Bonus when army reaches a specific location

**leo.civil.uefs** · August 25, 2019, 10:34 PM

Ok, so now I see some light in the end of the tunnel, thanks guys.

My plans changed.
I will no more use forts, since I cant spawn armies inside them via script. I actually dont need forts since my ruins have no walls, gates or arrow towers.
So I think I will use custom tiles instead, spawn the army of the new faction over it, make it "locked", and change the ancillaries file so anciallies will only be give when a general wins a battle against that new faction.

Two things come to mind. Will the AI eventually attack these armies? Would they do if they were inside forts instead of the custom tile?
Is there a way how to avoid these armies from fleeing from battle field and consequently moving away in the strat map after the battle? (maybe "cant_withdraw" in EDU for the units)

**nadalio** · August 26, 2019, 03:14 AM

Amazing Features!!!
I have this ideas...i hope could be useful..
When an army reach a place..

Rewards:

Ancillaries (Reliquaries of the first age, magic ring's ecc) and traits that trigger if the general enters the place or defeat the enemy of the place.

-Money

-knowledge to build special buildings or weapons and armors upgrade

-special units / heroes (A powerful general with high traits)

-Allies: Ex. Mordor conquer and hold a ruin where lives a dragon. The faction could ask alliance with it and have it as a unit.

-Resources

Dangers:

-Death: An assassin agent (custom Strat model of a wraith/lich) limited to the settlement that will try to kill the captain or the general.
This will make things more interesting, because you will have to visit the place with powerful characters to resist the attempt of assassination (Special traits and ancillaries). More you remain near the cursed place, more the wraith (assassin) will try to kill the charaters.
Example:
Barrow downs, you can go there and try to find treasures etc..
with a hobbit general. It could be killed by the wraith.

N.B
Could be a version where a unit attack the general.
Example:
Stone troll lair custom tile, a general unit goes there, if they beat the stone trolls they coluld find old swords and chain mails Ancillaries. Like the hobbit

-Bribe: A diplomat will bribe the general/captain that will pass to the "dark side". It could be for different reasons:
A)The find a treasure, so they could rebel if they haven't enough loyality.

B)A spell from a witch that "zombificate" the unit.

C)werewolf curse from the attack by a werewolf unit: if the player/AI loose, the survived units will become formed by werewolves. (Spawn a new werewolf unit maybe?)

These reasons will make the game play more interesting because every time that AI or player visit the unit it will make the place more dangerous.

Let me know if i could give you my help in some way

**leo.civil.uefs** · August 26, 2019, 06:43 PM

nevermind

**leo.civil.uefs** · August 27, 2019, 04:16 PM

As far as I know, enemy armies over roads or ports will block them, preventing trade with neighboor regions and thus reducing profit.

Is it possible to somehow have the same effect over resources itself?
I mean, when an army is over the resource, it gets blocked and excluded from the trade until the army is removed.

Maybe using the merchant mechanics...

Any ideas?

**leo.civil.uefs** · September 05, 2019, 07:05 PM

As you know what I want is:

If the player/or the AI wins a battle against an specific army, the ancillaries will be given to the victorious general.
Now, that could be made using conditions that simply says "wins against specific faction" (I would implement a new faction in the game), but if not possible, it could be something related to units (I could simply create new units to be used specifically on this), so the conditions would be something like "destroys specified unit".

So I've made some research in the docudemons file looking for a condition to be used in the descr_export_ancillaries.txt file and found the following.

Code:

Identifier:    I_BattnemyArmyNumberOfUnitsSample use:    I_BattnemyArmyNumberOfUnits > 5
Description:    Test size of army
Battle or Strat:    Battle
Class:    BATTLE_ENEMY_ARMY_NUMBER_UNITS


Identifier:    NumKilledGenerals
Trigger requirements:    character_record
Parameters:    logic token, test value
Sample use:    NumKilledGenerals > 3
Description:    Test to see how many generals were killed
Battle or Strat:    Either
Class:    GENERALS_ARMY_KILLED_GENERALS_TEST


Identifier:    PercentageEnemyKilled
Trigger requirements:    character_record
Parameters:    logic token, test value
Sample use:    PercentageEnemyKilled > 35.8
Description:    Test to see what percentage of the enemy was killed in the prior battle
Battle or Strat:    Either
Class:    PERCENTAGE_OF_ENEMY_KILLED_TEST


