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    Default Tweeting politics.

    This is a place where everyone can casually discuss with each other about political issues and ideologies. The thread is not directed towards a specific topic, so everything is on the table, from the relationship between road infrastructure and Communism to the merits and downsides of a social security system under a theocratic regime. Any subject concerning politics can be brought up, even if the comment consists of nothing more than a simple question or a definite statement made in a lighthearted manner. Of course, the Terms of Service still apply, so please remember to always respect the rules and refrain from personal references and insults.

    The wealth of those communities, where the political debate prevail, presents itself as an "immense accumulation of opinions", its unit being a single opinion. Our thread must therefore begin with the analysis of an opinion!

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    Personally I've always found my unit to be of immense accumulation, but that's just my opinion.

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    Alright I’ll take a crack at this:
    Feral Hogs Attack and Kill a Woman in Texas


    Sheriff Hawthorne said the tragedy was one of the worst he had seen in his 35-year career. He said that as developers build houses in rural areas, more wild hogs are coming into contact with people. But the only other hog attack he had worked on was when one had attacked a pet cat.
    “Feral hogs are just that: They’re feral, they’re wild and they roam,” he said. “One minute they’re tearing up the land on one ranch, the next minute they’re tearing up the ranch in the town over.”


    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/26/u...eral-hogs.html
    Millions of feral hogs, millions of gun owners in the US. Why haven’t we declared open season on these things? Especially in Texas? Anyone have more background info?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legio_Italica View Post
    Alright I’ll take a crack at this:

    Millions of feral hogs, millions of gun owners in the US. Why haven’t we declared open season on these things? Especially in Texas? Anyone have more background info?
    I'd say there are three main reasons.

    One, if you give thousands of rednecks a blanket pass, someone will get shot.
    Two, hogs are surprisingly tough and quick to anger. I don't think that your common hunting .223 or surprisingly popular (being Russian caliber in US) 7.62x39mm can reliably down a hog before it charges and gores you, short of direct hit to a heart or eye. And hogs that survive a human attack might get more aggressive, and attack on sight (or smell, their eyesight is weak but they have great smell and hearing).
    Three, carcass disposal. Hunting is more than just finding a prey and shoot. You gotta know what to do with it afterwards. Leaving carcasses to rot would naturally be huge hygienic issue, and those things are host to whole heap of parasites and diseases. Personally, I wouldn't cook and eat a wild hog unless the carcass was vetted by a vet. Do you think there are enough vets, and people responsible enough, that every single kill would be either properly checked out or buried deep enough?

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    That’s wild, there’s so many hogs that it’s not even feasible to cull them anymore.
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    Millions of hunting licenses/permits are given out in the US every year. Hunting wild hog is almost as popular as deer hunting, to the point where there are actually game preserves just for hogs. Something doesn’t add up here.

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    They've advocated for poisoning them but there's a possible risk to other wildlife so its not feesible. Maybe they could make an incentive to hint the hogs down. They could attempt what Florida tried with its hunt on the burmese python. Pay them for each wild hog killed. That'll be a good start.

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    Agreed. Maybe the feds could put a bounty on the development of a disease that eliminates them or stops their reproduction, similar to what people are trying to develop for mosquitos. They’re an invasive pest to begin with, so the ecological damage to exterminating the species should be minimal to net positive anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sar1n View Post
    I'd say there are three main reasons.

