Another white identitarian mass murder broadcast on the internet.

[swabian]

Racist nonsence.

Nefarious slander. Are you proud of crap like this? I never said that people are born with unchangeable cultural traits, nor would i ever say that. Race doesn't have squat to do with that. For example, there's Mohamad Tawhidi, whom i can actually respect, and then there is Pierre Vogel who is a total douchebag.

Until NATO was formed Europe was probably one of the more violent continents. You know, the continent that fought constant wars and rounded up and killed 6m jews?

Certainly not when it comes to aspects of everyday life, like women's rights, homosexual's rights, children's rights, crime rates and antisocial punishment (like honor killings, stoning and mutilation). A European girl that was raped in 1900 wouldn't have to fear that she's gonna be punished for adultery on top of that or be forced to marry her rapist. Aside from warfare, Europe made much faster progress towards recognition of civil rights and human rights since 1700. Some Islamic countries have hardly made any progress at all since the 18th century. It's foolish to assume immigrants wouldn't bring their native acculturation - in other words their mindset - with them, especially if they are living together in large communities with little external influence.

[Heathen Hammer]

Why did the moderator say this? 'Also, promotion of illegal activities, such as praising of terrorist acts, will be dealt with very severely, while ridiculing the victims of a murderous attack is also considered disruptive and therefore will be treated appropriately.

Sounds like something they'd have to say in a thread... with your posts in it. Agian, we only saw such content in your posts (and that guy with pirate avatar who was calling for a full on armed assault on US government, also because of imaginary "Nazis"), so...

[mongrel]

Sounds like something they'd have to say in a thread... with your posts in it. Agian, we only saw such content in your posts (and that guy with pirate avatar who was calling for a full on armed assault on US government, also because of imaginary "Nazis"), so...

The record shows I was quite brassed off that this person on the left, the only terrorist who attended the event and a literal fascist, not an imaginary one ( the camera doesn't lie) .



Now when are you going to step out of your imaginary world and admit that white supremacism presents a terrorist threat?

[Heathen Hammer]

All ideologies present a threat. Objectively speaking one of those ideologies is liberalism, and it presents a far bigger thread then all "extreme" ideologies put together. Iraqis, Serbs, Libyans, Syrians and other people that died or lost loved ones to liberal "exportation of democracy" could attest to that.

[mongrel]

All ideologies present a threat. Objectively speaking one of those ideologies is liberalism, and it presents a far bigger thread then all "extreme" ideologies put together. Iraqis, Serbs, Libyans, Syrians and other people that died or lost loved ones to liberal "exportation of democracy" could attest to that.

And these events all get an airing in the appropriate threads. Again, will you recogniose that indoctrinated Nazis kill people? Putin won't punish you if you agree.


ISIS's online presence was crippled once web hosts were persuaded that life was more valuable than money made from Islamist lolz.I fail to see why the same approach could not be used to degrade the identarian presence on the net.


https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanhatesthis/will-silicon-valley-treat-white-nationalism-as-terrorism

Nefarious slander. Are you proud of crap like this? I never said that people are born with unchangeable cultural traits, nor would i ever say that. Race doesn't have squat to do with that. For example, there's Mohamad Tawhidi, whom i can actually respect, and then there is Pierre Vogel who is a total douchebag.

Ironically you follow this with more racist crap

Certainly not when it comes to aspects of everyday life, like women's rights, homosexual's rights, children's rights, crime rates and antisocial punishment (like honor killings, stoning and mutilation). A European girl that was raped in 1900 wouldn't have to fear that she's gonna be punished for adultery on top of that or be forced to marry her rapist. Aside from warfare, Europe made much faster progress towards recognition of civil rights and human rights since 1700. Some Islamic countries have hardly made any progress at all since the 18th century. It's foolish to assume immigrants wouldn't bring their native acculturation - in other words their mindset - with them, especially if they are living together in large communities with little external influence.

