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    Default Re: What ethnic group is this supposed to be?

    A superficial research indicates that this is a depiction of Kul Tigin, a general of the Second Turkic Khaganate.
    That would make them Turko-Mongolian.

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    That painting obviously depicts Kyrgyz or Kazakh attire though, likely Kyrgyz.

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    I say west turkic, khazar or else. Mongols dont dress like that.

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    I'm pretty sure the depiction is anachronistic and that Tureuki's assessment is correct.
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    ...is that his helmet or does our hero have a severed head tucked under his arm?

    Anyway i'd say his ethnicity is computergame Eastern.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sumskilz View Post
    I'm pretty sure the depiction is anachronistic and that Tureuki's assessment is correct.
    I see one in the right is carrying a serpent's head on a pole, that should be scythian in origin as well as the pointed top helmets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    ...is that his helmet or does our hero have a severed head tucked under his arm?
    Looks like a mask helmet to me. (EDIT: Although he's carrying it weird)

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    Anyway i'd say his ethnicity is computergame Eastern.
    Yeah this, or specific enough to be computer game steppe nomads.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bantu Chieftain View Post
    I see one in the right is carrying a serpent's head on a pole, that should be scythian in origin as well as the pointed top helmets.
    It looks like there are elements from different time periods and distantly related cultures. The helmets look to me like they wouldn't be out of place in Ming Dynasty China, except for the mask helmet, and then there is clothing that looks based on more recent traditional clothing from Central Asia. The artist was supposedly trying to depict Kul Tigin. I wouldn't take this image as a reasonably accurate depiction of anything.
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    Asiatic features, well most definitely one of the Turkic Khaganates...
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    The graves of toharians shows that technologies used by latest populations were tocarian.
    Edit- that besides indo-iranians, who were mentioned above ,as scythians .
    Kazakn and Uzbek hordes were parts of Mongol horde not Turkic. Yes they speak Turkic but their ethnicity is mixed .
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    Default Re: What ethnic group is this supposed to be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bantu Chieftain View Post
    I see one in the right is carrying a serpent's head on a pole, that should be scythian in origin as well as the pointed top helmets.
    Yet the armor style is several hundred years later (small plates at chest) and facial characters are east asian, not indo-europeans. And sword is of later design too.

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    I suspect nomadic groups had rather fluid ethnicity and race. A groups that was originally one ethnic group and language may have changed rather rapidly to another one as the group absorbed other groupss. For example, 16th century paintings of Mughula often showed them with Mongolian features, yet by the time 19th century, when you look at the rulers descended from the Mughula, they mostly packed those features and were.more likely to speak Persian than Turkish or Mongolian language.

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