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    Default How far right propaganda works: "Eat the Babies" climate activist was a fake

    A Pro-Trump Conspiracy Group Planted A Fake Climate Activist Who Suggested “Eating Babies” At An AOC Town Hall Meeting


    The president and the far right slammed Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez over the bizarre town hall speaker who suggested eating babies to solve the climate crisis. But the pro-Trump LaRouche PAC, which believes climate change is a hoax, said it planted the troll.

    President Donald Trump, his son Don Jr., and far-right conservatives attacked Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez after a speaker at her town hall meeting Thursday night went on a bizarre rant about how eating babies is the only solution to the climate crisis.

    But it turns out the stunt was staged by what is now a far-right pro-Trump conspiracy group that compares climate change activism to “genocide.”

    Trump called Ocasio-Cortez a “wack job” on Twitter after his allies widely shared the video of the unidentified woman saying that Ocasio-Cortez’s Green New Deal was not enough to solve the climate crisis.

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    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...troll-larouche


    This incident show clearly how the far right populists use the social media as weapon to misinform the electorate.

    It shows further how important it is to inform yourself with the help of professional media. You should learn in school, what the dangers of social media are.

    What do you think?
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    Default Re: How far right propaganda works: "Eat the Babies" climate activist was a fake

    AOC is a stupid person that says stupid things, and got deservedly trolled. Screeching about "far-right propaganda" makes it even more hilarious.

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    Default Re: How far right propaganda works: "Eat the Babies" climate activist was a fake

    We knew the woman was planted by Pro-Trumpers since like 2 days after the event. Also, not all the people that criticized AOC are far-right conservatives. But yes, it is trolling, it was meant to divide and it was a hit below the belt.

    Aside of the clear anti-Trump propaganda that is the first post, I 100% agree that schools and modern education should take a stance to inform kids and parents about the dangers of social media, the divisive attacks and propaganda spread by both sides. Conservative Propaganda like the one the original post talks about and progressive propaganda like the original post itself.
    The dangers of radicalization by ISIS, far-right groups, far-left groups etc should be explained and the parents should be vigilant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alhoon View Post
    We knew the woman was planted by Pro-Trumpers since like 2 days after the event. Also, not all the people that criticized AOC are far-right conservatives. But yes, it is trolling, it was meant to divide and it was a hit below the belt.

    Aside of the clear anti-Trump propaganda that is the first post, I 100% agree that schools and modern education should take a stance to inform kids and parents about the dangers of social media, the divisive attacks and propaganda spread by both sides. Conservative Propaganda like the one the original post talks about and progressive propaganda like the original post itself.
    The dangers of radicalization by ISIS, far-right groups, far-left groups etc should be explained and the parents should be vigilant.
    You really have to stop this "both sides" nonsense. It's intellectually lazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Love Mountain View Post
    You really have to stop this "both sides" nonsense. It's intellectually lazy.
    It's not nonsense, both sides have people that do that stuff and are intellectually lazy.

    Quote Originally Posted by PointOfViewGun View Post
    Can you provide an example from the other side that is similar to what was described in the original post?
    I said "The dangers of social media, the divisive attacks and propaganda spread by both sides" I didn't limit it to "Propaganda spread by planted trolls in political rallies". Do you disagree that both sides do divisive attacks and spread propaganda through social media?
    Do you really need me to post examples of divisive attacks and propaganda? It is very easy to find.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alhoon View Post
    It's not nonsense, both sides have people that do that stuff and are intellectually lazy.
    Really? Why don't you show me where a leftist fringe group planted a phony alt-right activist to discredit a politician within their town hall?

    I said "The dangers of social media, the divisive attacks and propaganda spread by both sides" I didn't limit it to "Propaganda spread by planted trolls in political rallies". Do you disagree that both sides do divisive attacks and spread propaganda through social media? Do you really need me to post examples of divisive attacks and propaganda? It is very easy to find.
    Yeah mate. Imagine how evil it is to hold dumb politicians accountable. Instead of preaching about the evils of social media and propaganda, just be smarter. Or, like so many selfless young men and women, go out there to try to educate people. Your both sides nonsense is silly that adds literally nothing to the discourse except a phony sense of moral equivalency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Love Mountain View Post
    Really? Why don't you show me where a leftist fringe group planted a phony alt-right activist to discredit a politician within their town hall?
    Answered in the second part you quoted

    Quote Originally Posted by Love Mountain View Post
    Yeah mate. Imagine how evil it is to hold dumb politicians accountable. Instead of preaching about the evils of social media and propaganda, just be smarter. Or, like so many selfless young men and women, go out there to try to educate people. Your both sides nonsense is silly that adds literally nothing to the discourse except a phony sense of moral equivalency.
    Dumb politicians exist in both sides of the divide. Both sides are morally equivalent and both sides have buttholes and snowflakes. Neither side is better.

