HUNGARY

[kostic]

Thank you for all this great documentation. Maybe the creators of Magyar mod will agree to share their units?

[Brezkimra]

Heavy Cavalry / Knights -XV.th century:
The main armour type was the German gothic, but rare the Italian styled gothic armour appear to. The secondary weapons was the straight sword, heavy gothic sabre or mace. The shield usage was rare, but few person wear small hand pavise. The wealthier ones has used some horse armour.

[Brezkimra]

Thank you for all this great documentation. Maybe the creators of Magyar mod will agree to share their units?

Willingly!
The creators of Magyar mod never released their cavalry models. Just they shared some pictures about them almost nine years ago. Since then, the two-person modder team has not worked together. I downloaded the public pictures from an old Hungarian language forum, which no longer works. The Magyar Mod cavalry models based on historical sources, so they are very historical looking. In my opinion the pictures are usable as source pictures for modelling.

[Brezkimra]

Heavy Cavalry / Knights ~1500 ~1530.:
The german style gothic armour still popular. But used some of maximiliam type armour too. These cavalry units are not as armored as Western European heavy cavalry. The full horse armour are rare.


Mounted standard- bearers in 1526.:


King's bodyguard after ~1500:

[Brezkimra]

Székely Horse Archers -in the XV.th century:
Transylvanian light horse archers. They will be the archer specialists of Hungarian Kingdom.


Székely Lancers -after ~1470.:
Transylvanian light lancer cavalry.

[Brezkimra]

Peasant Horse Archers (Militia Portalis) - XV.th century:
Bad quality light cavalry, a new unit raised historically by king Sigismund. Not wore armour. Their secondary weapons the straight one-handed sword.


Mounted Crossbowmen:
First known appearance in 1238., in the late era they representing the czech light cavalry used constantly by the hungarian kings and governors.


Light Lancers (like mounted sergeants):
Medium cavalry. Some of them should wear sallet helmet, and sallet with bevor to (I read that in King Mathias order). The croatians are much number in this unit type.

[j.a.luna]

Woow good images and information about hungarians! And about infantry and "on foot soldiers", do you have also information? Is it true that hungarians used a "line infantry" with spears and pavise shields?

[Brezkimra]

Hussars ~1430~1530:
Light lancer cavalry. Fast horse, good stamina, hide in forest, good morale. Not much staying power after the charge. The armour is rare, but someones wear chain-mail and conical helmet with iron nose guard stick. In early times serbians and hungarians fighting together in this unit. In the later times mainly hungarians figting in this unit.

[Brezkimra]

Hussars ~1430~1530:
Light lancer cavalry.

[Brezkimra]

Hussars 1540-1560.:
Medium lancer cavalry. After 1526. the hussars wore more armour, and they are become medium cavalry. They are replaced the heavy cavalry. In this period the hussars ethnically only was hungarians.

[Brezkimra]

Famous generals in XV.th century:


Kings in armour - XIV-XVI.th century:

[kostic]

I don't want to disappoint, but I don't think I'll ever go so far as to remake the 15th / 16th century units.
Two reasons:
- I already have too much work for the 12th and 13th century
- I have never managed to play beyond 1300 yet


But of course, others than me might have the courage to tackle it.

[Brezkimra]

Woow good images and information about hungarians! And about infantry and "on foot soldiers", do you have also information? Is it true that hungarians used a "line infantry" with spears and pavise shields?

The medieval Hungarian warfare was based on cavalry. The Infantry was not so significant, and I haven't a lot of information about them. You can read some information about infantry units in the Magyar Mods's unit cards detailed description.
In my opinion they are not typical "line infantry".-If I understand your question exactly.
In the army of King Mathias the infantry units fought in a complex defensive round formation. The "pavise spearmen" (with spear, halberd, awl pike) made a shieldwall in the outer ring. Behind them was the second line of heavy armored infantry. Behind them was the gunner and crossbow shooters. And behind them, in the middle of the formation was the light infantry, which attack if the enemy is withdraw. And they can going back to the formation if they felt danger.This formation will can blocking the attack of enemy cavalry or infantry until the heavy cavalry is preparing for an attack again- and again behind them.
Sorry, I can't explain difficult things with my bad english.
If you are interested in medieval Hungarian military history, I recommend an english language book. You can download it in this page: https://vk.com/wall-52136985_24372

[Stivanderen]

I really love the black armor that the royal banderium uses and I thought it would be cool if more of the late hungarian units used black plate armor. Just a small visual change i feel would make the hungarians much more distinguished in the very late game.

