Coronavirus outbreak - From China to the World.

[Morifea]

Without a doubt, globalism is to blame here. But globalist policies that caused the pandemic to spread by virtue of action or inaction were largely enacted by the civil authorities, so..
The main lesson here, is realization that authorities may not always have your best interests at heart. Some globalist politician would rather have thousands of people get infected and possibly die, then risk disturbing the precious status quo.

What has Europes Corona Hotspot, the Snowsport Ressort in Ischgl, to do with Globalisation?

Some Globalist Politicans... like Bolsonaro, who makes sure Brazil gets its share?
Or like putin, who has his medias Spread False information in Italia and Spain, while denying basic facts and not using the time to prepare the Russian Health system?

[Heathen Hammer]

What has Europes Corona Hotspot, the Snowsport Ressort in Ischgl, to do with Globalisation?

Some Globalist Politicans... like Bolsonaro, who makes sure Brazil gets its share?
Or like putin, who has his medias Spread False information in Italia and Spain, while denying basic facts and not using the time to prepare the Russian Health system?

Seems like politicians like Trudeau, Merkel or Macron are either too incompetent to address the issue, or simply do not care if the virus spreads among the population.
It seems that Putin and Trump were the few world leaders who managed to address the pandemic mas promptly as situation allowed it.

That depends on who people vote for. The main issue here is that that matters hugely. In periods like this, a strong reliable government is obviously needed. Point being that the reaction of mistrust in current and past elected governments should not be "let's have less government" but "damn, we'd better take the question of who we put in charge seriously". Because I'm afraid a lot of people haven't been taking it seriously under the motto "they all suck, so why bother". Now in times of crisis it's become obvious we should have bothered. We should have prioritized proven competence over infotainment and free market evangelism. Another 'disease' we have to cure ourselves from to make that happen is the false notion social media have instilled in so many that every opinion carries equal weight. We should stop being idiots like that guy we have here in the Netherlands, Thierry Baudet, who, while having no medical qualifications whatsoever, yesterday during a parliamentary hearing was actually presuming to tell a senior virologist he was misinterpreting the data.

While in USA, Americans proved to be a bit more educated and politically mature and didn't vote for idiot Clinton, here in Canada we weren't so lucky, so thanks to foreign funding, gerrymandering and clueless boomers we ended up stuck with idiot Trudeau, that kept borders open until the last minute.
The problem is that dumb s like Trudeau or Macron did have political powers and their decisions were predominantly the reason why pandemic spread as far. Then we have WHO, that spent better half of the time kissing China's ass, rather then declaring pandemic in time to prevent the spread of the virus. It is quite clear that globalist evangelism is what got us to this point, while people that mainstream media and useful idiots called "crazy preppers" and "conspiracy theorists" only a month ago were 100% correct about the pandemic.
But incompetence that comes from globalist/marxist politicians is not only bad for the economy, but it, in fact, quite lethal, as we see with the ongoing pandemic.

[Sar1n]

It seems that Putin and Trump were the few world leaders who managed to address the pandemic mas promptly as situation allowed it.

Czech Republic is also doing well, especially considering it's a transit country. Mere 572 cases after two weeks from first detected infection, no fatalities, 3 recovered.

[Heathen Hammer]

Czech Republic is also doing well, especially considering it's a transit country. Mere 572 cases after two weeks from first detected infection, no fatalities, 3 recovered.

Another main lesson here is that mass immigration and open borders is something that really helps spread the pandemic.

[PointOfViewGun]

This entire virus crisis showed us that capitalism without socialism can not survive. Just like true communism is considered a delusional dream, true capitalism is a delusional dream. What made it survive for decades is the socialist checks and balances as well as socialist interventions.

[Heathen Hammer]

Except that virus spread because of a marxist dictatorship in China with public healthcare. So socialism, along with suicidal globalism of western elites, is kinda of the reason why the pandemic happened.

[Morticia Iunia Bruti]

It seems that Putin and Trump were the few world leaders who managed to address the pandemic mas promptly as situation allowed it.

Germany: 13.093, 31 dead
US: 9.415 Infected, 150 dead -> numbers quickly rising...

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

Well done, Trump.

[Heathen Hammer]

Germany: 13.093, 31 dead
US: 9.415 Infected, 150 dead -> numbers quickly rising...

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

Well done, Trump.

Trump closed the borders comparatively earlier. Not to mention the anti-sanitary shitehole that Democrat-run California is, with medieval diseases and human waste on the streets. Unlike Trump, Merkel had it on easy mode and she still messed it up.

[PointOfViewGun]

Except that virus spread because of a marxist dictatorship in China with public healthcare. So socialism, along with suicidal globalism of western elites, is kinda of the reason why the pandemic happened.

The virus didn't spread because of a Marxist dictatorship in China. It spread despite it. Social has nothing to do with making the pandemic worse, to the contrary. It's extremely idiotic to suggest that it is. Globalism is a core aspect of capitalism. It's not tied to socialism as well.

[Heathen Hammer]

The virus didn't spread because of a Marxist dictatorship in China. It spread despite it. Social has nothing to do with making the pandemic worse, to the contrary. It's extremely idiotic to suggest that it is. Globalism is a core aspect of capitalism. It's not tied to socialism as well.

