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    Default Re: [TGC 0.98 public alpha II+patch 001] Released version 09.03.2021

    Quote Originally Posted by _Tartaros_ View Post
    Some news about the Islamic Roster rework?
    Regards
    the temporary step i will follow is that i will keep the units as they are now and to cloned units i will give the same models with each faction textures.
    The next step will be the desision of the name of the similar units that we will keep for all comon units (either the cretan ones or the generic english ones) and finally add the unique units of theirs..
    Also a Georgian heavy cavalry unit will be added to ROMAN roster for an event battle similar to the Paulikian one.

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    Default Re: [TGC 0.98 public alpha II+patch 001] Released version 09.03.2021

    nice,
    btw the georgian heavy cav will make a special georgian in twc happy

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    Default Re: [TGC 0.98 public alpha II+patch 001] Released version 09.03.2021

    AnthoniusII


    Georgian cavalry in 10-12 centuries:


    Servants (Mokme) - served feudal lords, trained with them, did not have horse armor

    Feudals (Aznauri) - at most they had a horse's neck scale or lamelar crinet. I have drawn this crinet and umbracatervae777 create for Aznauri units.

    Aristocracy - (Tadzreuli ) - They had really heavy horse armor. Sometimes heavier than cataphracts. Military historian Mamuka Tsurtsumia has Byzantine and Armenian sources in his work

    bodyguard(Chukhchi) - because it was guard Institute king's And Generals , they had heavy horse iron lamellar armor like a Tadzreuli


    Monaspa (Mercerany Regular Cavalry )- was a regular army of mercenaries mainly of Kivchags and other North Caucasians.It existed only in the 12th century. However, Georgians hired Kipchakes and other North Caucasians even in the 13th and 14th centuries, But it was not a regular foreign army like Monaspa, it was a momentary mercenary - Roki Spa

    Shields were kite shields and round. kite shield is better for knight cavalry Bow, maces and curved sword spread in Georgian cavalry in the 13th century -After battles and relations Mongols, Kipchaks and Turks. Georgian cavalry was transformed from Byzantine -Norman type cavalry to a nomadic style, because they could not win against the nomads with only heavy cavalry. umbracatervae777 created lot Georgian helmets, armors and weapons for 11-12 th century.We have been working for years and We protect the accuracy of details . I recommend using his models or creating based on them - if you can do better



    I think you also need Georgian spearmen - Metsikhovne spearmen, they can create a wall of shields and stand firmly on the front line. Hovhannes Draskhanakertc’i, chronicler and Catholicos of Armenia, preserved animportant account on the tenth-century Georgian infantry: “The multiple troops
    with shields erected a mighty wall.”40 According to the chronicler, the infantry soldiers erected the shields in such a way that they created an impregnable obstacle.41
    Here is described the formation of the infantry called “shield wall,” a phalanx-like formation created by infantry with large shields supporting one another. Only
    well-disciplined infantry, divided into tactical units would be able to make up theshield wall. The discipline and training were crucial to replace the wounded and
    killed in battle without disturbing the formation itself.Creating a wall of sufficient length was possible only with tactical units who knew exactly where they stood in the formation.42 Michael Psellus provides an account of the Georgian troops who fought against the Byzantine Emperor Basil II at Abydos in 989: Bardas Phokas.


    Georgian archers had a command of various methods of shooting arrows. The 111r miniature of the Second Tetraevangelion of Jruchi depicts foot archers shooting arrows at the castle while protecting themselves with a shield .This method is called shooting under a shield and is repeatedly mentioned in Arabic military manuals.47 During the sieges, this method allowed the shooter to approach the castle wall relatively safely.48 Foot archers were realistically depicted on the 186v miniature of the same Gospel: out of the protective equipment, the archers wear only metal helmets and padded fabric garments and are armed with
    a relatively large composite bow.


    Georgian Flag "gorgasliani" for 10-11th century, better is ifcreate without text. and georgian cross for battle



    Couched Lance and Mounted Shock Combat in the East: The Georgian Experience
    https://www.academia.edu/7781595/Cou...ian_Experience

    The Art of War in Georgia in the Eleventh Century and the War with Byzantium
    https://www.mediafire.com/file/8cvk0...ntium.pdf/file
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    Abkhazia and Samachablo is Georgia !!!

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    Default Re: [TGC 0.98 public alpha II+patch 001] Released version 09.03.2021

    Nice research, I could never understand why, they choose to take on Basil II at the height of his power and strength

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    Default Re: [TGC 0.98 public alpha II+patch 001] Released version 09.03.2021

    In the 1.0 rellease only the Aznauri will apear in a certain date part of the Roman army .
    They wont have armored horsses and they will use straight blade swords (TGC in in 10 th century) and round shiels based on teh textures you sent me.
    Later if everything goes better a 10 unit Georgian ARMY ROSTER (its the average number of all rosters ) could be part in the new campaign with new map "Strugle for Anatolia" the will include lands of Georgia anyway.

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    That sounds fantastic

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    Default Re: [TGC 0.98 public alpha II+patch 001] Released version 09.03.2021

    I will help you about the Kingdom of Georgia. Write to me when you start creating Georgian units

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