GEORGIA

[umbracatervae777]

Soo, the bodyguard should use mix of mace, axe, and sort of warhammer then? Interesting

[Khevsur]

Soo, the bodyguard should use mix of mace, axe, and sort of warhammer then? Interesting

yes. King's guards - Chukhchi have these weapons on this miniature. These are brutal weapons, because they break armor,They have a deadly blow force .

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also bodyguard infantry had two handed big mace.

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I made a mistake : Klevets type warhammer is outside of this period. I deleted it

Create Chukhchi infantry with two-handed weapons, Chukhchi cavalry with Spears and one-handed weapons.

As for Tadzreuli, give them only one handed maces and round shields in high and late periods. In Early period give them staright Swords and kite shields.

[Khevsur]

my New art. High Period 1236-1350 Dismounted Medieval Georgian Noble Warrior

[Khevsur]

umbracatervae777

I drew Georgian Kite shield From Georgian icon, with Cross of King David III Kuropalates and Bagrat IV. There is a similar shield in the units, But has no cross and Draw this cross on the shield


https://c.radikal.ru/c08/2105/e9/cab98e9b8a10.png



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_III_of_Tao

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[umbracatervae777]

Is there any difference of kite shield used, let's say between Aznauri and Msakhureuli?

[Khevsur]

Is there any difference of kite shield used, let's say between Aznauri and Msakhureuli?

Aznauri unit give luxurious colors ( burgundy , dark red ) and more ornaments. Msakhureuli give Various Brown- colors and less ornaments, They were servants.




also, I draw other version Georgian Noble Warrior 13th-14 th century

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[Khevsur]

in stainlees steel are Lancers with Bow ? In fact, in 13th-15th centuries - Georgian heavy cavalry lancers had 4 weapons Bow , Spear, Sword, Mace .The game engine allows you to use 2 weapons. which one is better ? heavy cavalry with bow and spear , or heavy cavalry with bow and sword or mace ?



about Monaspa

I found the nomadic warriors of the 11th-13th centuries. I am not a specialist in the military history of the Alans and Kypchaks, but i think this Alan and kypchak warriors were in Monaspa 12th-13 th centuries . I need help about nomadic warriors

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Alans


https://b.radikal.ru/b38/2105/7c/a7f184875a97.jpg

Kypchaks-Cumans

[Lifthrasir]

Please, avoid to post pics from Osprey Publishing as they have copyrights.

[umbracatervae777]

in stainlees steel are Lancers with Bow ? In fact, in 13th-15th centuries - Georgian heavy cavalry lancers had 4 weapons Bow , Spear, Sword, Mace .The game engine allows you to use 2 weapons. which one is better ? heavy cavalry with bow and spear , or heavy cavalry with bow and sword or mace ?

I'd go for bow and lance, since a few units in the game already have that equipment. Including 2 units in current Georgian roster. But since disable fire on the move is impossible (actually it's possible manually, but the AI still treat them as similar as nomadic horse archers), i'm gonna give them a few amount of arrow.

That if cavalry with bow and lance is still acceptable in game for the future version, otherwise then bow should out from option. Since shock cavalry is Georgian main identity i think, not mounted archers.

about Monaspa

I found the nomadic warriors of the 11th-13th centuries. I am not a specialist in the military history of the Alans and Kypchaks, but i think this Alan and kypchak warriors were in Monaspa 12th-13 th centuries . I need help about nomadic warriors

Alan units already existed in game, but they are separated from Monaspa.

Anyway, it is fine if i made Monaspa a cavalry with bow and lance? So i just use 1 unit slot. Again, they will have a few amount of arrow for balancing.

[Khevsur]

Lifthrasir

Without illustrations how do I show how to create a unit? These illustrations are all public.
Give me time. Save these illustrations and I will delete them.






umbracatervae777
Yes. Georgian Archers cavalry Give Bows and Spears. Georgian Lancers Cavary give Spears and swords or maces


The main weapon of the Georgian cavalry was Long Spear. They started using bows in the 13th century - After Mongols invasion , but They did not fight like nomads. Georgian horsemens stood and shot arrows at the enemy. Then they attacked with a spear - in a knightly style. After that they used the swords and maces.



If in game is a deficit of slots - make only 1 Monaspa Horse Archers with bow and Spear. But I think 2 units is better - 1)Monaspa Lancers With Spears and Swords. 2) Monaspa Horse Archers With Bow and Spear.

Use these illustrations, these warriors are from the 11th-13th centuries. Monaspa was a mix of Kipchag, North Caucasian and Georgian cavalry. This is a Ethnic mix, but try to give it a visual similarity,Because they all served the Kingdom of Georgia. for example - similar colors Variations of Round Shields . but use it Alanian , Georgian and kypchagian round Shields.

[Lifthrasir]

Lifthrasir

Without illustrations how do I show how to create a unit? These illustrations are all public.
Give me time. Save these illustrations and I will delete them.

Osprey Publishing is extremly strict regarding the use of their pics. To avoid any trouble to the site owner, their pics aren't allowed on this site.

[Khevsur]

This flag was main flag of the Kingdom of Georgia.This should be the flag of the Georgian faction

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...of_Georgia.svg



St. George was the patron saint of the medieval Georgian army.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Georgia_(country)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Georgia


St. George was the patron saint of the medieval Georgian army.

[umbracatervae777]

Msakhureuli units

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In-game screenshots

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[Khevsur]

It is wonderful
Msakhureuli Spearmen Infantry it's not necessary, because Metsikhovne Spearmen infantry Is similar ( Mestikhovne units give round shields and various spears from my illlustratuons)

Notes

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These details are superfluous. it's not necessary









Fabric coif With striped and rectangular details Change with fabric coif Without details. Without seams. but with various brown colors fabric coif.Blue and red colors are not required.








details of dagger handle. Give everyone such a dagger handle






this detail is burgundy - black Flag of Queen Tamari. brown - black colors It does not matter. So delete it
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...nTamarFlag.svg




Add a leather strap to the chain mail coif For contrast

[kostic]

Careful and precise work ! Well done Umbraca ...

[umbracatervae777]

It is wonderful
Msakhureuli Spearmen Infantry it's not necessary, because Metsikhovne Spearmen infantry Is similar ( Mestikhovne units give round shields and various spears from my illlustratuons)

Is there any difference in their equipment in high-late era? Especially armor

[Khevsur]

Is there any difference in their equipment in high-late era? Especially armor

Yes it is.

in high era scale armor was no longer used.


The influence of teimurides begins in late era. Lamellar armor was no longer used.
They began to use chain-mail armour with plates and laminar armour . They started using hand, leg and knee protectors.They started using Wavel type helmets.
I will now show you the basic materials. Then I will draw illustrations of the late period.Before you finished creating early and high era units.

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[umbracatervae777]

How about the middle level like Msakhureuli, are they wear chest disk in addition?

[Khevsur]

How about the middle level like Msakhureuli, are they wear chest disk in addition?

You speak about high era?

Maybe some had. But I think it is better for servants to have simple chain mail and fabric armor.I will think about it and draw concepts.

[umbracatervae777]

Yeah i'm talking about high era

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I also made a new stratmap, but it still need a correction though

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