Breakdown. In most of the Western world women were treated as chattel (in law) until late into the 20th century. In the UK married women could not even file a tax return until Margaret Thatcher ended that nonsense. They had to fight to have the vote, a relatively recent concession.THe EU only started to discuss banishing marital rape in 1986 and Denmark only managed to abolish it in 2013.

Im curious as to what recognition of civil rights and human rights since 1700 existed in respect of slaves and indentured labour? Tunisia didn't require a civil war to abolish slavery a quarter of a century before the Americans did. At lest they weren't hunted down as Jews and Roma were in living memory.

But the obvious point is that migrants who find themselves in the EU are subject to the laws of the host country and not those of the worst nations you can think of. Can you name one EU country where someone can now ignore women's rights, homosexual's rights and children's rights, or commit crime. Are there any EU states that commit capital punishment, let alone honor killings, stoning and mutilation? The answer is one big no. So how can the EU's Muslims do this? Racist bollocks is a fair description, not slander. And there remains a subset of European and American society who want a return of eugenicist theft and murder.

[Heathen Hammer]

ISIS presence has been crippled by Russian bombs and Syrian boots on the ground - much against the wishes of backers of the group from Gulf states and Western alphabet agencies like CIA. As far as Islamist content goes it is hard to say - since it is mainly immigrants from Muslim countries that tend to support this stuff, but presence of ISIS symbols on mainstream social media kinda proves that violent ideologies are fine and pretend "antifascism" of Big Tech has more to do with need for an excuse to suppress independent content, while "threat of extremism" is nothing but an empty and vapid excuse to suppress alt-tech. So no, the "Nazis" you think you are fighting mainly exist in your imagination and mass media propaganda that you consume. In reality you just help Silicon Valley crush its mainly apolitical grassroots independent competition. Which is ironically, actually fascistic, as per the definition of the term "fascist".

[Dekhatres]

Now when are you going to step out of your imaginary world and admit that white supremacism presents a terrorist threat?

white supremacism presents a terrorist threat

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

that deserves little attention

[Mithradates]

But the obvious point is that migrants who find themselves in the EU are subject to the laws of the host country and not those of the worst nations you can think of. Can you name one EU country where someone can now ignore women's rights, homosexual's rights and children's rights, or commit crime. Are there any EU states that commit capital punishment, let alone honor killings, stoning and mutilation? The answer is one big no. So how can the EU's Muslims do this?

Aha, so they cant do it because of the law, right...


They are doing these things by simply ignoring the law, just like how this German guy ignored the law when he tried to shoot up that synagogue.

EU states that commit capital punishment, let alone honor killings, stoning and mutilation?

Female genital mutilation is illegal in the UK yet in practice there was only one successful conviction for FGM in the past 40 years. There is a law against it, yet they keep ignoring it.

[mongrel]

Aha, so they cant do it because of the law, right...


They are doing these things by simply ignoring the law, just like how this German guy ignored the law when he tried to shoot up that synagogue.



Female genital mutilation is illegal in the UK yet in practice there was only one successful conviction for FGM in the past 40 years. There is a law against it, yet they keep ignoring it.

As we agree that a handful of overzealous White people who shoot people in the street and places of worship also break the law, does one propose to expel all White people from Europe,to prevent more happening? That's the usual rationale once a group is stereotyped to death.

white supremacism presents a terrorist threat that deserves little attention

Two points:

Not every nation has a dysfunctional gun policy

If your argument was a fair one, Islamist terrorism would deserve little attention, yet the US invaded two countries, both the wrong one. The
US imposes stringent controls on the movements of people from certain countries and expends considerable resource on countering Islamist terrorism.


I would like to think that in the real world, normal people would be concerned if loons of whatever origin were in the habit of shooting them when at prayer, shopping or at leisure.Why do people on teh internetz have difficulty with this?