Yeah, marxist totalitarian government shutting up doctors and refusing to even acknowledge that virus exists for 2 months really helped. Your post shows some theocratic levels of delusional belief in regimes that caused the pandemic.

[Copperknickers II]

Another main lesson here is that mass immigration and open borders is something that really helps spread the pandemic.

Open borders is one thing, but immigration? What does immigration have to do with a pandemic? The only way immigration could spread a pandemic is if immigrants were arriving in large numbers from infected countries. The UK has around 10 million immigrants, most of whom have not left the UK in the last few months and so pose no risk. They are generally fairly low or middle income people from South Asia, Africa and Eastern Europe, areas with among the world's lowest coronavirus rates, meaning they probably pose much LESS risk as a group than middle class white Brits, who work with Chinese colleagues and regularly travel for business and pleasure. Meanwhile the Czech Republic receives 20 million tourists per year, largely from Western Europe and Asia. All of them potentially pose a risk, since almost all are coming from countries with higher rates of corona than Czechia. So if you are against immigration then you need to be 100% more against tourism, in which case I don't think Czechia is worthy of your praise.

[Heathen Hammer]

Open borders is one thing, but immigration? What does immigration have to do with a pandemic? The only way immigration could spread a pandemic is if immigrants were arriving in large numbers from infected countries. The UK has around 10 million immigrants, most of whom have not left the UK in the last few months and so pose no risk. They are generally fairly low or middle income people from South Asia, Africa and Eastern Europe, areas with among the world's lowest coronavirus rates, meaning they probably pose much LESS risk as a group than middle class white Brits, who work with Chinese colleagues and regularly travel for business and pleasure. Meanwhile the Czech Republic receives 20 million tourists per year, largely from Western Europe and Asia. All of them potentially pose a risk, since almost all are coming from countries with higher rates of corona than Czechia. So if you are against immigration then you need to be 100% more against tourism, in which case I don't think Czechia is worthy of your praise.

Its also population of naturalized immigrants who still travel to their home countries that happen to be epicenters.

[Aexodus]

However, the global movement of people does contribute to the spread of disease.

[PointOfViewGun]

Yeah, marxist totalitarian government shutting up doctors and refusing to even acknowledge that virus exists for 2 months really helped. Your post shows some theocratic levels of delusional belief in regimes that caused the pandemic.

So, by that logic all countries where the virus spread was because they were Marxist dictatorships? Italy, USA, Germany? No amount of projection on your part can not make you sweep the stupidity of your post under the rug. Your attempt to tie globalism with socialism when its a core tenet of capitalism was ridiculous to say. Was it Marxist ideologies that made China shut those doctors up? Nope. So, why try to combine two distinct ideas with each other just to pointlessly smear one?

[Heathen Hammer]

So, by that logic all countries where the virus spread was because they were Marxist dictatorships? Italy, USA, Germany? No amount of projection on your part can not make you sweep the stupidity of your post under the rug. Your attempt to tie globalism with socialism when its a core tenet of capitalism was ridiculous to say. Was it Marxist ideologies that made China shut those doctors up? Nope. So, why try to combine two distinct ideas with each other just to pointlessly smear one?

Um, what? Virus started in China. A marxist dictatorship. Instead of addressing the issue, China claimed nothing was happening for months, while pressuring doctors to be silent. Kinda like another marxist dictatorship did with Chernobyl, only to bigger extent.

[Vanoi]

Germany: 13.093, 31 dead
US: 9.415 Infected, 150 dead -> numbers quickly rising...

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

Well done, Trump.

Sounds like the US is doing better than Germany at least.

[Ludicus]

Meanwhile, the "evil"/globalist European Union, in a coordinated action,
announces €750 billion Pandemic Emergency Purchase

The Governing Council will do everything necessary within its mandate. The Governing Council is fully prepared to increase the size of its asset purchase programmes and adjust their composition, by as much as necessary and for as long as needed. It will explore all options and all contingencies to support the economy through this shock.

“We will do everything necessary and more”:when Centeno was Draghi.

Whatever comes and with everything we have. Our commitment to providing support in this time of need is unlimited. These are extraordinary times when we must support each other whenever we can. Especially for people and families affected by this disease, I wish all the strength necessary to overcome it

"Color est e pluribus unus", Moretum -- Appendix Vergiliana - virgil.org

[PointOfViewGun]

Um, what? Virus started in China. A marxist dictatorship. Instead of addressing the issue, China claimed nothing was happening for months, while pressuring doctors to be silent. Kinda like another marxist dictatorship did with Chernobyl, only to bigger extent.

How does that address what I said though? You keep making these pointless posts to run away from the failure of your initial premise. Why are you unable to provide an intelligent defense of your claims?

[conon394]

Sounds like the US is doing better than Germany at least.

Given the sh-t level state of us testing not so sure.

[Beorn]

Here in Greece confirmed cases are comparatively low which is a good sign, but we lack the required amount of kits for adequate tests so official numbers should be taken with a grain of salt.