GEORGIA

[Khevsur]

Each nation fights in a similar way as its neighbours do. But the narrative is always to a faction perceived as culturally superior. So the Georgians fought like the highlanders but depicted their elites as the Byzantine did.

It is not so, in Georgia St. George were painting similar georgian warriors. If you bypass history, it will not be real

Couched Lance and Mounted Shock Combat in the East: The Georgian Experience


https://www.academia.edu/7781595/Cou...ian_Experience



mounted Shock combat was Georgian cavalry Tradition


1st century AD Kartvelian Cavalry - Gaming plate from Dedoflis Gora





17th century AD Kartvelian Cavalry - Teramo Castelli art


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[RodriguesSting]

Georgia is being a very interesting play-through for me so far. They may not have dirt cheap units for me to abuse, but start on a surprisingly strong position that I can capitalize on. Nonetheless, I have two observations to make regarding them:

1 - Adoption and marriage screens refer to them as Byzantines.
2 - While flourished unit descriptions are great, specially when cleaver (Berdchiniki), I feel some of their units may be too much, like the swordsmen. "Loved by all" seems a bit too strong to put in a unit's description, they surely aren't loved by enemies, brigands, and the occasional peasant uprising they got to smash.

[Khevsur]

about georgian mercenary unit - Roki Spa


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roki_Spa



also georgians wore epiloricion s on armor


XI century georgian horse neck armors




I am currently researching georgian shields




When you start creating units, please Write to me and Let's create together. I learned a lot more about Georgian Medieval army.

[kostic]

Hi Khevsur,
good to come back here. Work on Georgian units has yet to be done as I felt there was no consensus on what the Georgian warriors would look like.
There is a new subject which has just opened with several units represented for which your opinion interests me. Look here : Georgian units if yall need

[Khevsur]

Hi Khevsur,
good to come back here. Work on Georgian units has yet to be done as I felt there was no consensus on what the Georgian warriors would look like.
There is a new subject which has just opened with several units represented for which your opinion interests me. Look here : Georgian units if yall need

I did not like it, he needs my help

You have to do what I tell you

please , Work together

[umbracatervae777]

Actually, i also made some new units while i was away. Not just new unit model but also new units which is not implemented yet in current SSHIP

Spoiler for Chukhchi Axemen: 

Spoiler for Tazreuli Macemen: 

Spoiler for Bodyguard: 

I planned to make a submod which contains reworked unit roster

[Jurand of Cracow]

Wow, this is very interesting. It seems Khevsur dreams may come true - more Georgian units! (although he may perceive it as a nighmare...)

Make your submod, @umbracatervae, let's see how do they perform in practice. Then we may cooperate if you would like to, this may be very interesting to make the SSHIP more exciting for the players!

[Khevsur]

Actually, i also made some new units while i was away. Not just new unit model but also new units which is not implemented yet in current SSHIP

Spoiler for Chukhchi Axemen: 

Spoiler for Tazreuli Macemen: 

Spoiler for Bodyguard: 

I planned to make a submod which contains reworked unit roster

Wonderful, you have good vision and talent. But you have mistakes in these units

Let’s do it together and there will be no more mistakes. Write me in inbox






Jurand of Cracow

Yes I like it, though it needs to be corrected
my Units roster is Historically reality, but Dismounted Knight is for Game .
Remove if not needed dismounted Tadzreuli Cavalry and dismounted Aznauri Cavalry. Horse armor will only had Tadzreuli and Generals bodyguards.




Remind me of the early periods years of Mod . 11-12 centuries AD ?

[kostic]

@umbracatervae : Bravo for your mastery and your know-how!

SSHIP starts in 1132 it seems to me ...
Indeed, these units seem closer to what Khevsur is looking for.


So here we have a version of the bodyguards with spears that could be suitable (probably a little too protected for a first upgrade)

[Khevsur]

why are not you writing me ? Let's make Georgian units fast soon.

Small details are very important.

