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  1. November 10, 2019, 01:09 PM #1
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    Colchis( Kingdom Of Egrisi) and Iberia (Kingdom Of Kartli ) - information and pictures

    Warning - This topivc about Iberia-Colchis is the most exact. Please ,You should egnorate all theme even wath opened before about Iberia-Colchis.There was many wrong subject. I have already learnt more than up to now .


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     Old Georgian Symbol - Borjgali . Georgian Borjgali is With seven beams .








    Iberian Warrior - IV-III c BC






    this is Iberian plate helmet From the side view. sorry, image is bad quality.
























    Maps

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    Georgian tribes in 20'th - 10'th century BC.




    Early Georgian Kingdoms: Colchis, Diaeuhi and Hurrian-Georgian     (Chaldian) Kingdom Of Urartu












    Georgian (Kartvelian ) Tribes and other Caucasian Tribes , After Fall Of Hurrian-Georgian ( Chaldian) Kingdom - Urartu.
    Georgian tribes were : Chalybes ,Chaldaei, Tibareni, Mosynoeci, Colchi, Macrones ,Saspires, Taochi, Gogari, Phasiani, Moschi, Lazi, Iberi, Coraxi, Abasgi, Heniochi.








    270 BC - Europe and Georgian Kingdoms




    Kingdom of Iberia, III c. BC





    Gneus Pompeus's Campaigns in Georgia (Colchis and Iberia) 66 - 63 BC




    PDF Files and Web Pages

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    Prehistoric Georgia

    Mesolithic Hunters at Kotias Klde, Western Georgia: Preliminary Results
    http://www.mediafire.com/file/sz7azi...ester.pdf/file


    Bronze Age Georgia


    Didnauri - XIII-IX century BC . Ancient relics, human remains found at Georgia’s Didnauri historic settlement
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Didnauri
    https://agenda.ge/en/news/2016/1787

    Grakliani - XI-X century BC.     Rewriting history: 3000-yr-old script uncovered in Georgia
    https://agenda.ge/en/news/2016/1803

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    Maya Gambashidze -Assyriology, Hittite archaeology
    https://tsu-ge.academia.edu/mgambashidze



    On the Question of Ethno genesis of Georgian tribes
    http://www.mediafire.com/file/3exb4f..._Geor.pdf/file

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    Gela Gamkrelidze - Archaeologist, Doctor of historical sciences, Prof., Leading scientistof the Centre of Archaeology of Georgian National Museum. He is the editor-in-chief of the Journal Iberia – Colchis (Researches of Georgia in the Classical period) . He was born in Tbilisi in 7.01.1951. In 1973 hegraduated Tbilisi state university. In 1979 he defended Ph.D. thesis and in 1990 DHS dissertation. He participated in Vani, Mtisdziri, Poti, Namakhvami, Vale and other archeological expeditions. In 1979 heexplored terms of Mtisdziri settlement. He has discovered the settlement near city Poti-Phasis . He has beenstudying issues related to the history and archeology of the Georgian Classical period and early middle ages.In particular, relationship of Iberia and Colchis with Greek, Roman and Iranian world; typologicalclassification and topographical archeology of settlements; influence of bio-geo environment on the processof historical development of community in Georgia; the military history of Iberia-Colchis (armament andfortification). He has published 16 books and 96 scientific essays dedicated to the above-mentioned problems. He is an authority on the history and archeology of Georgian Classical period and early middleages.
    https://georgiannationalmuseum.acade...elaGamkrelidze


    Weapons and Armour in Georgia (5th century BC - 4th century AD)
    part 1 http://www.mediafire.com/file/zblqgv...art_1.pdf/file
    part 2 http://www.mediafire.com/file/jdexbo...art_2.pdf/file


    WAR AND ARMAMENT IN IBERIA-COLCHIS (GEORGIA)
    http://www.mediafire.com/file/5ahkns...59554.pdf/file


    Researches on the Archaeology and History of Georgiain the Classical and Early Medieval Period
    Vol.15 http://www.mediafire.com/file/tf89vq...ol_15.pdf/file
    Vol.14 http://www.mediafire.com/file/ubdcbn..._2018.pdf/file
    Vol.12 http://www.mediafire.com/file/w0xzxl...searc.pdf/file
    Vol.11 http://www.mediafire.com/file/62ii4r...SMALL.pdf/file
    Vol.10 http://www.mediafire.com/file/dlk1v5...chaeo.pdf/file
    Vol. 7 http://www.mediafire.com/file/fyu1xx...es_on.pdf/file
    http://www.mediafire.com/file/g6p3z3...ology.pdf/file
    http://www.mediafire.com/file/28omco...s.Geo.pdf/file


    ARCHAEOLOGY OF THE ROMAN PERIOD OF GEORGIA (Iberia-Colchis)
    http://www.mediafire.com/file/fn10d1...rgia..pdf/file

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    Irakli Anchabadze - Irakli Anchabadze did his BA in Political Studies during 2000-2004 at Sokhumi State University. During the years 2007-2009 he did his MA at Ivane Javakhishvili State University majoring in Archaeology. From 2012 he is employed at the Institute of Archaeology at Sokhumi State University.

