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    Default Reverses on Michelle Obama's School Lunch Reforms.

    In 2010, Obama administration signed a bill for child nutrition, setting new standards and funding several programs for free lunch in school.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health...ds_Act_of_2010

    The Healthy and Hunger-Free Kids Act (HHFKA) of 2010, a reauthorization of the Child Nutrition Act, provides funding for federal school meal and child nutrition programs, increases access to healthy food, and promotes overall student wellness. By supporting school and community efforts that provide nutritious meals for children and promote overall wellness, the HHFKA is a major step forward in the fight to end childhood hunger, improve nutrition, and combat our country’s epidemic of obesity.

    The HHFKA of 2010 includes $4.5 billion in new funding for its programs and provisions over a 10 year period. Here are some parts of the bill that may be important to NEA members:
    The HHFKA will help end childhood hunger by:

    Expanding after school meals for at-risk children
    Expanding universal meal service through community eligibility
    Connecting more eligible low-income children with school meals through expanding direct certification

    The HHFKA will improve student health and reduce obesity by:

    Establishing national nutrition standards for all foods sold in school during the school day, including a la carte lines and vending machines (note that the Act does not ban fundraisers such as bake sales, etc., held outside of the school day)
    Strengthening local school wellness policies and school food safety programs
    Developing model product specifications for USDA commodity foods used in school meals

    The HHFKA will improve training and support the professionalism of food service employees by:

    Requiring annual training and certification for all local food service personnel in procedures to ensure program compliance and integrity, and in nutrition, health and food safety standards and methods
    Here a part of the standard from the so-called Michelle Obama school lunch program:
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    This final rule modifies several key proposed requirements to respond to commenter concerns and facilitate successful implementation of the requirements at the State and local levels. The rule phases in many of the changes to help ensure that all stakeholders—the children, the schools, and their supply chains—have time to adapt. Most notably, this final rule provides additional time for implementation of the breakfast requirements and modifies those requirements in a manner that reduces the estimated costs of breakfast changes, as compared to the proposed rule. As a result, the final rule is estimated to add $3.2 billion to school meal costs over 5 years, considerably less than the estimated cost of the proposed rule. When considered in the context of other related provisions of the Healthy Hunger-Free Kids Act (HHFKA) of 2010, sufficient resources are expected to be available to school food authorities to cover the additional costs of updated meal offerings to meet the new standards.

    Specifically, in addition to improving nutritional quality, the HHFKA mandated that beginning July 1, 2011, revenue streams for a la carte foods relative to their costs be at least as high as the revenue streams for Program meals compared to their costs. Consequently schools should receive over $1 billion a year in new food revenues beginning in School Year 2011–2012. That will help schools work toward implementing the new standards effective the following year, i.e., July 1, 2012. In addition, USDA estimates that the ‘‘School Food Authorities revenues’’ rule will increase participation in school meal programs by 800,000 children. In addition, the six-cent per lunch performance-based reimbursement increase included in the HHFKA will provide additional revenue beginning October 1, 2012. The Congressional Budget Office estimated about $1.5 billion over 5 years will be provided in performance-based funding.

    I. Background The Richard B. Russell National School Lunch Act (NSLA) in Section 9(a)(4), 42 U.S.C. 1758(a)(4), requires that school meals reflect the latest ‘‘Dietary Guidelines for Americans’’ (Dietary Guidelines). In addition, section 201 of the Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act of 2010 (Pub. L. 111–296, HHFKA) amended Section 4(b) of the NSLA, 42 U.S.C. 1753(b), to require the Department of Agriculture (USDA) to issue regulations to update the meal patterns and nutrition standards for school lunches and breakfasts based on the recommendations issued by the Food and Nutrition Board of the National Research Council of the National Academies of Science, part of the Institute of Medicine (IOM). On January 13, 2011, USDA published a proposed rule in the Federal Register (76 FR 2494) to update the meal patterns and nutrition standards for the National School Lunch Program (NSLP) and the School Breakfast Program (SBP) to align them with the 2005 Dietary Guidelines. The proposed rule sought to increase the availability of fruits, vegetables, whole grains, and fat-free and low-fat fluid milk in the school menu; reduce the levels of sodium, saturated fat and trans fat in school meals; and meet the nutrition needs of school children within their calorie requirements. The intent of the proposed rule was to provide nutrient-dense meals (high in nutrients and low in calories) that better meet the dietary needs of school children and protect their health. The proposed changes, designed for meals offered to school children in grades Kindergarten (K) to 12, were largely based on the IOM recommendations set forth in the report ‘‘School Meals: Building Blocks for Healthy Children’’ (October 2009).

