The successes of President Donald Trump and their under-reporting by the media (please, no flaming)

[Sir Adrian]

And yet this has been happening in the auto industry for a bunch of years now

using computers to design, model, and test aircraft before an actual prototype is built

Again, you're taking a marketing campaign and making it sound like the next hot water invention.

[PointOfViewGun]

And yet this has been happening in the auto industry for a bunch of years now
Again, you're taking a marketing campaign and making it sound like the next hot water invention.

Whatever you're understanding it to be, its not how F-35 was designed. It's a product of mid 2010s. A stealth fighter jet is not a VW Golf.

[alhoon]

Obama was as the project started before Trump.

It got the get go months before Trump and then was finished in lighting speed under Trump.

Look at how successfully Trump got COVID19 into his system. He should be applauded for that.

That was a good one. However, the Media didn't under-report Trump's success in getting COVID19 despite the countless measures and personnel dedicated to the 74-years old man NOT get COVID.

[antaeus]

A stealth fighter jet is not a VW Golf.

Not literally... but the way it is used for diplomacy - buying factory jobs across the globe to improve local politician's support - makes it exactly a VW Golf.

[PointOfViewGun]

Not literally... but the way it is used for diplomacy - buying factory jobs across the globe to improve local politician's support - makes it exactly a VW Golf.

Which has no relation to what we're talking about since we're not talking about factory jobs but design process.

[alhoon]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...itic-hardline/

You may disagree with Trump a lot, but his policies, stance and threats worked to turn Saudi Arabia closer to Israel. At least at the time Middle East seems more peaceful as it has been since Bush2 attacked Iraq for Halliburton.

[mishkin]

Many of us we are not suscribed to the telegraph/cant read the article

[conon394]

You may disagree with Trump a lot, but his policies, stance and threats worked to turn Saudi Arabia closer to Israel. At least at the time Middle East seems more peaceful as it has been since Bush2 attacked Iraq for Halliburton.

Yes but if you start from a position of not caring and or care more about keeping involved/turning a blind eye to Yemen I see no success. Doing nothing to stop money from the house of Saud pumping up its preferred form of radical Islam all over the world, again no success. Extracting the US from a damning alliance to what should be a pariah state still no success.

[alhoon]

I disagree. Saudis pump less money to radical Islam across the world now.

@Miskhin, you can google the article and find it in different sources or find similar articles. Here's the Times of Israel. I am not subscribed there and I can see the article, so I guess everyone can.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/anti-s...itoring-group/




"Attitudes towards Israel are becoming “more balanced and tolerant,” the group said in the statement. As an example, it noted the removal of an entire chapter that was titled “the Zionist danger” that delegitimized Israel’s right to exist. More generally, the majority of references to jihad have been removed, whereas a decade ago the focus of the curriculum was to prepare students for martyrdom, the group found."

[PointOfViewGun]

I disagree. Saudis pump less money to radical Islam across the world now.

How much ere they pumping? How much are they pumping now?

[alhoon]

How much ere they pumping? How much are they pumping now?

I don't have exact numbers, but going by the articles above... they're pumping less than they were. For example they stopped focusing their curriculum on Martyrdom in the Jihad. That alone is a good deal of money.

[Infidel144]

"Attitudes towards Israel are becoming “more balanced and tolerant,” the group said in the statement. As an example, it noted the removal of an entire chapter that was titled “the Zionist danger” that delegitimized Israel’s right to exist. More generally, the majority of references to jihad have been removed, whereas a decade ago the focus of the curriculum was to prepare students for martyrdom, the group found."

As though that is a good thing...

[alhoon]

You think that not preparing young kids for martyrdom and Jihad is not a good thing?

[sumskilz]

You think that not preparing young kids for martyrdom and Jihad is not a good thing?

His point, which doubles as a joke, is that it depends upon who you ask. There are a lot people who do consider jihad against the Zionist entity and martyrdom serving that cause to be a good thing.

Come on alhoon, I've been told that Greeks invented sarcasm, along with everything else.

[PointOfViewGun]

I don't have exact numbers, but going by the articles above... they're pumping less than they were. For example they stopped focusing their curriculum on Martyrdom in the Jihad. That alone is a good deal of money.

Not teaching kids about the concept of martyrdom is spending less money now?

[alhoon]

Not teaching kids about the concept of martyrdom is spending less money now?

obviously.

[PointOfViewGun]

obviously.

How? How does teacher skipping that subject in school effect the funding various groups around the globe receive from Saudi Arabia?

[alhoon]

How? How does teacher skipping that subject in school effect the funding various groups around the globe receive from Saudi Arabia?

Not teaching kids about the concept of martyrdom is spending less money now?

Since I have to explain the obvious:
A whole chapter from books removed =
- You don't pay teachers to teach said chapter
- You don't pay to print this chapter

This is money not spent on radicalizing youth. This is money the hardcores in education of Saudi Arabia don't receive.

And far more important than the many thousands of Saudi man-hours, not financially but culturally is the fact that Saudi Arabia's curriculum becomes far more neutral.

[PointOfViewGun]

Since I have to explain the obvious:
A whole chapter from books removed =
- You don't pay teachers to teach said chapter
- You don't pay to print this chapter
This is money not spent on radicalizing youth. This is money the hardcores in education of Saudi Arabia don't receive.
And far more important than the many thousands of Saudi man-hours, not financially but culturally is the fact that Saudi Arabia's curriculum becomes far more neutral.

This isn't just false but its as petty as it gets. Clearly, you made a claim without checking its validity the slightest. I can only hope that the next generation gets better at acknowledging an obviously stupid claim for what it is...

[alhoon]

This isn't just false but its as petty as it gets. Clearly, you made a claim without checking its validity the slightest. I can only hope that the next generation gets better at acknowledging an obviously stupid claim for what it is...

Seriously? You actually consider the claim that removing a whole chapter on Martyrdom and Jihad leads to deradicalization of Saudi Arabia's youth and is less money spent in spreading extremism ... as a "false and petty" claim? Seriously?

I wonder how far Trump's sworn detractors would go to deny the few but obvious successes of Donald Trump.