Fireworks ensue as Fox morning show brings on constitutional expert. The video is about 8 minutes and worth watching:
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2019...ine-president/
My own view is that the idea of an anonymous official bringing down a constitutionally elected President is ludicrous. The Dems have ventured onto a dangerous path whose future implications will endanger the Republic.
Ask yourself: Should an anonymous person be allowed to charge the President with a crime?
The answer, if you're a sane person, is NO!
From Bill Clinton trying to force himself on every female around him other then his wife to Bush sr and junior's war crimes, American presidents have history of doing far worse things then Trump got accused of with 0 consequences. Anyone that thinks Trump will be impeached over this has to be a hard case of Trump Derangement Syndrome. I wouldn't even be surprised if Trump literally intended for this to happen when he called Zelensky, since the end result is Democrats politically decimating themselves even further.
No-one’s charged him with a crime. A whistleblower, albeit one who saw nothing, has credibly accused him and it has to be followed up.
I see the cultists are in full force with the whataboutism.
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Sure I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is Im not. I honestly feel that America is the best country and all other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism.
One thing is for certain: the more profoundly baffled you have been in your life, the more open your mind becomes to new ideas.
-Neil deGrasse Tyson
Let's think the unthinkable, let's do the undoable. Let us prepare to grapple with the ineffable itself, and see if we may not eff it after all.
Sure I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is Im not. I honestly feel that America is the best country and all other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism.
"I pray Heaven to bestow the best of blessings on this house and all that shall hereafter inhabit it. May none but honest and wise men ever rule under this roof."
- John Adams, on the White House, in a letter to Abigail Adams (2 November 1800)
Ok? Maybe you are missing the point, neither Clinton or Steele held office during the work on the Steele dossier. See how that might be a bit different than, say, the acting POTUS engaging with the executive of a foreign power?
You cared enough to bring it up as a means to call opponents hypocrites in an unrelated thread. Cough Cough.
Domestically? I am sure the POTUS can put pressure on his AG (he can fire him, after all) to go after opponents if he wants, but then the AG will have some hard decisions to make. Going to international leaders to coordinate against opponents? It is absolutely improper. I mean, think about it, the acting POTUS has huge amounts of leverage over all kinds of nations, and you are asking if it is ok for him to get foreign leaders involved in our partisan politics? That has disaster written all over it, not to mention some severe "party over country" . And you even had to throw in the vapid phrase "genuine basis for assuming that it had acted illegally" to qualify the insanity. In correspondence the POTUS has with a foreign leader, a "genuine basis" is whatever the goddamn POTUS says it is, he could cite a blog post for all he cares. You have been saying that it is ok if the POTUS even targets political opponents through international means as long as he can point to "a reason". That could even mean, say, calling a foreign leader and asking them to focus on a niece or nephew of the opponent that lives in the country as a means of punishing or dissuading the opponent. Maybe the niece or nephew had actually been shoplifting or had some drugs in their residence; it is fine if the POTUS calls up the president of that country as asks to make sure that person was prosecuted? It's too abusable, man.
You literally couldn't bring up Clinton in any way other than: "whatabout Clinton." There was no set up for you, she has nothing to do with the thread or event. Other than to be a tool to attack opponents with and support "your side".
So you acted in bad faith...to draw attention to others acting in bad faith?
Sure, buddy.
Uhuh, and who other than the POTUS decides what counts as a "basis" or not? You are kind of belying the abusability of such a power. You are saying it is up to the President's discretion whether there is "cause" to ask a foreign leader to have an opponent investigated, right?
Wait, so there is literally overt acknowledgment that the "liberal press*" (*organizations involved unspecified) and the Democratic Party (I guess you mean DNC?) and the Intelligence Community (not sure which agencies) coordinated a "choreographed assault" on Trump? Like, they just put out a memo saying they were doing this, or what?
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One thing is for certain: the more profoundly baffled you have been in your life, the more open your mind becomes to new ideas.
-Neil deGrasse Tyson
Let's think the unthinkable, let's do the undoable. Let us prepare to grapple with the ineffable itself, and see if we may not eff it after all.
Sure I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is Im not. I honestly feel that America is the best country and all other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism.
Wall Street Journal, Taking Out Joe Biden - WSJ
In fact,The problem for Joe Biden is that outright criminality is not necessary for these stories to stink. The appearance of conflict of interest is bad enough, and there is plenty of it.
1- Posted on May 13, 2014,
Biden's Son, Polish Ex-President Quietly Sign On To Ukrainian Gas
2-John Kerry's son cut business ties with Hunter Biden over Ukrainian oilRevelations that Hunter Biden and Aleksander Kwasniewski serve on the board of a company controlled by a Yanukovych ally raise serious conflict of interest questions for Western countries' Ukraine policy.
Hunter Biden could not be immediately reached for comment. An assistant at Rosemont Seneca Partners, the investment firm where he is partner, said he was out of the office. A woman who answered the phone at the London number listed for Burisma on its website appeared to have no idea who either Biden was. By late Tuesday, however, Burisma had reacted quickly enough to remove a link to a New York Times story from April, when Biden visited Kiev and urged it to reduce its dependence on Russian gas, from a prominent position on the homepage.
Kendra Barkoff, a spokesperson for Joe Biden, denied to comment on the vice president's son's appointment.
It proved difficult to discern at first whether the Burisma website carrying the press release was even real. Its photos of Hunter Biden and Rosemont co-founder Devon Archer, who is listed as a member of the Burisma board, are lifted from Rosemont's website.
The company site carries a bizarre interview with Archer — apparently first published in the Ukrainian newspaper Kapital, then translated badly into English with Slavic syntax left intact — in which he tacitly acknowledges his connections to the Biden family and says Burisma "reminds [him] of Exxon in its early days." The Burisma site was registered anonymously through the domain service GoDaddy in 2010, according to the who.is service.
Company registration documents for Burisma show, however, that both Hunter Biden and Archer joined its board of directors in April. Burisma is completely owned by another Cypriot offshore company, Brociti Investments Limited, which, records show, belongs to Mykola Zlochevsky, who was energy minister and deputy national security council chair under Yanukovych, deposed in February.
Hours after Biden’s board appointment went public on May 13, 2014, Heinz emailed Matt Summers and David Wade, two of his stepfather’s top aides at the State Department.
Heinz was troubled by his partners’ decision to join the Burisma board and immediately took steps to end his business relationship with Biden and Archer,
“Apparently Devon and Hunter both joined the board of Burisma and a press release went out today,” wrote Heinz. “I cant speak why they decided to, but there was no investment by our firm in their company.”
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Every human society must justify its inequalities: reasons must be found because, without them, the whole political and social edifice is in danger of collapsing”.
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Apparently smart enough for you to not have an answer. All Trump had to do was ask for a favor from a foreign agent regarding his political opponent. Not somebody potentially committing a criminal or corrupt act. But a political opponent. And he did not let his own government ferret this out and press charges if Biden really did commit corrupt acts. He asked a foreign agent to drum up information on a political opponent who does not currently work for the US Government in an effort to make that political opponent's campaign messier.
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One thing is for certain: the more profoundly baffled you have been in your life, the more open your mind becomes to new ideas.
-Neil deGrasse Tyson
Let's think the unthinkable, let's do the undoable. Let us prepare to grapple with the ineffable itself, and see if we may not eff it after all.
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