    In summary, the January 2011 proposed rule sought to improve lunches and breakfasts by requiring schools to:

    •Offer fruits and vegetables as two separate meal components;
    •Offer fruit daily at breakfast and lunch;
    •Offer vegetables daily at lunch, including specific vegetable subgroups weekly (dark green, orange, legumes, and other as defined in the 2005 Dietary Guidelines) and a limited quantity of starchy vegetables throughout the week;
    •Offer whole grains: half of the grains would be whole grain-rich upon implementation of the rule and all grains would be whole-grain rich two years post implementation;
    •Offer a daily meat/meat alternate at breakfast;
    •Offer fluid milk that is fat-free (unflavored and flavored) and low-fat (unflavored only);
    •Offer meals that meet specific calorie ranges for each age/grade group;
    •Reduce the sodium content of meals gradually over a 10-year period through two intermediate sodium targets at two and four years post implementation;
    •Prepare meals using food products or ingredients that contain zero grams of trans fat per serving;
    •Require students to select a fruit or a vegetable as part of the reimbursable meal;
    •Use a single food-based menu planning approach; and
    •Use narrower age/grade groups for menu planning. In addition, the proposed rule sought to improve school meals by requiring State agencies (SAs) to: •Conduct a nutritional review of school lunches and breakfasts as part of the administrative review process;
    •Determine compliance with the meal patterns and dietary specifications based on a review of menu and production records for a two-week period; and
    •Review school lunches and breakfasts every 3 years, consistent with the HHFKA.

    https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/.../2012-1010.pdf


    The context is a (still) rising obesity among children and teenagers in the US: https://pediatrics.aappublications.o...41/3/e20173459

    Little funding for school lunches:


    And a rising debt:
    https://newfoodeconomy.org/as-studen...its-real-cost/
    https://edition.cnn.com/2019/05/17/u...rnd/index.html

    In 2017, a part of the school lunch standards has been removed by the newly elected Trump administration:
    https://www.usda.gov/media/press-rel...ls-great-again
    https://www.npr.org/2017/05/01/52645...re-initiatives

    The remove was mostly on the whole grains, sodium and milk standards.

    Now, the Trump administration decided to goes further, here some excerpts from different media and newspapers:

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    The Washington Post : More pizza, fewer vegetables: Trump administration further undercuts Obama school-lunch rules
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...-obama-effort/

    Quote Originally Posted by The Washington Post
    Lipps said the changes will help address what he described as unintended consequences of the regulations put in place during the Obama administration. For example, when schools were trying to implement innovative solutions such as grab-and-go breakfast off a cart or meals in the classroom, they were forced to give kids two bananas to meet minimum federal requirements.

    But Colin Schwartz, deputy director of legislative affairs for Center for Science in the Public Interest, says that the proposed rules, if finalized, “would create a huge loophole in school nutrition guidelines, paving the way for children to choose pizza, burgers, french fries and other foods high in calories, saturated fat or sodium in place of balanced school meals every day.”
    Mother Jones : The Bizarre Trump-Fueled Backlash to Healthy School Lunches
    https://www.motherjones.com/food/201...chool-lunches/

    Quote Originally Posted by Mother Jones
    King’s school lunch bill stalled in Congress, but the right-wing zeal for reversing Obama’s agenda stayed on a slow boil. Then, in 2016, a man obsessed with taco bowls and Big Macs claimed the presidency. Just before Donald Trump took office, the far-right House Freedom Caucus released a hit list of more than 300 rules and regulations that urgently needed to be revoked or examined in his first 100 days. First on the list: the Obama lunch reforms.

