Coronavirus outbreak - From China to the World.

[Cope]

Public health measures borrowed from the Chinese Communist Party.



As it turns out, it wasn't a particularly "effective policy" either.

[Lord Thesaurian]

Public health measures borrowed from the Chinese Communist Party.

As it turns out, it wasn't a particularly "effective policy" either.

We were warned.

Experience hath shewn that even under the best forms of government, those with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.

When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.

[Coughdrop addict]

You know what else the Chinese Communist Party endorses? Breathing. So if you're not turning blue you're a communist, correct?

Reaching for what someone long dead said about the political situation of their time and trying to apply it as a "gotcha" argument to current issues is a weak appeal to authority that exposes one's argument as utterly lacking any standing. By the way, Washington had quarantines and lockdowns in the continental army to prevent smallpox from running wild. Does that mean Washington was a communist?

It has nothing to do with freedom or you being persecuted for whatever the reason you are told everyone is mean to you today. The reason the lockdowns were so opposed on the right, often to the point of violence, is that conservatism has no concern for the wider society or anyone but the self, and the modern conservative has led such an easy, carefree life that he thinks mild inconvenience is suffering and oppression.

It's really no different than a child having a tantrum in a store aisle, throwing themselves on the ground and screaming that their parents are mean for not buying them a new toy they want. The child is unable to understand things like staying on a budget for the good of the rest of the family and for themselves, and usually has everything they want handed to them with no effort on their part. So they cannot imagine why their parents are not immediately giving them what they want other than they're just bad people being mean for it's own sake. Though unlike the lockdown children, real children eventually grow out of it.

[Cope]

You know what else the Chinese Communist Party endorses? Breathing. So if you're not turning blue you're a communist, correct?

Reaching for what someone long dead said about the political situation of their time and trying to apply it as a "gotcha" argument to current issues is a weak appeal to authority that exposes one's argument as utterly lacking any standing. By the way, Washington had quarantines and lockdowns in the continental army to prevent smallpox from running wild. Does that mean Washington was a communist?

Fortunately I appealed to the comments of a world leading epidemiologist who functionally admitted that his C19 response was borrowed from the CCP and so draconian he didn't initially believe that it would be accepted in Europe.

It has nothing to do with freedom or you being persecuted for whatever the reason you are told everyone is mean to you today. The reason the lockdowns were so opposed on the right, often to the point of violence, is that conservatism has no concern for the wider society or anyone but the self, and the modern conservative has led such an easy, carefree life that he thinks mild inconvenience is suffering and oppression.

Setting aside the partisan caricature, surely this expectation of collective responsibility will be applied to the BLM demonstrators of 2020 who contributed to "positive abnormal" C19 growth rates?

It's really no different than a child having a tantrum in a store aisle, throwing themselves on the ground and screaming that their parents are mean for not buying them a new toy they want. The child is unable to understand things like staying on a budget for the good of the rest of the family and for themselves, and usually has everything they want handed to them with no effort on their part. So they cannot imagine why their parents are not immediately giving them what they want other than they're just bad people being mean for it's own sake. Though unlike the lockdown children, real children eventually grow out of it.

I think we've entered the twilight zone when liberals are using poor budgeting analogies to chastise conservatives.

[PointOfViewGun]

As I said from day one:

This seems to be the second paper from the same group. For their first paper they were criticized:

Fact check: Working paper isn't proof COVID-19 restrictions don't work, experts say

But this paper is not nearly as authoritative as many discussing it purport, as it was not peer-reviewed and doesn't represent an expert consensus on the subject of lockdowns.

Many public health experts have criticized the methodology and conclusions of the paper, which was conducted by economists rather than researchers with more extensive training in the complex dynamics at play in a pandemic. Other peer-reviewed papers have concluded lockdowns are an effective pandemic countermeasure.

It's also inaccurate to attribute the report to Johns Hopkins, which did not endorse the paper.

Skimming through the paper I have seen a lot of logic jumps that disregard a multitude of factors to downgrade a complex situation into a simple one. I wouldn't be surprised if their second paper produce similar criticisms from the experts as USA Today pointed about the first one.