Identifier:    I_PercentageOfArmyKilled
Trigger requirements:    
Parameters:    alliance_index army_index logic_token percentage
Sample use:    I_PercentageOfArmyKilled 1 0 < 50
Description:    Tests the percentage of casualties taken by the specified army during this battle
Battle or Strat:    Battle
Class:    BATTLE_PERCENTAGE_OF_ARMY_KILLED


Identifier:    I_WonBattle
Trigger requirements:    
Parameters:    None
Sample use:    I_WonBattle romans_julii
Description:    Did the faction win the battle just fought?
Battle or Strat:    Either
Class:    I_WON_BATTLE




Identifier:    I_PercentageUnitGroupKilled
Trigger requirements:    
Parameters:    group_label logic_token percentage
Sample use:    I_PercentageUnitGroupKilled roman_archers < 50
Description:    Tests the percentage of men lost from the unit group
Battle or Strat:    Battle
Class:    PERCENTAGE_UNIT_GROUP_KILLED


Identifier:    I_IsUnitGroupDestroyed
Trigger requirements:    
Parameters:    group_label
Sample use:    I_IsUnitGroupDestroyed group1
Description:    Is the unit group destroyed (killed or routed)
Battle or Strat:    Battle
Class:    IS_UNIT_GROUP_DESTROYED


Identifier:    I_UnitDestroyed
Trigger requirements:    
Parameters:    unit_label
Sample use:    I_UnitDestroyed roman_archers
Description:    Has the specified unit been wiped out?
Battle or Strat:    Battle
Class:    UNIT_DESTROYED


Identifier:    I_PercentageUnitKilled
Trigger requirements:    
Parameters:    unit_label logic_token percentage
Sample use:    I_PercentageUnitKilled roman_archers > 50
Description:    Tests the percentage of men lost from the specified unit
Battle or Strat:    Battle
Class:    PERCENTAGE_UNIT_KILLED


Identifier:    GeneralFoughtFaction
Trigger requirements:    character_record
Parameters:    faction type
Sample use:    GeneralFoughtFaction romans_julii
Description:    Test to see whether the opponent was of a particular faction in the prior battle
Battle or Strat:    Either
Class:    FOUGHT_FACTION

Any hint from the code masters? I'm in the darkness here, guys.

**MIKE GOLF** · September 05, 2019, 09:53 PM

I will check the eb ii triggers to see if something comes up as well a few other mods. Honestly though I am not sure it can be done without knowing who the victorious general is. It may take a few days due to the hurricane that just passed by, there is a lot of yard cleanup to do. It may be easier to tie the ancillary down to a location then a person.

**Gebilde** · September 06, 2019, 04:01 AM

In EBII if you defeatet pikemanunits,
some factions can recrute these units,
thanks to an custom attributes.

**leo.civil.uefs** · September 07, 2019, 02:14 AM

OK, I always get amazed when something is so simple to do.

It seems to work perfectly. I did this as a test.
Everytime any general fights and win a battle against milan, the ancillary is given to him. Exactly what I wanted.
Now I just need to use a non playbale faction in place of milan.
I think I will use the PAPAL_ESTATES from TATW since they are not playable by player or AI, I guess.

Any warnings?

Code:

Trigger emeralds_girion
    WhenToTest PostBattle
    Condition IsGeneral
    and WonBattle
	and GeneralFoughtFaction milan


    AcquireAncillary emeralds_girion chance  100

**leo.civil.uefs** · September 30, 2019, 09:59 PM

This is something different.
Im now trying to create a TRAIT.

Here's what I have:

The Trait in export_descr_character_traits.txt

Code:

Trait Blessed_in_men_temple
    Characters family
    ExcludeCultures greek, southern_european, eastern_european, middle_eastern
    Hidden
        AntiTraits Drink, Arse, BadDisciplinarian, Coward, Slothful, Xenophilia, PublicAtheism, Aesthetic, Ignorance, Gambling, Liar, Embezzler, Corrupt, Disloyal, Unjust, Perverted, Talkative, Superstitious, ExpensiveTastes, Insane, Lewd, ExoticTastes, Corrupted, WaveringFaith, Doomsayer, WaningConviction, Cursed, ReligiousInactivity


    Level Blessed_in_men
        Description Blessed_in_men_desc
        EffectsDescription Blessed_in_men_effects_desc
    GainMessage Blessed_in_men_gain_desc
        Threshold  1

The Trigger in export_descr_character_traits.txt

Code:

Trigger Blessed_in_men_temple


    WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
    
    Condition IsGeneral
    and EndedInSettlement 
    and SettlementName Ithilien_Temple
    and CharacterIsLocal


    Affects Blessed_in_men_temple  1  Chance  100

Code:

The entry in export_VnVs.txt

{Blessed_in_men}    Blessed


{Blessed_in_men_desc}
This general was blessed in a temple of his ancestors and got rid of vices


{Blessed_in_men_gain_desc}
This general was blessed in a temple of his ancestors and got rid of vices


{Blessed_in_men_effects_desc}
Clean of vices

To test, I conquer the settlement with a general but when I press the end turn button the game crashes.

