Dwarves campaing

**baniwel** · January 17, 2020, 11:11 AM

Hello everyone, sorry for my english a first.

Im dealing with the dwarf campaing...it is impossible to me to pass well the first 50 turns, i have restart it a lot of times, proving different views at ways to play and it is very difficult... i like dwarf a lot, but i dont know how to play them in this mod... any advice for the first moves, economy, what to done?

Thanks a lot if you help me in this...

**Moveric** · January 18, 2020, 12:28 AM

Hi,

What version are you playing? 1.5 or the newer one?

In 1.5 i also struggled to surviwe past 40-50 turn.

**baniwel** · January 20, 2020, 12:07 PM

Thanks, im playing 1.5+Discord version.

Im now at turn 40 and seeing the light, jeje. Is an expression that im now thinking that i will survive this one.

I left behind karak Hirn and send all troop to Barak Varn. After a few defensive batlles, i conquest Grinburg (or something like that) and now i hope to star my counterattacks!!

How do you play? what do you do to survive?

**Lord Flashheart** · January 22, 2020, 09:22 PM

I re-started a few times too and found the same solution.

At first I tried to save the westernmost city that rebelled, but I had issues financing the army and eventually lost.
Then I tried giving it up, dismantling the buildings, disbanding the local army and sending the lord to Barak Varr. Barak Varr survived two sieges, but I gave up the game at the third siege.
(I also noticed that if I launch an attack from the besieged city and destroy the siege equipment, then the orks will lift the siege and come back one or two rounds later.)
The last try was giving up Barak Varr and the rebelling city and withdraw the lords to the capital. I sent the merchants to trade with warp-stones, disbanded the units that were not free-upkeep.
Unfortunately it turned out that the mining buildings that were suppose to grant money gave me nothing so I quit playing dwarves.

I also started chaos undivided. I captured have 11 cities. I stopped playing because I felt it was too easy, but I will carry on.

I`m playing with Reikland now and it is a tad bit easier than the dwarves but I still had to re-start a few times until I figured out how to survive the first 30 turns.

**Moveric** · January 23, 2020, 04:04 AM

Play new version: 2.0 Beta
Most of the annoying stuff is corrected.

Link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/15GB...6ZvZOui4G/view
And also instal (replace) - https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...ampaign_db.xml

**baniwel** · January 23, 2020, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by Lord Flashheart

I re-started a few times too and found the same solution.

At first I tried to save the westernmost city that rebelled, but I had issues financing the army and eventually lost.
Then I tried giving it up, dismantling the buildings, disbanding the local army and sending the lord to Barak Varr. Barak Varr survived two sieges, but I gave up the game at the third siege.
(I also noticed that if I launch an attack from the besieged city and destroy the siege equipment, then the orks will lift the siege and come back one or two rounds later.)
The last try was giving up Barak Varr and the rebelling city and withdraw the lords to the capital. I sent the merchants to trade with warp-stones, disbanded the units that were not free-upkeep.
Unfortunately it turned out that the mining buildings that were suppose to grant money gave me nothing so I quit playing dwarves.

I also started chaos undivided. I captured have 11 cities. I stopped playing because I felt it was too easy, but I will carry on.

I`m playing with Reikland now and it is a tad bit easier than the dwarves but I still had to re-start a few times until I figured out how to survive the first 30 turns.

Thanks!! I manage to pass the first turns. Yo need all the merchants in the south area where are some dragon bones. And to the south of Khemri, to de ruins. Left de westernmost city and destroy everything, sending the army to barak varr, and another units from karak az karak to reinforce. Then, start to defend everything, after defending and havind the merchants starting making money you are going to be well.

**baniwel** · January 23, 2020, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by Moveric

Play new version: 2.0 Beta
Most of the annoying stuff is corrected.

Link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/15GB...6ZvZOui4G/view
And also instal (replace) - https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...ampaign_db.xml

How i install it? If i have the previus one? 1.5+Discord.

**Moveric** · January 24, 2020, 11:11 AM

Rename or delete previous BOTET folder in Mods.

For example, name the old one: "BOTET_OLD".

**baniwel** · January 24, 2020, 12:03 PM

Perfect

**Lord Flashheart** · January 26, 2020, 09:40 AM

Wow, thank you.
How do you install this?

Originally Posted by Moveric

And also instal (replace) - https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...ampaign_db.xml

**Garnash** · January 26, 2020, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by Lord Flashheart

Wow, thank you.
How do you install this?

Just copy & paste it inside data folder.

**Maltacus** · January 28, 2020, 02:03 PM

I play version 1.5 but I have modded the dwarfs and most other factions units to have very different stats and don't know what the vailla experience is like. Could someone describe in a bit more detail what makes the dwarfs lose? They seem to start so strong and with several karaks so even if some would fall they remain in a strong position. What is it that happens to the dwarf player?

**Bardas Phokas** · February 27, 2022, 06:24 PM

They have too many units to upkeep and they go bankrupt immediately. Their economy sucks and even if you disband all your non free upkeep units you will have very little money to spend on your first turns. Plus they start at war with many evil factions and that drops their reliability (a side-effect of the way diplomacy worked in vanilla).