    In May 2017, Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue appeared at an elementary school in Virginia, vowing to “Make School Meals Great Again.” Echoing Freedom Caucus talking points, Perdue announced that “if kids aren’t eating the food, and it’s ending up in the trash, they aren’t getting any nutrition.” He also asserted that procuring whole grain foods like pasta was imposing “problematic” costs on cafeterias. For good measure, he added that “I wouldn’t be as big as I am today without chocolate milk.”

    For all the bluster, Perdue’s new rules, put into law in February 2019, represented a fairly modest rollback. The Obama guidelines stipulated that starches like pasta and buns must contain at least 50 percent whole grains and that chocolate milk could contain no fat. Perdue cut the grain requirement in half and allowed flavored 1 percent milk. He weakened a mandate to cut salt levels, but he left calorie limits and requirements for more fruit and vegetables intact.

    Meanwhile, researchers contracted by his own department were studying the impact of the Obama-era reforms. The results, quietly released in April, demonstrate that the conservative backlash was based on nonsense. The USDA study compared school years before and after the Obama reforms. It turns out that serving healthier food did not result in significantly higher costs for cafeterias or mean more food going into the garbage. The reforms did, however, result in healthier lunches—more whole grains, greens, and beans, as well as fewer “empty calories” (added sugar and solid fats) and less sodium. And maybe most importantly, the cafeterias that delivered higher healthy-food scores also had significantly higher rates of students choosing to eat the lunches. That same month, attorneys general from six states and the District of Columbia sued the USDA, charging that the rollbacks were made without public input and were “not based on tested nutritional research.”
    PBS (Public Broadcasting Service) : How Trump’s USDA wants to change rules around school nutrition
    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/ho...hool-nutrition

    Quote Originally Posted by PBS
    Improving school meals was among Michelle Obama’s key initiatives during her tenure as first lady. Since then, the Trump administration has rolled back Obama-era school nutrition policies they argued went too far and were ineffective. Now, the Department of Agriculture has made additional major changes. Crystal FitzSimons of the Food Research and Action Center joins Amna Nawaz to discuss.

    [...]

    Crystal FitzSimons:
    So, the vast majority of kids who participate in the school lunch program are low-income and do receive either free or reduced-price school lunches. And we know that those meals are actually often the meals that they're going to be relying on and their only meals.

    So we want to make sure they're healthy. And we need to make sure that they have access to them. And schools can do a lot to reduce — can reduce plate waste by making sure that they do have enough time to eat.

    So there are strategies. Schools are doing salad bars. Schools are doing farm to school. There's really wonderful, creative ways that schools across the country are making sure that kids want to eat their fruits and vegetables. And we want to make sure that's happening in every school.

    And we do not want to see these rollbacks to the school nutrition standards.

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    Daily Mail UK : Happy birthday Michelle Obama, I've canceled your school lunches! Donald Trump's administration lets schools cut back on fruit and veg and sell MORE pizza and burgers - and serve fries every day
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-birthday.html

    Quote Originally Posted by Daily Mail
    'The proposed rule would allow anything that might be allowable as an entrée on any one school day to be served as an a la carte item every single day. In practice, if finalized, this would create a huge loophole in school nutrition guidelines, paving the way for children to choose pizza, burgers, French fries, and other foods high in calories, saturated fat or sodium in place of balanced school meals every day,' Center for Science in the Public Interest Deputy Director of Legislative Affairs Colin Schwartz said in a statement.

    'The Trump administration proposal also would limit the variety of vegetables served at lunch and allow schools to reduce the amount of fruit served with some breakfasts. (If past is prologue, lobbyists for the potato industry likely have replacements in mind.),' Schwartz added.

    'The potato industry and junk food lobbyists should not be able to dictate what is and is not on school menus for 30 million students,' said Environmental Working Group President Ken Cook in a statement.

