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    Quote Originally Posted by alhoon View Post
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...776_story.html

    Justice department ends 2-years investigation on Hillary too, having found nothing.
    The witch-hunts against Hillary Clinton, under a Republican administration, failed to find anything of substance for years. Nothing terribly bad about the emails (State department), nothing about Clinton foundation.

    Unlike Trump and his prosecution complex (not that he won't face witch-hunts by the democrats, they're as bad) Hillary didn't start tweeting for weeks about it. Still it must be vindication for a woman that has been used as the scapegoat for Republican failures for years and lost the election over things that were nothing serious (emails) or allegations that were simply not true (corruption).
    At this point people who spout conspiracy theories about Clinton can no longer tell what's true or what's false outside of the cult's dogma. They hate Clinton because the cult tells them to. If the cult told them tomorrow they loved her, they would and completely deny they spent decades claiming she was the most evil person in human history.

    (not that he won't face witch-hunts by the democrats, they're as bad)
    No they are not. Not even close. See, Trump actually does the things he's accused of, and he does them in plain sight because he knows his cult would excuse it if he murdered their families. Trump is everything the cult claimed Clinton is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coughdrop addict View Post
    No they are not. Not even close. See, Trump actually does the things he's accused of, and he does them in plain sight because he knows his cult would excuse it if he murdered their families. Trump is everything the cult claimed Clinton is.
    Yeaaaah, no, he doesn't do all the things he's accused of. Hillary also did some of the things she was accused of (email thing) but they were minor nothingburgers, like Trump's tax records being a nothingburger.
    Of course, by now everyone has figured Trump is hiding his tax records to not show he wasn't paying taxes for years and to hide his many bankruptcies but he has already painted himself as "smart" for not paying taxes and his many business failures are all over the net. So he just keeps them under wraps for the laughs and giggles at this point and simply because he's a butthole.

    The all-important Mueller witchhunt has also not been able to pin anything on Trump. Sure, sure, it didn't exonerate him from everything either, but the same can be said about Hillary getting scotfree out of the email thing. The important thing here, the similarity if you want, is that the witch-hunt about the Russians could not find any solid proof against the PotUS himself.
    Exactly like Hillary's emails, there was no "Smoking gun". The end.

    Both sides have large numbers of partisan buttholes and people with blinders. Democrats are exactly as bad.
    It is just that Trump is far more reckless and gives them more ammo.


    Also, to be honest, few people aside of Hitler and Stalin were as bad as the Lock-her-uppers paint Hillary to be. Trump is worse than Hillary. But he's not worse than the imaginary Hillary-devil of the Retardican Lock-her-uppers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alhoon View Post
    Yeaaaah, no, he doesn't do all the things he's accused of. Hillary also did some of the things she was accused of (email thing) but they were minor nothingburgers, like Trump's tax records being a nothingburger.
    Of course, by now everyone has figured Trump is hiding his tax records to not show he wasn't paying taxes for years and to hide his many bankruptcies but he has already painted himself as "smart" for not paying taxes and his many business failures are all over the net. So he just keeps them under wraps for the laughs and giggles at this point and simply because he's a butthole.

    I'm having a hard time thinking of things that Trump didn't do that he's been accused of. Reasonably speaking of course. I'm aware that Trump doesn't eat children or torture Mexicans in the White House basement. Similarly, I honestly don't know how one can characterize Trump's tax returns as a "nothingburger". In fact, I would like his tax returns to be public at all times. This is especially pertinent when we consider that Trump may be profiteering from the Presidency. Besides how inappropriate this is for an elected official, it may also be harming the interests of the nation. The articles of impeachment do after all accuse Trump of abusing his power, I doubt the Ukraine thing is the only instance of Trump abusing his powers.

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    Trump being seriously corrupt is not a nothingburger. Asking for his tax returns in 2020 while he was elected by USA voters in 2016 by never releasing them = the USA voters think it's not important. We know he's rich, we know he had many bankruptcies and we know he used those to not pay taxes for several years while he's a damn billionaire. Is it really important whether he avoided taxes for 7 years or 9 years when it wasn't important in 2016?

    Also, about things Trump wasn't proven to have done although he's accused of them: Colluding with the Russians. BUT I prefer to focus on things Hillary was never found guilty of: Corruption, Benghazi, anything serious in her nothingburger email scandal.
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    Default Re: State Department's investigation on Hillary's email scandal \ DoJ investigation on corruption ends

    Quote Originally Posted by alhoon View Post
    Trump being seriously corrupt is not a nothingburger. Asking for his tax returns in 2020 while he was elected by USA voters in 2016 by never releasing them = the USA voters think it's not important.
    They're not mutually exclusive. You can have the lowest opinion of Trump ever, but simply not vote Democrat. In fact, that's how "centrist" Republicans on Forums such as these have been justifying it for years now.

    Also, about things Trump wasn't proven to have done although he's accused of them: Colluding with the Russians. BUT I prefer to focus on things Hillary was never found guilty of: Corruption, Benghazi, anything serious in her nothingburger email scandal.
    "Proving" something is a steep curve. There's been more than enough evidence to make a reasonable argument. Such a person should not be President and the fact that he remains to be one, is because the political system allows him to be. On the other hand, after a thorough investigation, there is very little Hillary can be accused of that's particularly unbecoming of a high level government official or politician. Trump and Hillary are magnitudes apart.

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    I would agree that Trump and Hillary are apart, but I wouldn't call it "magnitudes".

    Also, thanks to some smart people in the late 18th century, the PotUS has little effect on day-to-day lives of USA citizens. Few things the PotUS can do will affect the people directly. There will be a little effect in many things and a lot of effect in a few things, but Judicial system + Congress + Governor + State legislature + City legislature etc etc limit the impact of the PotUS and what he can do.
    Power is shared, the PotUS has little power by himself.

    In the 2nd term of trump, if he loses the senate he would be a lame duck president where the senate and house over-rule everything he tries to do and block all his appointments, while the Justice system will take down some of his executive orders.
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