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    Quote Originally Posted by Exarch View Post
    It's evident by now that the white dominated ruling class of america is conducting a war of genocide against the african american demographic:

    Source: https://www.theroot.com/texas-police...-he-1839002398

    It's like the white leadership wants to put all the coloured folks into ovens like their role models in the 3rd reich, but don't have the balls to actually go ahead with it; instead, they'd much rather put racists in uniforms and get them to gun down the black people in their own homes.
    Updated apparently not in Fort Worth.

    https://www.npr.org/2019/10/14/77017...oman-in-her-ho

    Obviously a charge is not a conviction, but the cam footage is about as damning as it gets.

    It's like the white leadership wants to put all the coloured folks into ovens like their role models in the 3rd reich, but don't have the balls to actually go ahead with it; instead, they'd much rather put racists in uniforms and get them to gun down the black people in their own homes.
    You know Exarch I can take pot shots at my country. Big deal. But for such a China fan explain those tanks in Tienanmen square again?
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    You know Exarch I can take pot shots at my country. Big deal. But for such a China fan explain those tanks in Tienanmen square again?
    Exarch keeps repeating the same statements about the US, among other things calling it a white supremacist state engaged in genocide against black Americans that wants to start a race war with China. As if people who have actually been to the US or live here won't notice that isn't true. If I had to guess, this is all about him trying to convince himself that it's a horrible place full of horrible people and totally not something he feels envious of.
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    But it is a horrible place full of horrible people. You guys are just a bit upset, that's all. Relax.
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    Quote Originally Posted by conon394 View Post
    Updated apparently not in Fort Worth.

    https://www.npr.org/2019/10/14/77017...oman-in-her-ho

    Obviously a charge is not a conviction, but the cam footage is about as damning as it gets.



    You know Exarch I can take pot shots at my country. Big deal. But for such a China fan explain those tanks in Tienanmen square again?
    Quote Originally Posted by Coughdrop addict View Post
    Exarch keeps repeating the same statements about the US, among other things calling it a white supremacist state engaged in genocide against black Americans that wants to start a race war with China. As if people who have actually been to the US or live here won't notice that isn't true. If I had to guess, this is all about him trying to convince himself that it's a horrible place full of horrible people and totally not something he feels envious of.
    How else to describe a government that conducts war against a certain racial group within its own borders? You think Malcolm X and the Black Panthers had it bad in the 60s?

    The modern day Malcolm X's are faring no better:
    Mysterious Deaths Leave Ferguson Activists ‘On Pins and Needles’

    Six people in the Ferguson, Missouri, activist community have been found dead in the four years since Michael Brown was killed
    It’s been four and a half years since the death of 18-year-old Michael Brown, the unarmed young black man whose shooting by police officer Darren Wilson sparked protests and riots in Ferguson, Missouri, helping to solidify the Black Lives Matter movement. Though the unrest is over, his passing is still deeply felt in the community, particularly among activists who say they are receiving anonymous threats following reports of deaths in their community.
    Since the 2014 shooting, about six people connected to the protests following Brown’s death have died — some in violent, mysterious ways, the Associated Press reports. While police say there is no evidence that foul play was involved in the men’s deaths, those within the community report feeling as if they are “on pins and needles,” Rev. Darryl Grey said. The prominent African American leader added that he has received anonymous threats, and that he recently found an unmarked box containing a 6-foot python in his car.
    Source: https://www.rollingstone.com/culture...-brown-809407/

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    Default Re: A key witness in ex-cop Amber Guyger's murder trial was shot to death in Dallas

    Quote Originally Posted by Exarch View Post
    How else to describe a government that conducts war against a certain racial group within its own borders? You think Malcolm X and the Black Panthers had it bad in the 60s?

    The modern day Malcolm X's are faring no better:


    Source: https://www.rollingstone.com/culture...-brown-809407/
    Yes and when you net out the conspiracy theory you have...

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/darren...rched-in-a-car

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/a-murdered-witness/

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-di...-east-st-louis

    I have said over and over again I'm not denying the US is still struggling with the racism that was backed into its founding in order to justify the aberrant nature of black slavery (as is extreme from the norm of forced labor of some kind by pretty much everyone since we decided cites were a good thing).

    That said you seem rather unable to take a fair look at China while parading all US faults over and over again. I guess if that makes you happy we are stuck with it.

    But there is very likely no conspiracy in Ferguson. The is the reality of racism to some extent (more in the creation of the situation) but more important the the reality of a poor black communities typically being served by very underfunded agencies, police or otherwise. So you have a chicken and situation. Even if you total disbanded all the local cops and hired a whole brand new load of cops out of say the NTPD academy that was a racial match for the community. They would be A: still chronically underfunded. B: still operating a in nation awash with guns. And thus C would likely still not be following up on murders and soon as they got cold and still likely use force more often than you might think out fear and that would due to the demographics fall on black people disproportionately.

