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    What year does the game campaign end? Please tell me exactly the years of the game periods


    I have an idea to mix high and late era georgian units

    But first I need a concrete answer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khevsur View Post
    What year does the game campaign end? Please tell me exactly the years of the game periods


    I have an idea to mix high and late era georgian units

    But first I need a concrete answer
    This is very simple: open the mod, start a campaign, check in the panel how many turns are left, divide by 2, subtract it from 1132 - and you've got it.
    Perhaps more difficult information is about the eras: so the High Era starts 1236, and the Late Era 1390. At the moment it is used only in few counters, in the future - nobody knows.

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    1390 + Let's do it at the end of the period. old quivers will be replaced by a Turkish flat quivers.Chain-plate armor,Several helmets, helmets with anthropological face masks. Svanian crossbowmen .
    will be added.



    First of all, let's do this. I wanted this helmet only for high periods, but it's better to have both: early and high periods. Add these helmets in early period

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    Previously some of high era soldiers also wear a lamellar. So how that looks now exactly?

    And what kind of masks for late era soldiers?
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    If in high era game capmaing other factions have lamellar armor. you can also give the Georgians lamellar armor in the high era, but for realism- small amount lamellar armour would be better.




    in Late era -Laminar armor will also be added for nobles .




    face mask helmet for late era

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    Some historians are not so competent. I was misled by an acquaintance "historian"


    Wrist, shin and knee protection became widespread in the 15th century.


    Everything will remain as it was before.Only the helmets will be more specifically sorted

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    As a result of the analysis, I decided so.


    These hats are Iberian and Lazian. It is mentioned and depicted in many sources
    this is Thick fabric hats Or felt





    Medieval Hats for Georgian Peasants - Glekhi
    Murals, sketches, miniatures











    Gerogian from Ebstorf map




    https://georgianjournal.ge/discover-...ical-maps.html
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    i think about Vaynakh unit in late era.It looks like this





    vaynakh shields














    in late era Georgian highlander unit will have wrist armor and Misiurka Helmet -chain-mail on face, and so on

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khevsur View Post
    i think about Vaynakh unit in late era.It looks like this





    vaynakh shields




    Are they mercenaries or something incorporated with standard units?

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    Mercenaries

    It was the sphere of influence of Georgia, Georgians spread Christianity...we were allies before Temur Lang's conquests. Temur Lang conquered and spread Islam in Chechnya-Ingushetia. After that, Georgian mountaineers and Vainakhs often clashed with each other. However, without blind patriotism, I would like to point out that - a small number of Georgian mountaineers mostly defeated the Vainakhs.



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durdzuks

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    Intermezzo

    An artwork of late era Chukhchi made by myself. It may be inaccurate on some point but i try my best

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    I will resume the work on October

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    Quote Originally Posted by umbracatervae777 View Post
    Intermezzo

    An artwork of late era Chukhchi made by myself. It may be inaccurate on some point but i try my best

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    I will resume the work on October
    Very good. I think it would be good to have integrated spherical shoulder protection


    At that time, just give one-handed axes and maces
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    I think about Metsikhovne Gushagi (watchman) Archer - With Helmet And Chain-Mail Coiff ,Color Clothes similar Glekhi , Bow and Quiver Similar Metsikhovne Archer. Sword. without Shields . Warriors is Similar Archers From Georgian Miniature

    Plus-fast movement and fast shooting arrows .

    Minus- less defense . Less bravery compared to Metsikhovne Archer

    This will end the problem of the peasant archer.


    I want to show Tushian school of fencing with two straight swords, so it would be nice if you could give some mountaineers two straight swords.Tushian Tactics was to enter the battle to kill as many enemies as possible







    3:48
    https://youtu.be/PUHvddJJ9fo?t=228

    https://youtu.be/WhAKhW-nJLs?t=64
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    wath is new ?

    I think it would be good if the peasants developed like this

    base- conical hats from my art. clothes
    upgrade 1 - chain-mail coiff, clothing coiff, padded armour
    upgrade 2 - helmets with clothing coiff, chain- mail coiff, padded armour.

    chain mail armour use for metsikhovne, but Metsikhovne Gushagi Archer create like this:
    base - helmets with chain mail and clothing coiff.chain mail coiff. body without armour - only clothes.
    upgrade1 - Helmets with chain-mail and clothing coiff, padded armour.
    upgrade2- helmets with chain-mail coiff and clothing coiff, padded and light chain mail armour.

    Metsikhovne Gushagi Archer is Fast, light and better archer,without shield. They are on high wall checkpoints, they are the first to see the enemy, raise the alarm and shoot arrows at the enemy at a rapid pace

    Metsikhovne Archer is medium heavy archer with shields for close combat. this is better Warrior,with better deffence, better armour .These warriors are good for fighting on walls. Also in the attack during the siege of the fortress, also they shoot arrows from under the shield and do not die
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    Quote Originally Posted by umbracatervae777 View Post
    Intermezzo

    An artwork of late era Chukhchi made by myself. It may be inaccurate on some point but i try my best

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    I will resume the work on October
    Hi @umbracaternavae777 and @Khevsur any news about georgian unit roster? will it be possible to have the new units for the next version of sship mod in December?
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    j.a.luna


    If Umbra will do it - it will be, unfortunately I can only draw and provide historical information.

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    I started painting a Georgian Cavalry of the second half of the 13th century and the first half of the 14th century.I think I will finish in 1 week.
    I used 13-14th century items


    The sword is slightly curved. from shalva qirqishliani fresco 13th-14th c


    The Mongolian type Quiver is from the Georgian warriors of Mount Sinai 13th-14th c





    The shield should be on the back, but I hung it on the horse for demonstration
    https://matiane.wordpress.com/2010/0...by-marco-polo/
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    Wait, so the steel gautlets used earlier actually? (in 13th century)

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    Quote Originally Posted by umbracatervae777 View Post
    Wait, so the steel gautlets used earlier actually? (in 13th century)
    Yes. in georgia, The beginning of the 14th century were already using wrist protection. But it was mainly used by elite cavalry - Aznauri, Tadzreuli, Chukhchi.

    also In the late period, we gave it to Mtieli infantry and servants Cavalry
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