    I didn't just preach about the evils of social media and propaganda, I suggested going out there and educating people.
    Quote Originally Posted by alhoon View Post
    I 100% agree that schools and modern education should take a stance to inform kids and parents about the dangers of social media, the divisive attacks and propaganda spread by both sides. [...]
    The dangers of radicalization by ISIS, far-right groups, far-left groups etc should be explained and the parents should be vigilant.
    See? You're more or less saying what I said while accusing me of not saying.
    Glad you agree with everything I say except that neither side is better than the other.

    Quote Originally Posted by PointOfViewGun View Post
    This is a thread that features a sort of false flag act.
    Noooope, this is a thread to discuss political propaganda in the abstract sense, hence it is in the academy. It just provides an example.
    Propaganda from Goebbels, to communist propaganda of USSR, to planted trolls in debates, to antifa provocateurs often planted in rightwing rallies aaaaaaaall fall into the context of this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alhoon View Post
    I said "The dangers of social media, the divisive attacks and propaganda spread by both sides" I didn't limit it to "Propaganda spread by planted trolls in political rallies". Do you disagree that both sides do divisive attacks and spread propaganda through social media?
    Do you really need me to post examples of divisive attacks and propaganda? It is very easy to find.
    This is a thread that features a sort of false flag act. I need you to post an example where something similar to that happened from the other side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alhoon View Post
    We knew the woman was planted by Pro-Trumpers since like 2 days after the event. Also, not all the people that criticized AOC are far-right conservatives. But yes, it is trolling, it was meant to divide and it was a hit below the belt.

    Aside of the clear anti-Trump propaganda that is the first post, I 100% agree that schools and modern education should take a stance to inform kids and parents about the dangers of social media, the divisive attacks and propaganda spread by both sides. Conservative Propaganda like the one the original post talks about and progressive propaganda like the original post itself.
    The dangers of radicalization by ISIS, far-right groups, far-left groups etc should be explained and the parents should be vigilant.
    Can you provide an example from the other side that is similar to what was described in the original post?
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    Default Re: How far right propaganda works: "Eat the Babies" climate activist was a fake

    Let's keep in mind that communist cannibalism is an hallmark of the left, according to those right-wing abysmal idiots.
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    This just proves the utter abhorrence of right wing ideas. If anything the right wanted was at all attractive to decent human beings, lying and deception wouldn't have to be their first and often only tactic.

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    It says a lot about the quality, and mental sanity, of democrat politics when a person ranting about eating babies is taken seriously for even 1 pico-second. The only way the troll would have been even more obvious is if she wore an "I'm a troll" t-shirt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Settra View Post
    It says a lot about the quality, and mental sanity, of democrat politics when a person ranting about eating babies is taken seriously for even 1 pico-second.

    You people need Bernie like a desert needs water.
    It says something about the mental sanity that a person was treated with respect? Pretty sure you'd find something negative to say regardless of what happened.

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    I didn't watch the video because Buzzfeed. OP led me to believe that she was taken seriously and her being a troll was a major revelation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Love Mountain View Post
    It says something about the mental sanity that a person was treated with respect? Pretty sure you'd find something negative to say regardless of what happened.
    Respect is earned not demanded or handed out on a silver platter, especially not to somebody who is mentally ill or obviously trolling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Settra View Post
    I didn't watch the video because Buzzfeed. OP led me to believe that she was taken seriously and her being a troll was a major revelation.

    Respect is earned not demanded or handed out on a silver platter, especially not to somebody who is mentally ill or obviously trolling.
    It was earned. Respect is automatically assumed seeing as how this is a town hall and AOC serves in a public office by election. Or should AOC have asked the crazy lady whether she voted for her first?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Love Mountain View Post
    It was earned. Respect is automatically assumed seeing as how this is a town hall and AOC serves in a public office by election. Or should AOC have asked the crazy lady whether she voted for her first?
    Nice strawmern you have there. The lady should have been asked to sit down shut up and not allowed to finish her tirade, or better yet don't allow a free mike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Settra View Post
    It says a lot about the quality, and mental sanity, of democrat politics when a person ranting about eating babies is taken seriously for even 1 pico-second.
    I watched the video. Nobody in that room took her seriously. I and everybody else in the room assumed she was mentally ill, the poor girl. This abject comedy says a lot about the right wing intellectual indigence, and lack of intellectual integrity.
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    There is no doubt that the PAC is currently pro-Trump...

    https://twitter.com/larouchepac?lang=en


    Mind you when discussing climate change, people should take heed of what the science says. A child could (quite literally) tell one that.
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    I'm not bored enough right now to go looking through old articles, but I recall at least two instances when leftists faked an attack against them by Trump supporters. IIRC One was, maybe a year ago, an actor from a minority (black and gay I think, but not sure), another was a staged break-in, I remember reading an article about it maybe a month ago.

    If you want to go digging, be my guest.

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    I wish people would stop this "both sides do it/are the same" nonsense. Really, it's okay to note that one side is wrong and lying and the other side is right and telling the truth.

    Right is not the same as wrong. Truth is not the same as lies. Let's not pretend they are.

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