    Anyway Malcom X was killed by the nation of Islam. Was the FBI guilty of probably willfully not warning him of the information they had about , yes. That does not absolve the agency and actions of of the NI.
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    https://news.yahoo.com/martin-luther...145714868.html
    So FBI is now claiming that MLK was rapist.
    So was MLK really that bad or FBI believes that he is a threat even though he is dead after being assassinated in an obvious government op?
    Quote Originally Posted by Coughdrop addict View Post
    Exarch keeps repeating the same statements about the US, among other things calling it a white supremacist state engaged in genocide against black Americans that wants to start a race war with China. As if people who have actually been to the US or live here won't notice that isn't true. If I had to guess, this is all about him trying to convince himself that it's a horrible place full of horrible people and totally not something he feels envious of.
    It is pretty objective to point out that existing power structure in US is actually pretty bad for majority of population. Not saying that China is better, but then again, China is just what US would be if Democrats were unchecked and not effectively contained by GOP.
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    https://news.yahoo.com/martin-luther...145714868.html
    So FBI is now claiming that MLK was rapist.
    So was MLK really that bad or FBI believes that he is a threat even though he is dead after being assassinated in an obvious government op?
    Looks the documents were sealed and turned up by biographer David Garrow.

    So you are not I think denying the FBI was monitoring MLK, right. So than what are you saying the FBI sat on real evidence for decades and encouraged the guy to dig it up - why? Or that the FBI created a modern fake and than sealed in period conditions so it could be found.

    China is just what US would be if Democrats were unchecked and not effectively contained by GOP.
    Ha HA that's funny, tell me another joke.
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    Looks the documents were sealed and turned up by biographer David Garrow.

    So you are not I think denying the FBI was monitoring MLK, right. So than what are you saying the FBI sat on real evidence for decades and encouraged the guy to dig it up - why? Or that the FBI created a modern fake and than sealed in period conditions so it could be found.
    They believe that "black power" groups are a threat and went after character of one of their leaders.
    Ha HA that's funny, tell me another joke.
    California now does kinda resemble failed socialist state with super-wealthy elite and the rest of population as right-less peasants drowning in poverty and squalor.

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    California now does kinda resemble failed socialist state with super-wealthy elite and the rest of population as right-less peasants drowning in poverty and squalor.
    No it really does not. You been there lately? As soon as you come up with some fact sand stop toking Trump rhetoric I bother to reply again on this.
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    No it really does not. You been there lately? As soon as you come up with some fact sand stop toking Trump rhetoric I bother to reply again on this.
    The right obsessively hates California for two main reasons:

    1: Pure envy. Because they lack the emotional maturity to look at their own behaviors and connect them to why they are poor (IE voting for Republicans) they instead try to convince themselves California isn't really so far above them. In this they resemble medieval peasants who comfort themselves that their more successful neighbor is really a witch who's prosperity is the result of deals with the devil, when their own bits of rocky ground could thrive if they'd only put in a little effort and clear those rocks.

    2: Putin, in his quest to destroy the US, has recognized California as the engine driving the US economy. Therefor he has ordered his catspaws in the Republican Party and right-wing media to smear California in the hopes of driving away business. He knows that without California all of the US would resemble the unlivable hellscape of Russia.

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    No it really does not. You been there lately? As soon as you come up with some fact sand stop toking Trump rhetoric I bother to reply again on this.
    Outright denial, eh? I mean it is an objective fact, that unless you are part of tiny minority that lives in gated community which is guarded 24/7, then California is a pretty terrible place to be in. This is what happens when you let Democrats take full power - they simply are neither capable nor care of providing basic sanitation. That's right, Democrats, as government can't even do basic government stuff that governments from 2000 years ago could. Maybe you should just stick to your own advice and come up with a fact instead of blindly repeating mainstream media propaganda.
    Quote Originally Posted by Coughdrop addict View Post
    The right obsessively hates California for two main reasons:

    1: Pure envy. Because they lack the emotional maturity to look at their own behaviors and connect them to why they are poor (IE voting for Republicans) they instead try to convince themselves California isn't really so far above them. In this they resemble medieval peasants who comfort themselves that their more successful neighbor is really a witch who's prosperity is the result of deals with the devil, when their own bits of rocky ground could thrive if they'd only put in a little effort and clear those rocks.

    2: Putin, in his quest to destroy the US, has recognized California as the engine driving the US economy. Therefor he has ordered his catspaws in the Republican Party and right-wing media to smear California in the hopes of driving away business. He knows that without California all of the US would resemble the unlivable hellscape of Russia.
    1. Yep, every day I wake up and dream about living in a place full of homeless people and medieval diseases.
    2. I feel like Rusophobia replaced anti-semitism as main Democrat scapegoat mechanism. You guys need better arguments.
    Trump should just send in military in California, maybe they would be able to create some order.

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    [QUOTE]Outright denial, eh? I mean it is an objective fact, that unless you are part of tiny minority that lives in gated community which is guarded 24/7, then California is a pretty terrible place to be in. This is what happens when you let Democrats take full power - they simply are neither capable nor care of providing basic sanitation. That's right, Democrats, as government can't even do basic government stuff that governments from 2000 years ago could. Maybe you should just stick to your own advice and come up with a fact instead of blindly repeating mainstream media propaganda./QUOTE]

    OK I'll bite because I hate BS going un opposed.