    'Just because President Trump consumes cheeseburgers and fries every day doesn’t mean children want or should be given the same choice.

    'There are far too many kids struggling with obesity in this country, and we should be making it easier for them to choose fresh, local whole fruits and vegetables, not limiting them to highly processed foods that will only make this epidemic worse.'
    The Hill : Trump to roll back Michelle Obama's school lunch rules on vegetables, fruits
    https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...ol-lunch-rules

    Quote Originally Posted by The Hill
    In a recent op-ed for The Hill, Dr. Rachel Borton, the director of the Family Nurse Practitioner online program at Bradley University, said healthy school meals are essential to both good physical and mental health, especially for low-income students who are more likely to receive their only healthy meal of the day while at school.

    "If those students don’t have access to the nutritious options provided by the school, they may turn to low cost, processed foods that are high in calories but sparse in nutrients. Immediate effects of this type of diet include weight gain and poor physical health," Borton wrote. "Long-term impacts range from increased risk of obesity, heart disease, diabetes, and a slew of other unfortunate health outcomes."

    The Obama administration's school lunch plan increased the requirement for fruits and vegetables in meals, cut trans-fat and reduced sodium levels in food. It also required cafeterias to serve only skim or low-fat milk.

    In 2019, the first comprehensive analysis of the Obama administration's lunch plan by the Department of Agriculture found the updates "had a positive and significant influence on nutritional quality" as students ate more whole grains, greens, and beans, as well as fewer “empty calories.”

    The report found evidence of food waste, but the levels were not substantially higher than food waste under previous lunch regulations.
    NPR (National Public Radio) : More Pizza And Fries? USDA Proposes To 'Simplify' Obama-Era School Lunch Rules
    https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...=1579435983021

    Quote Originally Posted by National Public Radio
    The proposal follows a spate of rule changes announced by Perdue in 2018 that weakened the whole grain requirements and gave school administrators more leeway to serve up white breads and biscuits. In addition, the 2018 changes put the brakes on the targets set during the Obama administration to cut back on sodium in school meals.

    "The Healthy, Hunger Free Kids Act of 2010 has been called one of the most important obesity-prevention policy achievements in recent decades," Schwartz says. "Yet the Trump administration seems intent on sabotaging it."

    The School Nutrition Association, which represents school nutrition administrators around the country, has supported the USDA's efforts to streamline school nutrition rules. The group joined Secretary Perdue at the nutrition roundtable today.

    "SNA is eager to review the proposed changes, discuss them with our members and share their feedback with USDA," wrote SNA President Gay Anderson in a release. "We are grateful for USDA's ongoing dialogue with school nutrition professionals and desire to ensure school meal programs operate smoothly to benefit students."
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    Jesus Christ, now I understand why people call Trump a reactionary.
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    Obesity is a big problem these days. Just last week I nearly hit a guy with my car. He asked me why I didn't go around him. I told him I didn't think I had enough gas

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    Default Re: Reverses on Michelle Obama's School Lunch Reforms.

    Clearly, Trump is creating stress for Democratic party supporters, who end up becoming obese and it is Trump's fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heathen Hammer View Post
    Clearly, Trump is creating stress for Democratic party supporters, who end up becoming obese and it is Trump's fault.
    Clearly the issue is older than Trump and Obama administration.

    But this moves from the Trump administration, is it going in the good direction?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genava View Post
    Clearly the issue is older than Trump and Obama administration.

    But this moves from the Trump administration, is it going in the good direction?
    We live in the day and age where public education might as well be replaced with youtube with little to no loss.
    In regards to public health in general, I'd say encouraging people to grow their own food and de-urbanize could be a step in the right direction.

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    Default Re: Reverses on Michelle Obama's School Lunch Reforms.

    We live in the day and age where public education might as well be replaced with youtube with little to no loss.
    Amazing. At this level, it is an art.

    By the way you are avoiding the question and going off-topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genava View Post
    Amazing. At this level, it is an art.

