This trend needs to be stopped.
    Yeah, I noticed that corporate journos/social media astroturfers are spamming those "antivaxxer/conservative radio host learning his lesson after getting covid" stories, and most of them aren't really sourced and just basically give off very strong "and then everyone clapped" vibes. Also its people that can't shut up about how "empathetic" they are that simultaneously wish death upon people that disagree with them. At the end of the day a lot of those neoliberal pro-government folks are in on it simply because of their own mental health issues or some kind of personal inadequacies that they need to compensate for. At least that's the impression I've been getting from viewing stuff that they post. They certainly don't care about being safe or even if their stance is logical and rational, as long as they are on what they perceive as "the right side".
    This will probably end very badly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coughdrop addict View Post
    https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/

    Full of stories of those who followed the typical ant-vaxxer pattern:

    1: Covid is a HOAX by the Jews/Globalist elites/Obama to undermine Strong Daddy.

    2: Those getting vaccinated are SOOOOOO dumb! I'm too smart to get The Mark of The Beast/Bill Gates track microchips/Hillary mind control drugs!

    3: Did you know vaccines are a form of Marxism?

    4: The vaxxed are all going to die in less than a year. I'm going to burn the bodies with a smile on my face.

    5: I don't feel so good.

    6: How can I be sick?! It's a hoax! A HOAX! No worse than a cold!

    7: OH GOD IT HURTS! I CAN'T BREATHE! WHY IS THIS HAPPENING TO ME?

    8: This is his/her family. He/she left us with tens of thousands of dollars in unpaid medical bills and funeral expenses. Give us money please! What? No it's not socialism when WE want free money!
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    Like any other country, we have our small share of vaccine skeptics, and vaccine conspiracy theories. But every time I open an international newspaper and see the discussion that is going on around the world about whether it is necessary to make the vaccine obligatory or not, whether testing should be obligatory or not, I am amazed and say, how is it possible that here, in a little country with 10 million inhabitants this question has never been asked, because it was never necessary to discuss whether it should be obligatory because everyone felt it was their civic duty to do so?
    Portuguese most pro vaccine
    The Portuguese are the Europeans who most consider that the benefits of the vaccine against Covid-19 outweigh the risks (87 percent) and who most defend the “civic duty” of vaccination (86 percent), according to a Eurobarometer survey.
    With Portugal number one in the world for vaccines, the prime-minister has praised the vaccination process in Portugal but stresses the importance of individual protection measures.
    A comment from an annoyed and angry denier,
    "...I hope the vaccinated will survive, especially since there seems to be so many of them in beloved Portugal
    Another comment,
    "It should come as no surprise that the otherwise pleasant group of people calling themselves Portuguese, agree that the experimental vaccine program has been a resounding success. Do not forget, Mr. António Egas Moniz´infamous lobotomy originated on these shores!”

    At that,I cannot but laugh.

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    One should remember that at the time when Egas Moniz developed his idea, no efficacious therapies existed to treat agitated and aggressive patients, as many of them were condemned to stay in psychiatric institutions for the rest of their lives. Chlorpromazine appeared a couple of years later (1950) and leucotomy practically disappeared in the following years.
    The ignorant clown conveniently forgot to say that Egaz Moniz’s cerebral angiography originated on these shores and a new era of medicine was opened- cerebral tumors, aneurysms, arterio-venous malformations, carotid and other arterial occlusions were identified, and continues today to be the golden standard for the study of cerebral circulation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heathen Hammer View Post
    Yeah, I noticed that corporate journos/social media astroturfers are spamming those "antivaxxer/conservative radio host learning his lesson after getting covid" stories, and most of them aren't really sourced and just basically give off very strong "and then everyone clapped" vibes. Also its people that can't shut up about how "empathetic" they are that simultaneously wish death upon people that disagree with them. At the end of the day a lot of those neoliberal pro-government folks are in on it simply because of their own mental health issues or some kind of personal inadequacies that they need to compensate for. At least that's the impression I've been getting from viewing stuff that they post. They certainly don't care about being safe or even if their stance is logical and rational, as long as they are on what they perceive as "the right side".
    This will probably end very badly.
    It is especially disingenuous when the people who laugh at the dead and dying are the same people who support every single public health policy because "We need to save every life possible." You can't value the sanctity of life while also taunting the person that loses theirs. It almost is as if it was never about preserving human life in the first place, but instead using it as a moral mask to hide one's own depravity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmperorBatman999 View Post
    I hate this trend on Reddit and the internet at large. It indicates the worst excesses of humanity in our current age, where cheap Schadenfreude has replaced, and has even precluded, any modicum of empathy or sympathy for the sick and the dead, and their living families. Nobody deserves to have death visited upon them in this way.