    Axes in the Ancient and Early Middle Ages in Iberia-Colchis
    http://www.mediafire.com/file/9mdy87...lchis.pdf/file


    Georgian archeology

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    Colch-Iberian Types and Cavalry - From Georgian Archeology

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    Iberian Man From Trialeti Chalice 18th-17th century BC - Holy ceremony
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trialeti_Chalice



    Iberian Man VI-IV c BC

    Colchian Man VI-IV c BC



    Iberian and Cochian Cavalry IV-III c BC





    Kutaisi fountain- Larger Copy



    Iberian Battle Chariot VI-IV c BC









    Colchian Woman IV-III BC








    Weapons - Archaeological Materials (Only Period Of Game)
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    Colchian Warrior -Weapons



    Spears



    III century BC - 33,37 cm



    III century BC- 34cm





    III century BC -33, 37cm



    III,II century BC- 25,34 cm



    III,II century BC - 41,46 cm



    III,II century BC - 25,27 cm





    III,II century BC-25 cm



    III,II century BC -34 cm



    III,II century BC -29 cm


    Javelins





    IV,III century BC - 21,27 cm


    Swords





    IV,III century BC - 50 to 80 cm





    VI,I century BC - 55 to 75 cm







    dagger

    I century BC- 29 cm


    Axes







    III,II century BC



    IV,II century BC





    Iberian Warrior - Weapons

    Spears


    I century BC , I century AD - 31 cm

    II century BC-20cm

    III century BC-20cm

    IV-III century BC-48cm

    IV-III century BC - 40cm

    IV-III century BC -35 cm

    IV-III century BC - 20cm

    IV-III century BC - 30 cm

    IV-III century BC - 45,48 cm



    IV-III century BC -25 to 26 cm



    IV-III century BC -35 cm


    javelins

    IV-III century BC - 13cm


    IV-III century BC- 15,17 cm

    IV-III century BC- 25cm

    Axes




    IV-III century BC






    All Georgian Archaeological Materials : 5 th century BC - 1 th century AD .
    http://www.mediafire.com/file/cn90ms...um_II.rar/file



    My Art

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    Colchian warrior Iberian Warrior


    Colch- Iberian warrior , Svan Warrior


    Iberian Warrior Chaldean Warrior





    Colchian Warrior





    Shield Iberia-Colchis






    Iberia-Colchis head Guards : 1.Iberia-Chaldean 2. Colchis 3.Iberia 4.Iberia-Colchis 5.Iberia






    Ancient Georgian alphabet, culture and Units names

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    Old Georgian Alphabet and writhing
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    King Pharnavaz I - Asomtavruli alphabet- 3 th century BC

    Jumati-Colchian writing 6th c BC-2th c BC


    Grakliani writhing 11th -10th c BC


    Khevsureti writhing -in caucasus mountains












    Nekresi writhing 1th c AD -3th c AD







    Units Native Names
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    Iberians Spearmens - Shubosanni Kartlisani
    Iberians Cavalry- Mkhedarni Kartlisani
    Iberians Warriors - Meomarni Kartlisani

    Colchians Spearmens - Egrisali Borzalamephi
    Colchians Skrimshers - Egrisali Khesh-borzalamephi
    Colchian Warrior- Egrisali Malimarephi

    Chaldian Spearmens - Chani Borzalamephi
    Chaldian Warrior - Chani Malimorephi

    Svan Warriors - Mushvan Meshialaa
    Svan Archers - Mushvan Mtskhemdamalaa

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    Iberia-Kartli. Iberians -Kartlelni ,
    Kingdom of Iberia - Kartlis Samepho

    Colchis - Egrisi . Colchians - Egrephi
    Kingdom of Colchis - Egrisish Omaphe

    Chaldia, Chalibea - Chanephi .
    Chaldians , Chalibeans - Chanephi




    It's possible to create such units
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    1.Iberian shock Cavalry - Mkhedarni Kartlisani
    2.Iberian Skrimshers Cavalry- Mkhedarni Satkhedosanni
    3.Iberian Battle Chariots - Etlni Sabrdzoloni
    4.Iberian Spearmens - Shubosanni Kartlisani
    5.Iberian Swordsmens - Makhvilosanni Kartlisani
    6.Iberian Skrimshers / Axeman - Satkhedosanni/Tsulosanni Kartlisani
    7.Iberian Archers - Mshvilosanni Kartlisani