And why are GI, and the dodgier Gab, 4chan and 8 chan sites so precious to some people that to mess with them in order to put and end to this murderous cult is akin to setting the Dead Sea Scrolls on fire?

[Mithradates]

As we agree that a handful of overzealous White people who shoot people in the street and places of worship also break the law, does one propose to expel all White people from Europe,to prevent more happening? That's the usual rationale once a group is stereotyped to death.

Expel all White people from Europe? Riiight...

[mishkin]

Expel all White people from Europe? Riiight...

Excellent that you have realized the ridicule of proposing to punish the entire group for the acts of a few belonging to that group. It was time. Kudos, mongrel.

[Mithradates]

No, not really. Expelling all white people from Europe is just as absurd idea as expelling all black people from Africa. The term used in general is to "send them back" those who dont belong, mainly because they dont want to belong.

punish the entire group for the acts of a few belonging to that group

Like punishing the Identitarian Movement for this attack?

[mishkin]

Europe is not "white". Europe does not belong to us. Forget that bs

Like punishing the Identitarian Movement for this attack?

Don't know mate, is there a shared ideology?

[Mithradates]

Oh, you think I expect them to become white, like, their skin should turn white? wtf

Don't know mate, is there a shared ideology?

I dont know, ask mongrel.

[mishkin]

Oh, you think I expect them to become white, like, their skin should turn white?

The only thing you can demand from a resident of a country (whatever their skin pigmentation or ethnicity) is complying with the law of that country. But that doesn't seem to be what the white identitarians ask for.

I dont know, ask mongrel.

From mongrels op: Germany synagogue shooting: Independent: Suspect 'broadcast attack livestream on Twitch' and ranted about Holocaust, Jews and immigration

(wiki) According to the manifesto, his goal had been to "Kill as many anti-Whites as possible, Jews preferred"

It sounds to me a person quite interested in preserving "white identity".

[mongrel]

Precisely. Moreover there is an audience not only content talking about expelling non-white people and of killing some to start the process, they would like to see actual murders happen in real time, as entertainment. Curious as to why some people don't see this as a problem.


Perhaps they are following white supremacist grandpappie's example, when murders were advertised in advance in US newspapers and their victims were dismembered before crowds of thousands.

[Mithradates]

The only thing you can demand from a resident of a country (whatever their skin pigmentation or ethnicity) is complying with the law of that country. But that doesn't seem to be what the white identitarians ask for.

*More than 100.000 female genital mutilation victims cry out in pain just in the UK alone.*

From mongrels op: Germany synagogue shooting: Independent: Suspect 'broadcast attack livestream on Twitch' and ranted about Holocaust, Jews and immigration

(wiki) According to the manifesto, his goal had been to "Kill as many anti-Whites as possible, Jews preferred"

It sounds to me a person quite interested in preserving "white identity".

So, should the Identitarian Movement be punished for this attack?

[mishkin]

*More than 100.000 female genital mutilation victims cry out in pain just in the UK alone.*

a crime for which those responsible are punished. as rapists, thieves, tax evaders or any other criminal activity are punished, no matter what their race or ethnicity. So what do you mean by pointing out that fact?

So, should the Identitarian Movement be punished for this attack?

When have I suggested something like that? Of course not, but they, like any other extremist group, must be monitored by security forces.

[The spartan]

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

[mongrel]

*More than 100.000 female genital mutilation victims cry out in pain just in the UK alone.*

Does this give identitarians the right to cut people's throats (and post the result for other people's enjoyment)?

So, should the Identitarian Movement be punished for this attack?

As Miskin said.

Potential Irish and Islamist and fascist terrorist activity is monitored routinely, some groups like Islam 4 UK , Continuity IRA and and National Action are proscribed, some of the worst activists are imprisoned. If people are being killed to promote GI , the organisation should be shut down, in my view. I'd go further though, unlimited fines for any host that recklessly promotes violent GI material or shares murder videos.