    By the way you are avoiding the question and going off-topic.
    Again, I'm just going from current state of public education institutions. And it is quite clear that public should simply not rely on government as much. Grow your own food.

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    The Michelle Obama initiative, which I supported in theory, was a huge failure. The school budgets and lack of training for lunch chefs resulted in disgusting meals that children posting pictures online with the hashtag ThanksMichelleObama.

    Here is a buzzfeed article with some pictures included:
    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...eobama-with-th

    Mass production of free meals for children for daily consumption is not an easy thing to accomplish. I don't know what the solution is, but these rules certainly wasn't it.

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    Default Re: Reverses on Michelle Obama's School Lunch Reforms.

    Quote Originally Posted by tgoodenow View Post
    The Michelle Obama initiative, which I supported in theory, was a huge failure. The school budgets and lack of training for lunch chefs resulted in disgusting meals that children posting pictures online with the hashtag ThanksMichelleObama.

    Here is a buzzfeed article with some pictures included:
    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...eobama-with-th

    Mass production of free meals for children for daily consumption is not an easy thing to accomplish. I don't know what the solution is, but these rules certainly wasn't it.
    Good point and indeed this was one of my doubt about the initiative. But it seems more related to the lack of budget/funding than a problem with the standard.
    The only thing we can blame Obama for is to have put the cart before the horse.

    However, is it a good idea to remove most of the standard? I really think it will worsen the situation.
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    Default Re: Reverses on Michelle Obama's School Lunch Reforms.

    Here is a buzzfeed article with some pictures included:
    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...eobama-with-th

    Mass production of free meals for children for daily consumption is not an easy thing to accomplish. I don't know what the solution is, but these rules certainly wasn't it.

    Umm I tend to not believe anyone's picture with only one item on the tray. Second I saw stuff just as bad on the tray back in the 80s. There are always bad lunches. Personally thats why always took lunch nothing like a bagel sandwich with Geno salami Dijon mustard cream cheese onions and spinach and bell peppers and two green apples while friends are staring a slightly green looking turkey dog and an insipid fruit cup and the same old overcooked green beans.

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    Again, I'm just going from current state of public education institutions. And it is quite clear that public should simply not rely on government as much. Grow your own food.
    Nice pointless answer.

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    But it seems more related to the lack of budget/funding than a problem with the standard
    Indeed the quality of school lunches and options is dramatically different between Colfax where conservative/republican or no people overwhelmingly support school funding vs SE Idaho where people reflexivity vote down pretty every millage and are generally rather apathetic about schools in general.
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    Nice pointless answer.
    It isn't pointless in the current context of modern US, where public education system has failed (partially due to budget being sucked out by endless wars and foreign aid, partially due to classic public sector mismanagement). So yeah, the best thing that can be done is to make public rely more on themselves and less on the government - grow their own food, homeschool, etc.

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    School lunches are communism and Jesus hates them. Children need guns and hard labour.
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    School lunches are communism and Jesus hates them. Children need guns and hard labour.
    You going to run for congress in a southern red state?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gromovnik View Post
    School lunches are communism and Jesus hates them. Children need guns and hard labour.
    Of course not, children need drug queen story hour and to be obese from terribly picked school lunches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heathen Hammer View Post
    Of course not, children need drug queen story hour and to be obese from terribly picked school lunches.
    You know, originally politics is about solving issues inside the community. Not diverting the attention to other topics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genava View Post
    You know, originally politics is about solving issues inside the community. Not diverting the attention to other topics.
    I'm not the one who started projecting on what the other side thinks.
    I already offered a rather simple solution - homeschooling and making your own food.

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    Hell yeah, that's the ticket. What could possibly go wrong with homeshooling? After all, every parent is a superb teacher and pedagogue.
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    Default Re: Reverses on Michelle Obama's School Lunch Reforms.

    Why not? Enough knowledge of the bible should be sufficient for a good education

    Making your own food would be a fair point, but I´m afraid most People lack basic knowledge about food and proper nourishment.

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