    One, if you give thousands of rednecks a blanket pass, someone will get shot.
    Two, hogs are surprisingly tough and quick to anger. I don't think that your common hunting .223 or surprisingly popular (being Russian caliber in US) 7.62x39mm can reliably down a hog before it charges and gores you, short of direct hit to a heart or eye. And hogs that survive a human attack might get more aggressive, and attack on sight (or smell, their eyesight is weak but they have great smell and hearing).
    Three, carcass disposal. Hunting is more than just finding a prey and shoot. You gotta know what to do with it afterwards. Leaving carcasses to rot would naturally be huge hygienic issue, and those things are host to whole heap of parasites and diseases. Personally, I wouldn't cook and eat a wild hog unless the carcass was vetted by a vet. Do you think there are enough vets, and people responsible enough, that every single kill would be either properly checked out or buried deep enough?
    Hogs are pest animals in Texas, there is no closed season or bag limit on them.
    African poachers often use AK47s to kill elephants and rhinos so the 7.62x39 would do fine for hog hunting.
    You can sell the carcases to processing plants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mithradates View Post
    Hogs are pest animals in Texas, there is no closed season or bag limit on them.
    African poachers often use AK47s to kill elephants and rhinos so the 7.62x39 would do fine for hog hunting.
    You can sell the carcases to processing plants.
    Yeah, but you still need hunting permit. I'm not aware of specifics for US, but I do not think it's as simple as a phone call.
    It's a little different with automatics and such big targets. Hogs have low profile and can accelerate quite well. Putting a dozen rounds in one isn't that easy if you're packing only semi-auto or bolt action. Aren't fully automatic weapons banned from civilian ownership in Texas?

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    @Sarin

    No, you can own them, you can buy them, you just can’t produce full auto weapons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sar1n View Post
    Yeah, but you still need hunting permit. I'm not aware of specifics for US, but I do not think it's as simple as a phone call.
    It's a little different with automatics and such big targets. Hogs have low profile and can accelerate quite well. Putting a dozen rounds in one isn't that easy if you're packing only semi-auto or bolt action. Aren't fully automatic weapons banned from civilian ownership in Texas?
    On private lands (95% of Texas) you dont need a permit to kill wild hogs or coyotes, if you are the owner or you have his permission you are free to kill them.
    Hogs are no that tough, you dont need to put a dozen 7.62x39 rounds in a hog, it will go down form 1 or 2.

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    Interesting trends in the news. Millennials reaching prime income years are helping the US defy global economic stagnation, even as US population growth hits record lows and young millennials are likely to be poorer relative to their forebears at the same period of their lives. As China and Russia face demographic challenges of their own, will any of this have a significant impact as we enter an era of great power competition that has so far centered on economic and technological prowess?

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    This is an oddly accurate metaphor for Trumpists/right wingers in the US today. The character playing the “moderate” devil’s advocate who scolds everyone else for failing to compromise or reach out the other side is why the left loses. Allowing disingenuous ideologues to reframe issues and compel others to fit reality into that framing is how the truth gets buried.

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    Southern Irish youth appear to have amnesia around Sinn Fein’s past as the PIRA.
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    Southern Irish youth appear to have amnesia around Sinn Fein’s past as the PIRA.
    That's understandable:

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    lmao.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WaPo: Mr. Bob,’ 88-year-old crossing guard, saves two children’s lives before sacrificing his own
    The kids knew him as Mr. Bob.
    He was there to greet them when they went to school in the morning and when they left in the afternoon, standing in the middle of Leavenworth Road with a stop sign in his hand and a supply of Russell Stover peppermints in his pocket.
    For Valentine’s Day last week, the kids brought the 88-year-old crossing guard mugs full of candy and made him a card, and for Christmas one year he gave some of them presents.
    But on Tuesday morning, the children at Christ the King Catholic School in Kansas City, Kan., saw Bob Nill for the last time.
    It was about five minutes before 8 a.m., five minutes until the first bell rang and Nill’s job ushering kids through the crosswalk would be over for the morning. Two young boys, in third and fifth grade, had just stepped off the curb.
    But just then, Nill motioned for them to step back, said school principal Cathy Fithian. He saw a black sedan speeding toward them. He could sense that it wasn’t stopping or slowing, despite Nill’s big red sign and the school zone’s flashing yellow lights.
    Nill held his position in the middle of the road, which is where the car struck and killed him.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...g-guard-killed
    RIP to an average every day American hero.

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