Well congratulations. A non-immigrant telling an immigrant he doesn't know how immigration works.
I did leave my country out of my own volition. My parents left their countries (yes, plural) of their own volition as well. As did many in my family, which is spread out over several continents and half a dozen of countries. So yeah. Apparently we don't exist.
Then you talk about civil wars. Well congratulations again: I already talked about that. It's close to impossible to deport people to countries such as Libya or Syria. Nor am I advocating for it.
So that goes exactly nowhere.
Then you mention unemployment and faltering economies. You think countries allow anyone in? That they act out of humanitarian concern? Nope. The government does everything in its power to not let the low class, almost illiterate dude stay. Oh, you have a masters in engineering? Well come right in, because you're going to make us some money!
So I'm happy for you that you like it in Greece with your new neighbours. Ever think about why your economy sucks while up in the north we're doing so well? Well while you get to hang out in your "once middle class neighbourhood turned immigrant dumping ground", I get to hang out with Greek masters of engineering. That's called brain drain. But this thread isn't about immigration, per se, which again, I'm not against. A big part of my social circle is nonnative as well. I do have a problem with the sugar coating and the imbalance that ruins their country of origin, but that's besides the point. This thread isn't about immigration per se, it's about deportation.
Most of your argument then builds on the presumption US (natives) vs THEM (immigrants). You don't see the problem with that? Doesn't that seem a bit right-wing to you, if you think about it?
You think "Greektown/Chinatown/Koreatown" is one big happy happy family with a united front? You think the criminals living there get up at 7AM, travel to a different neighborhood and "work" there?
No, the overwhelming majority of victims have criminals of the same demographic.
You think the average immigrants works hard to pay taxes so some lowlife can go to jail and afterwards go right back to make his life worse?
You think he's happy about the gangs threatening his kids, not the kids of some upper class white family, no,
his kids worse? Or just as bad, them influencing his kid a bad way and send them on a downwards spiral that has them end up in jail as well? The hell they do.
Again: Some cousins of mine live in a Malmö ghetto. I didn't believe the no-go-zone myth (and it's still not as bad as redneck Americans claim) until
THEY told me.
Some gang wants to assert dominance in a sector? They'll shoot the biggest dude they can find there. Doesn't matter if he's part of a gang or not. But he is not going to be native, because that's not where this happens. It happens right where they live. And they drag their communities down with them.
The moment my cousins are done with school, they'll be out of that ghetto as well. They are not going to come back. They, as luck has it, also plan to emigrate. VOLUNTARILY.
They don't plan on committing crimes and they sure as hell also don't want to be thrown in one box with thugs.
So stop pretending like immigrants are some sort of Illuminati doing a big conspiracy that stick together no matter what. They/we are not. No one wants the thugs more gone than their communities.
And there definitely are some problematic deportation practices. The deportation of immigrant criminals isn't on that list. Or if it is, it's going to be very far down. At least for me.
I reserve my condemnation for such cases as when a school class suddenly finds out it lacks a girl because she, alongside her entire family and after living there for years, got raided by the police at 5AM and deported without even a chance to say goodbye.
And yes, that does happen.