Georgian units have not yet been done properly.You do not know the Georgian army and its details. Your interpretation may overshadow the historical reality. Let me help you


Remove round shields with ornaments, I drew it earlier by mistake. A typical Georgian shield was like that in the 11th-13th centuries. It had a concentric and radial Rays reinforcement of the metal




The royal color was dark red and burgundy




This is the 14-15th century forearm Armor , Was not in the 11th-13th centuries in georgia




georgians shoulder armor were Was of such a shape

[kostic]

@umbracatervae : Would you agree to send me your Georgian units mesh and textures + battlemodel.modeldb so that I integrate them in the next version of SSHIP (possibly correcting some details to make them historically as believable as possible)?

@Khevsur : You are extremely picky and for the moment the only "specialist" in Georgia of the Middle Ages. As I also have other units to work on - I am remaking Muslim units at the moment - I am waiting to get a more precise personal idea before I start modifying Georgian units.


Besides, I do well to wait ; other modders are offering their units right now !
You may not realize how much time it takes to modify, integrate and then test a new unit. I would really like to move faster but I'm just a modder, not a professional.
I made a schedule in which I will maybe add the work on Georgia ...

[RodriguesSting]

I don't want to sound rude but... maybe you're putting a bit too much pressure on a guy who's essentially volunteering to make models, for free? This entire modding community is built upon people who craft stuff for the game, entirely out of their own good will and and enthusiasm.

And dropping a bucket of cold water on that good will and enthusiasm will ultimately result in the mod stagnating and dying out, eventually.

[Khevsur]

Yes brother, I am really a specialist on the Georgian medieval army. But amateur. My friends are famous Georgian military historians. And they give me advice.



Please create first - the Georgian Army. Then the rest. I can not be here forever. Old photos are falling apart.

[Khevsur]

I don't want to sound rude but... maybe you're putting a bit too much pressure on a guy who's essentially volunteering to make models, for free? This entire modding community is built upon people who craft stuff for the game, entirely out of their own good will and and enthusiasm.

And dropping a bucket of cold water on that good will and enthusiasm will ultimately result in the mod stagnating and dying out, eventually.

My English is very bad, sorry if I wrote a bad thing. I just want it done accurately and quickly.I have a lot of work to do and old photos are often deleted from the site.

[RodriguesSting]

Please create first - the Georgian Army. Then the rest. I can not be here forever. Old photos are falling apart.

Now that's the most ominous thing I read the entire year so far.

[Khevsur]

Now that's the most ominous thing I read the entire year so far.

I want it done




because the old material is often deleted in

[Jurand of Cracow]

I don't want to sound rude but... maybe you're putting a bit too much pressure on a guy who's essentially volunteering to make models, for free? This entire modding community is built upon people who craft stuff for the game, entirely out of their own good will and and enthusiasm.

And dropping a bucket of cold water on that good will and enthusiasm will ultimately result in the mod stagnating and dying out, eventually.

@kostic and @umbracatervae must learn by fire how to read messages from @khevsur. I've already got my lesson

[Khevsur]

@kostic and @umbracatervae must learn by fire how to read messages from @khevsur. I've already got my lesson

Haha. I'm really a boxer


Don’t want good Georgian units?

I have accurate knowledge about medieval georgian army. I promise gamers will be satisfied

[Cephalophore]

My internet is acting up so two things real quick via phone:

Jurand, maybe you can paste this thing on the cumans into my last post on the kipchak thread? Thank you. Sorry for posting it here, ik it's a bit irrelevant.

Khevsur, I'm pretty sure everyone who loves SSHIP would love your units, but there aren't many of us who can even make decent units. And even those who can, no.Offense to anyone, can't always make 100% perfect representations. I'm sure someone will fix them eventually, but unless you do it yourself we probably won't get them for awhile. So my sugvestion remains that you,if you haven't already, make a thread and edit the first post so unit creators can access them easily.


Okay, ive been rambling for too long now. Tata.

[Khevsur]

my english Is limited, Short sentences would be good


Ask me before each work process.
Everything will work out

I have uploaded a lot of material many times, But deleted.