    So no you don't live there, never visited and can only repeat Trump talking points.

    that unless you are part of tiny minority that lives in gated community which is guarded 24/7, then California is a pretty terrible place to be in
    Tell that to my uncle, A longtime family friend, my brother in laws wife's whole family, my cousin... None live in gated communities, none are guarded, all are happy and doing well in Cali and none are uber elite

    they simply are neither capable nor care of providing basic sanitation. That's right, Democrats, as government can't even do basic government stuff that governments from 2000 years ago could. Maybe you should just stick to your own advice and come up with a fact instead of blindly repeating mainstream media propaganda.
    Maybe you should too. Oh wait I know hey how about red state ID. No democratic government in sight. So what does the glorious republican mayor of Blackfoot do. Well we have nice winters for a two years. Let's downsize and eliminate all snow removal - dump the vehicles layoff the people. What happens next of course we get a 'bad winter' with heavy snow - turns out the city can't clear roads for weeks, and than pays outside contractors more than the entire city snow budget for last 2 years it had one. You know the cool thing the same mayor and his republican city counsel made his position full time and gave him a raise. Look up the size of the Blackfoot and compare Ann Arbor Michigan - you know the socialist republic of Ann Arbor (the one with really good public transit you know something that does not exist in SE Idaho). The mayor makes only a third of the republican @ss who runs Blackfoot but the roads to get cleared in the winter promptly.

    1. Yep, every day I wake up and dream about living in a place full of homeless people and medieval diseases.
    Let's see now. US freedom of movement between states. Where do suppose you would go if you were homeless North Dakota hang out by Whitish bay or California or Texas or Florida. Or really just end any state with very large cities.

    https://www.usich.gov/tools-for-action/map/#fn[]=1400&fn[]=2900&fn[]=6000&fn[]=9900&fn[]=13500

    So where does a fool and his dream go Cali, New York, Houston... or do they set out for Wyoming?

    Also lets look at rates shall we.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/06/us/ho...ers/index.html

    Not looking good for Texas already high and increasing.

    That's right, Democrats, as government can't even do basic government stuff that governments from 2000 years ago could
    Where. Dealing with run away property prices and also being a place you can overwinter. And thus ending up with a persistent homeless population seems to diffrent from sanitation.

    Besides if you want to governance its the republican who have allowed the real minimum wage to collapse. A real minimum wage at the level it was in say the 50s might mean you people could afford housing. A real national health care system might me lots of people could get treatment fro addiction and mental health issues. A place with a rational tax system might be able to afford housing vouchers... need I say those are Republican issues. People who starve the beast also starve infrastructure spending HH. And that is republicans.
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    So your argument is based on anecdotal claims (Im sorry, I'll take actual facts of medieval disease outbreaks and statistics over some guy on Internet forum basing his arguments on his relative's experiences) and whataboutism("b-b-but Republicans did a bad thing too once, reee").
    You are definitely not off on a good start. Maybe defending failing blue state isn't the best hill to die on, eh?
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    lol, Putin is to blame for people despising those who are unlike them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heathen Hammer View Post
    So your argument is based on anecdotal claims
    Go on, tough guy, show some stats on the failed State-ness of California. Things to check would be employment rates, crime rates, etc; not an article about a tent city or poop in San Francisco.
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    lol, Putin is to blame for people despising those who are unlike them.
    Not entirely. He is however capitalizing on the persecution complex and envy that defines the average Trump supporter to push his agenda of destroying the US from within.

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    I'll take actual facts of medieval disease outbreaks and statistics
    Well you have nice Goebbels level talking point just keep repeating it right than it must be true, lets see you stats than... link?

    I assume you mean something the rather lurid title of the recent Atlantic story

    A more nuanced view surprisingly can be found here

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckde.../#793bae4f610d

    for lurid see this one

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/medie...s-adin-blumofe

    "The Bubonic plague has been nearly non-existent in LA with only three cases of it in the past 40 years, but experts believe that there could already be plague victims present in the city."

    which experts and why is that surprise? Bubonic plague is a not unheard of across the entire west...

    https://www.cdc.gov/plague/images/USPlague70_17.jpg
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ases-year.html

    You notice in the Forbes article the collision of both decriminalization moves, prison reduction sizes and most importantly no good public health system or national health care. Those last two are squarely a result (and also the boom in prisons as well) of republican governance at the national and state level.

    You could also say look at other disease for example California does OK compared to many other states in the new rise of STDs

    https://www.cdc.gov/std/stats18/fignatpro.htm

    I will prop 47 looks like it poorly designed. Downgrading the offenses it covered too a citation and court date is fine but there should have a been a mechanism to detain for metal and drug addiction evaluation and money apportion for dealing with that. All in all building housing or shelters is obviously needed but it seems to data shows a large part of the homeless problem is chronic addiction and or metal health issues untreated. By in nobody in the US does much a good job dealing with it its just California is an attractive place to be.
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