**Lusitanio** · October 01, 2019, 08:21 AM

Well, first you should use always Capital letters in the trait, so instead of Blessed_in_men it should be Blessed_In_Men
Second, don't use Antitraits, in fact, remove that line entirely, Antitraits are broken in M2TW. You should use the triggers to avoid giving that trait to Generals with traits that you don't want or create more triggers to remove the bad traits when a General has the blessed trait.
Thirdly, you have the trait set as Hidden but then you added a description, so I guess the trait is meant to appear right? So delete the Hidden line too.

The rest should work but you will need to add more triggers to remove the bad traits if a General has the Blessed one.

**leo.civil.uefs** · October 02, 2019, 02:34 PM

Thanks for the simple but very useful answer!

Originally Posted by Lusitanio

The rest should work but you will need to add more triggers to remove the bad traits if a General has the Blessed one.

Would you show me a sample of how to do this?

**Lusitanio** · October 02, 2019, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by leo.civil.uefs

Thanks for the simple but very useful answer!

Would you show me a sample of how to do this?

See this example, I renamed your trait to Temple_Blessed because it is easier and it's never good to have long trait names. The FM gets the Blessed trait at turn end and at turn start there is a series of triggers that remove his bad traits, you have to put the exact level and the threshold. Hope this example helps, you can already put it since I used the TATW edct.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

Code:

Trigger Blessed1
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
    
    Condition IsGeneral
          and EndedInSettlement 
          and SettlementName Ithilien_Temple
          and CharacterIsLocal




    Affects Temple_Blessed  1  Chance  100
;------------------------------------------
Trigger Blessed2
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnStart


    Condition CharacterIsLocal
          and Trait Temple_Blessed > 0
          and Trait Drink = 4




  Affects Drink  -6 Chance 100


;------------------------------------------
Trigger Blessed3
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnStart


    Condition CharacterIsLocal
          and Trait Temple_Blessed > 0
          and Trait Drink = 5




  Affects Drink  -12 Chance 100


;------------------------------------------
Trigger Blessed4
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnStart


    Condition CharacterIsLocal
          and Trait Temple_Blessed > 0
          and Trait Drink = 6




  Affects Drink  -30 Chance 100


;------------------------------------------
Trigger Blessed5
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnStart


    Condition CharacterIsLocal
          and Trait Temple_Blessed > 0
          and Trait Arse = 1




  Affects Arse  -1 Chance 100


;------------------------------------------
Trigger Blessed6
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnStart


    Condition CharacterIsLocal
          and Trait Temple_Blessed > 0
          and Trait Arse = 2




  Affects Arse  -4 Chance 100


;------------------------------------------
Trigger Blessed7
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnStart


    Condition CharacterIsLocal
          and Trait Temple_Blessed > 0
          and Trait Arse = 3




  Affects Arse  -8 Chance 100


;------------------------------------------
Trigger Blessed8
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnStart


    Condition CharacterIsLocal
          and Trait Temple_Blessed > 0
          and Trait Arse = 4




  Affects Arse  -16 Chance 100


;------------------------------------------
Trigger Blessed9
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnStart


    Condition CharacterIsLocal
          and Trait Temple_Blessed > 0
          and Trait BadDisciplinarian = 1




  Affects Drink  -2 Chance 100


;------------------------------------------
Trigger Blessed10
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnStart


    Condition CharacterIsLocal
          and Trait Temple_Blessed > 0
          and Trait BadDisciplinarian = 2




  Affects Drink  -4 Chance 100


;------------------------------------------
Trigger Blessed11
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnStart


    Condition CharacterIsLocal
          and Trait Temple_Blessed > 0
          and Trait BadDisciplinarian = 3




  Affects Drink  -8 Chance 100


;------------------------------------------

**leo.civil.uefs** · November 05, 2019, 02:01 AM

Originally Posted by nadalio

Amazing Features!!!
I have this ideas...i hope could be useful...

Sorry man, only now I saw your comment, my bad.

Thanks for the ideas.
After studying the possibilities I've implemented the new system as possible in the game, with everything I could include.