[Brezkimra]

Can I get screenshot(s) about the full Carpathian Basin from upcoming SSHIP098 campaign map?

I looked a partial picture ( in this topic: https://www.twcenter.net/forums/show...CHANGES-by-JoC ), and I found some mistakes.
I can help to You with informations for a more historical Hungarian Kingdom campaign map.

[Jurand of Cracow]

The map is as it was before.
Unfortunately, we don't have a mapper at this moment and we don't do thorough changes - other than changing the borders of the provinces, or placement of the resources or settlements.

[Brezkimra]

The map is as it was before.
Unfortunately, we don't have a mapper at this moment and we don't do thorough changes - other than changing the borders of the provinces, or placement of the resources or settlements.

I would mark it the true location of settlements, settlement names and maybe the provinces borders.

[Jurand of Cracow]

@szkelkun: do you happen to know if the Medieval spelling was Piroska or Piriska? And if the name Borbala was used at that time?

[Brezkimra]

@szkelkun: do you happen to know if the Medieval spelling was Piroska or Piriska? And if the name Borbala was used at that time?

The medieval spelling form was Pirisk. And yes, Borbala was used at that time.

The most common Hungarian names in the 11-14.th century:

Men: András, Béla, Benedek, Bot, Bulcsú, Cseke, Csoma, Egyed, Éliás, Farkas, Gergely, György, Gyula, Hipolit, István, Izsák, Jákob, János, Kozma, László, Lőrinc, Lukács, Márkus, Márton, Máté, Mátyás, Mihály, Miklós, Nemhő, Orbán, Ős, Pál, Salamon, Sámson, Saul, Sebestyén, Simon, Tamás, Tompa, Vásárd, Vid, Vasad

Women: Erzsébet, Margit, Katalin, Anna, Ilona, Klára, Aglent, Ágnes, Kunigunda, Sebe, Mária, Jolán, Ágota, Csala, Magdolna, Liliom, Viola, Borbála, Izolda, Rózsa, Gyöngy, Petronella, Dorottya, Cecília, Gertrúd, Lúcia, Adél, Dominika, Húg, Rozina, Benedikta, Anasztázia, Judit



The use of surnames was not widespread at the time. But the use of clan names began in the early 13th century. At later the clan names transform to family names.

Clan names:
Aba
Ábrány
Adorján
Agmánd
Ajtony
Ákus
Apor
Almád
Baksa
Balog
Bana
Barocs
Bor
Barsa
Becse
Bél
Bicskei
Bogátradvány
Boszlig
Bucska
Budmer
Bús
Búzád
Csák
Csanád
Csolt
Divék
Dorozsma
Elek
Érd
Ethuruh
Etre
Frangepán
Gatal
Geregye
Gúg
Gútkeled
Gyovád
Gyüre
Hahót
Héder
Herény
Hermán
Hodos
Holló
Hunt-Pázmány
Igmánd
Ják
Jenő
Jőre
Kaál
Kacsics
Kán
Kaplony
Kartal
Káta
Katapán
Katyuz
Kér
Kézdi
Kolcs
Kölcse
Kürt
Lád
Lőrinte
Ludány
Magyar
Megyes
Miskolc
Monoszló
Mortumis
Nádasd
Nánabeszter
Németi
Nolcsa
Osli
Otrokocs
Örsúr
Péc
Pok
Pöse
Rád
Rátót
Rosd
Sártvány
Szák
Szalók
Szil
Tétény
Tibold
Tomaj
Türje
Túroly
Tyukod
Vojk
Vojn
Záh
Zsadány

[Jurand of Cracow]

Thanks again, @szikelkun! I've included your proposals into the mods, it's contains now +100 Hungarian names