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    No, not the provincial titles. The white icon on the unit card, that indicates who the active governor in a settlement is. If you have two generals, piety decides who the governor is. So better remove the other ones, if there are any.

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    all of this is in place?


  3. #143

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Westen View Post
    No, not the provincial titles. The white icon on the unit card, that indicates who the active governor in a settlement is. If you have two generals, piety decides who the governor is. So better remove the other ones, if there are any.
    is this default selection to piety based on anything? does piety provide better public order and happiness? if not, its a dumb mechanic. i have never seen it serve any use except maybe defend against inquisitors, but good players will carefully manage their papal relations. it did affect me badly in SSHIP though... for almost 2 decades, my full command, dread, and authority king was getting older and could not be crowned, because he had 5 piety instead of 6... just because he didn't believe in the church's lies, he couldn't get a crown

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sllhouette View Post
    is this default selection to piety based on anything? does piety provide better public order and happiness? if not, its a dumb mechanic. i have never seen it serve any use except maybe defend against inquisitors, but good players will carefully manage their papal relations. it did affect me badly in SSHIP though... for almost 2 decades, my full command, dread, and authority king was getting older and could not be crowned, because he had 5 piety instead of 6... just because he didn't believe in the church's lies, he couldn't get a crown
    Piety does affect some aspects of the game, like conversion rate of a province (even if much less than before), perhaps other parameters, I don't remember. It is a condition for getting many traits and ancillaries. It does matter.
    Send your general to a library to search for a book for your king-to-be to increase his devotion ;-)


  5. #145

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jurand of Cracow View Post
    all of this is in place?

    I think ancillary is number of retinues?

    All is in place however I am unsure if its in Eszgergom or Sefvefkv... where he should be crowned!
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    ancillary = retinue
    iirc, already in August version, it's Szekesfehervar

    ;------------------------------------------- 1->0 ------ HUNGARY ------ Trigger Crown_hungary_UnFit
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd


    Condition Trait Fit_Crown_hungary > 0


    Affects Fit_Crown_hungary -1 Chance 100

    ;------------------------------------------- 0->1
    Trigger Crown_hungary_Fit_Cathedral
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnEndInSettlement

    Condition FactionIsLocal
    and FactionType hungary
    and IsFactionLeader
    and SettlementName Szekesfehervar ; coronation in Szekesfehervar
    and SettlementBuildingExists >= cathedral ; large city level
    and not IsUnderSiege
    and GovernorLoyaltyLevel > loyalty_disillusioned
    and Treasury > 20000
    and Trait Crownholder > 1
    and Trait Crownholder < 4
    and Trait Fit_Crown_hungary < 1

    Affects Fit_Crown_hungary 1 Chance 100


    ;------------------------------------------- 0->1
    Trigger Crown_hungary_Fit_Visegrad
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnEndInSettlement

    Condition FactionIsLocal
    and FactionType hungary
    and IsFactionLeader
    and SettlementName Szekesfehervar ; coronation in Szekesfehervar (Visegrad)
    and SettlementBuildingExists >= var9_visegrad ; city level
    and not IsUnderSiege
    and GovernorLoyaltyLevel > loyalty_disillusioned
    and Treasury > 20000
    and Trait Crownholder > 1
    and Trait Crownholder < 4
    and Trait Fit_Crown_hungary < 1

    Affects Fit_Crown_hungary 1 Chance 100

  7. #147

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jurand of Cracow View Post
    ancillary = retinue
    iirc, already in August version, it's Szekesfehervar
    I still dont get crowned I added link to imgur, see below




    Hmm, embedding from imgur seems not to work! Do you guys have discord? for the ease of communication? This forum is so slow

    savefile: https://shorturl.at/lEK48

    https://imgur.com/ITMerJx
    Last edited by Timotheus; December 02, 2023 at 12:54 PM.
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  8. #148

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timotheus View Post
    I still dont get crowned I added link to imgur, see below




    Hmm, embedding from imgur seems not to work! Do you guys have discord? for the ease of communication? This forum is so slow

    savefile: https://shorturl.at/lEK48

    https://imgur.com/ITMerJx
    It's impossible to have a cathedral there by turn 96. You need to upgrade first to a Huge City, then build the Stonemasons(?), then the Cathedral.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaku View Post
    It's impossible to have a cathedral there by turn 96. You need to upgrade first to a Huge City, then build the Stonemasons(?), then the Cathedral.
    nope, Cathedral can be built in Large City,
    and the alternative building required for coronation - Visehrad - even in City.

  10. #150

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jurand of Cracow View Post
    nope, Cathedral can be built in Large City,
    and the alternative building required for coronation - Visehrad - even in City.
    Yeah, whatever 30,000 is called. You aren't getting that by turn 96.
    And the game indicates it must be built in Esztergom.
    If so I've been focusing on building up the 'wrong' city this entire time.

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    Yep, sorry, I haven't thought about changing the pic. Will try to fix it. Another pic to fix is for the Zenghid.

  12. #152

    Default Re: SSHIP - General Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaku View Post
    2) The ability to train Hospitallers is suddenly and inexplicably removed, then re-added, then removed again, then re-added. So if you're relying on Hospitallers as heavy units, and all of a sudden you aren't able to either train OR reinforce them, it completely wrecks your frontline strategy.
    I know this is a thread for Hungary, but after a few gameplays with a Polish faction I can confirm this behavior for Hospitaller and other knight orders. Unfortunatelly there seem to be no rule behind it.

  13. #153

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    For support of KCC work and for improve hungarian units roster I would like to provide some information and images about the Magyar units, currently in the game the 2 Magyar units (Magyar nobles and Magyar cavalry) have repeated models or old vanilla models, if Kostic can rework them I think the Hungarian unit roster would almost be ready for the 12th and 13th centuries, perhaps in the future adding some unique unit of the black army or corvino army, here is the information:


    PICTURES FOR MAGYAR CAVALRY (S.XI-XII)

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    PICTURES FOR MAGYAR NOBLES ( S.XII- XIV)


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    AND HERE INFORMATION ABOUT MAGYAR ARMY AND THEIR TACTICS (INCLUDING THE HUNGARIAN ARMY OF S.XII-XIII)

    https://arrecaballo.es/edad-media/lo...ar-de-hungria/

    Let's hope that our friend Kostic can include them in his work soon
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