    It shows the internet is making this a colder, less humane world. HCA and other online social spaces has abstracted the concept of human death and suffering to the point where the suffering of others become meaningless except for as entertainment. This trend needs to be stopped.
    Tha its pretty cold. Doesn't matter if people posted brain-dead dangerous and abusive crap, dancing on their graves is still lacking in class.

    While it may not be the worst excess of our age (terrorism, Chinese "ethnic erasures" etc seem worse to me), I agree the trend of online abuse and polarisation has made society worse. The same platforms have allowed for interesting new cultures and PoVs to flourish too, I mean I like this place despite annoying people disagreeing with (how annoying) and correcting when I am wrong (even worse!).

    In the US the followers of Clinton and Trump in particular have been complicit in this trend online and IRL. Crudity, hypocrisy, flagrant tail-wagging-doggism and contempt for the truth in favour of vicious point scoring. They are not Robinsons Crusoes though.

    In my country places like twitter have become bullying platforms generally left-leaning voices ( recently a couple of non-controversial journos at the ABC got bullied out of their jobs because they dared question someone's stan), Facebook is abused not just for its intended purpose of harvesting data to control people, but also to spread absolute rubbish, and the commercial media likewise rings with the strident tones of Mr Murdoch's current whim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    Tha its pretty cold. Doesn't matter if people posted brain-dead dangerous and abusive crap, dancing on their graves is still lacking in class.

    In my country places like twitter have become bullying platforms generally left-leaning voices ( recently a couple of non-controversial journos at the ABC got bullied out of their jobs because they dared question someone's stan), Facebook is abused not just for its intended purpose of harvesting data to control people, but also to spread absolute rubbish, and the commercial media likewise rings with the strident tones of Mr Murdoch's current whim.
    In Victoria, we have it on TV adverts. The State Gov has been running morality tales with real people gasping for breath in hospital talking about how they wish they had listened and got vaccinated.
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    FDA panel member comes out against covid vaccines:

    https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...ore_often.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by antaeus View Post
    In Victoria, we have it on TV adverts. The State Gov has been running morality tales with real people gasping for breath in hospital talking about how they wish they had listened and got vaccinated.
    The Victorian government has taken the view people are mostly stupid (I mean I'm stupid, so he' at least partly right) and need a mixture of firm clarity and a few jump scares to keep them safe.

    Just saw on the news tonight Unions are concerned they are being infiltrated by anti-lockdown conspiracists intent on using union muscle to attack public order.

    https://www.abc.net.au/7.30/sally-mc...re-of/13550406

    Union leadership has been attacked by elements of its own followers for agreeing to mandatory vaccinations (after the building industry enjoyed extremely generous conditions for over a year: our current premier owes them a favour clearly).

    The Union leader in question is John Setka, a colourful identity who has defied state and Federal leaders for decades (including one minor squabble where Union bosses and Master Builders allegedly invited rival bikie gangs to assist negotiations). There are numerous interesting stories about him best repeated off camera and away from witnesses. Whoever biffed John Setka in the head with a crate is going to have a bad time.
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    Unions are being "infiltrated" by *gasps* working class? The horror.
    It does look like vaccine mandates, on par with "let them eat cake" attitude from progressive left/neoliberal governments does seem to push working class away from the left, while simultaneously mobilizing it towards more politically active stance.
    Australians certainly have it the worst in terms of irrational harsh lockdowns and downright tyrannical rules and regulations, and I won't be surprised of some Maidan-style event happening there in near future, given how Australian government remains tonedeaf and strictly oriented to service pandemic profiteers, while ignoring its own population's concerns.

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    Setka is not exactly someone you would trifle with for sure.

    Seems Dan Andrews was looking for an excuse, and the CFMEU gave it to him.

    I'm a bit suss of the union-infiltration story - it's a convenient excuse that seems to be coming from Setka himself (as a control mechanism methinks - very Soviet (in a nod to Heathen)), and it's not like tradies need much of an excuse to pick a fight with the police... There probably was a few non-tradie anti-lockdown/vaxers in that protest. But that movement is full of high vis at the best of times so I think there is plenty of crossover.

    Bit stink though. Tradies go to bed early and get up early... Plenty will be waking up this morning to discover they now have no pay through no fault of their own.
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