    8.Colchian Skrimshers / Axemans -Egrisali Khesh Bordzalamephi
    9.Colchian Swordsmens - Egrisali Malimorephi
    10.Colchian Hoplites - Egrisali Bordzalamephi
    11.Colchian Archers - Egrisali Mesthaganeephi
    12. Colchian Slingers - Egrisali Meshqurdumephi

    13.Chaldian phalanx - Chani Borzalamephi
    14.Chaldian Skrimshers / Swordsmens - Chani Khesh-borzalamephi

    15. Svan Hunters Archer - Mushvan Mtskhedamalaa




    Georgian Folk Music :
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5jxHt-f6jY

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rcDZhzxl_8

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XcjldoQaMA

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faYO_worE_A

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SA27VIGehI


    Georgian song in Space - Chakrulo

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDdWFewtfzY


    svan Folk

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-zKgpz1m0o

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiCWj3EDks8

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sM5mMW_T4Y

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAtgawjkrqM


    Georgian Battle Music

    https://soundcloud.com/binuli-1/pher...tHOfEQm7aX-aD0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE3UaeAlfP4

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBuqLackegA

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtP-FS-sz1A

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlKvUytZ_Wg

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QrQ7nPsjkE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx7kQV59F2Q

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0scKFHrTd4


    Georgian song- belongs to a Urartian deity "Arale"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExkXJcx7RZ4




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  2. November 11, 2019, 09:15 AM #2
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    Interesting. It's nice to read more on such a relatively obscure corner of the Ancient World.
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  3. November 11, 2019, 11:05 AM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Croccer View Post
    Interesting. It's nice to read more on such a relatively obscure corner of the Ancient World.

    I agree
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  4. November 13, 2019, 10:56 AM #4
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    I am working
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  5. November 13, 2019, 09:20 PM #5
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    I uploaded all materials : according to centuries - Spears, swords, shields, helmets, armours and skins .
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  6. November 14, 2019, 02:57 AM #6
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    Very nice and accurate! I hope we will see this units of Colchians and Iberians in EBII
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  7. November 14, 2019, 10:11 AM #7
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    Great collection of materials for Georgia! +rep!
    Dominik Pešut,
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  8. November 15, 2019, 06:57 PM #8
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    Thanks guys
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  9. November 17, 2019, 11:39 AM #9
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    I draw Iberia-Colchis shields and Headguards








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  10. November 18, 2019, 03:40 PM #10
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    my fast sketch Iberian Warrior-"Meomarni Kartlisani" - IV-III century BC

    That's 100% historically accurate

    Iberian Battle Song !!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QrQ7nPsjkE





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    All data uploaded! Write to me on Facebook. thank you for attention
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  12. November 19, 2019, 02:30 PM #12
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    Your work is priceless.
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    Levan


    thanks .

    Iberian warrior - "Meomarni Kartlisani " - This is very original warrior. Master of fiery fencing
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  14. November 26, 2019, 07:07 AM #14
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    The Caucasus is very forested And a high mountainous Strategic place. With narrow passages
    In the game Caucasus is like a steppe


    1.Kelasuri Wall
    2.Apsaros castle
    3.Rikoti Pass
    4.Kura ravine
    5. Castle Aragvi Gate ( Dariali , alan: Dari-Alan )


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    Castles And City in Colchis-Iberia . Reconstructions


    Colchian Fortress on the mountains


    Colchian Fortress on the mountains





    Colchian Fortress on the mountains


    Colchian Fortress - In the lowlands


    Vani - Colchis





    Mtskheta - Armazi Castle






    Mtskheta - City








    Iberians battle Formations




    Iberians in attack
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  16. December 05, 2019, 01:03 PM #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khevsur View Post
    I draw Iberia-Colchis shields and Headguards








    Very impressive drawing! What are the shields based on?
    I recommend a pugio rather than a spear, because in close quarters combat, a dagger will serve you better than a spear.

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    From book : Weapons and Armour in Georgia (5th century BC - 4th century AD)

    http://www.mediafire.com/file/zblqgv...art_1.pdf/file
    http://www.mediafire.com/file/jdexbo...art_2.pdf/file
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    Thank you. I will try to find the text about the shields.
    I recommend a pugio rather than a spear, because in close quarters combat, a dagger will serve you better than a spear.

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    see In my first post - PDF Files and Web Pages. gela gamkrelidze - Vol.11
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