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    Newspapers, TV, aand radio also give people voices.
    No, they do not.
    TTaking away the right to deny service infringes on basic business rights.
    Pfft, same argument can be made in regards to any law or regulation form labor laws to environmental regulations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanoi View Post
    The Fairness Doctrine is gone and it had to do with airing issues related to the public and allowing contrasting views. FCC got rid of that years ago. They weren't forced in any way to give just anyone a platform.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FCC_fairness_doctrine

    The Equal Time rule was superceded by the Comminucations Act of 1934 and it has to do with giving the same amount of air time to political candidates not forcing them to give everyone a platform.

    The rule has also changed numerous times, has numerous exceptions, and is nit enforced with broadcast television and because radio no longer holds debares they are pretty much no longer bound.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal-time_rule
    So they were forced to give people platforms. At some time. Not "never".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heathen Hammer View Post
    No, they do not
    Yes they do. They are platforms. Can people no longer voice their opinions? Cause thats the definition of a platform.

    Pfft, same argument can be made in regards to any law or regulation form labor laws to environmental regulations.
    Yep but there are actual reasons for those unlike yours.

    Quote Originally Posted by Infidel144 View Post
    So they were forced to give people platforms. At some time. Not "never".
    Nope. Public issues aren't people. Contrasting views aren't people. Equal air time is not people or forcing people to be given a platform.

    Please feel free to quote either law were it says that either radio are broadcast television must give people access to their platform.
    Last edited by Vanoi; July 21, 2019 at 10:26 AM.

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    To claim that newspapers radios and similar media give people voices is an opinion that seems to be completely disconnected from reality.
    At the same time Golden Dawn was represented in the parliament, having hundreds of thousands of Greek votes, it was still banned from all major media.
    As for the YT ban I don't really see it going anywhere, as there are other media that can be used. Even now I can still watch YT channels that I like. There's really nothing they can do to silence us, but their attempt to do it shows their panic and their inability to utter any meaningful argument.
    In a few words, they are clearly showing who the real nazi is, argumentatively naked for all the world to see. "Shame, shame" as Game of Thrones would put it. .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanoi View Post
    Nope. Public issues aren't people. Contrasting views aren't people. Equal air time is not people or forcing people to be given a platform.

    Please feel free to quote either law were it says that either radio are broadcast television must give people access to their platform.
    People present contrasting views and public issues. Political candidates are people. The government has compelled broadcast media. Your statement about "never" is just wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infidel144 View Post
    People present contrasting views and public issues.
    Yes but anyone or is the broadcasting company allowed to pick who gets to present the contrasting view? Meaning they aren't forced to give anyone a platform.

    Political candidates are people. The government has compelled broadcast media.
    Compell them to have equal air time not platforms

    Your statement about "never" is just wrong.
    No iits still corrext. I'll ask again since you ignored my question. Where does it say in either law that these media entities must give people platforms?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanoi View Post
    Yes but anyone or is the broadcasting company allowed to pick who gets to present the contrasting view? Meaning they aren't forced to give anyone a platform.
    You did not say "anyone" you said people.

    Compell them to have equal air time not platforms
    Is a broadcasting company a platform? If so then these platforms were compelled to give equal time to certain people.

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    No iits still corrext. I'll ask again since you ignored my question. Where does it say in either law that these media entities must give people platforms?
    You did not ask a question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanoi View Post
    Yes they do. They are platforms. Can people no longer voice their opinions? Cause thats the definition of a platform.
    No, old media gives voice to... itself.
    Yep but there are actual reasons for those unlike yours.
    Except that there are plenty of reasons why corporations shouldn't control speech on the Internet. You just support corporate censorship because you seem to agree with their bias.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heathen Hammer View Post
    No, old media gives voice to... itself.
    Fascists spread Putin's word to people too deranged or daft to live in the real world. Nobody owes these people a living.


    Quote Originally Posted by Heathen Hammer View Post
    Except that there are plenty of reasons why corporations shouldn't control speech on the Internet. You just support corporate censorship because you seem to agree with their bias.
    So if I were to advertise some Nazi Milo Yiannopoulos butt plugs on this forum, GED is compelled to let me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NosPortatArma View Post
    free discourse is impaired thats the point. youtube reaches a huge audience. if youtube can arbitrarily decide to silence people, they have a great power over public discourse which they should not have.
    Twitch also has a huge audience. As does Netflix, and Friends re-runs on TNT. None of those coporations are obligated to broadcast balanced political discourse. Nor did I see you, or any other TWC poster rail about the unbalanced nature of TV channels and the things they broadcast. Should we demand Pornhub be forbidden from removing specific content from their site too in the spirit of "free discourse"? Of course not.

    Youtube can and should exercise their ability to remove content they don't like. It is entirely their prerogative. If you don't like it, don't watch it. Nobody is stopping you from hosting your own video sharing site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sukiyama View Post

    Youtube can and should exercise their ability to remove content they don't like. It is entirely their prerogative. If you don't like it, don't watch it. Nobody is stopping you from hosting your own video sharing site.
    The problem boils down to entitlement and unwarranted self-importance. They really do think that Youtube should be forced to pay them money for the privilege of hosting their videos. Why? Because they are inherently better than everyone else and deserve special treatment, all the time and every time. Having never progressed beyond toddlerhood emotionally, they think that anyone who doesn't do what they say or give them what they want is solely interested in being mean to them for it's own sake.

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    Default Re: Nazi Punch - Youtube bans inherently discriminatory videos

    Quote Originally Posted by mongrel View Post
    Fascists spread Putin's word to people too deranged or daft to live in the real world. Nobody owes these people a living.




    So if I were to advertise some Nazi Milo Yiannopoulos butt plugs on this forum, GED is compelled to let me?
    i am sure our conservative friends would support uncensored LGBTQ content, as well as sex ed and other "morally dangerous" material on youtube, including buttplugs. OR WOULD THEY?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sukiyama View Post
    Twitch also has a huge audience. As does Netflix, and Friends re-runs on TNT. None of those coporations are obligated to broadcast balanced political discourse. Nor did I see you, or any other TWC poster rail about the unbalanced nature of TV channels and the things they broadcast. Should we demand Pornhub be forbidden from removing specific content from their site too in the spirit of "free discourse"? Of course not.

    Youtube can and should exercise their ability to remove content they don't like. It is entirely their prerogative. If you don't like it, don't watch it. Nobody is stopping you from hosting your own video sharing site.
    It is too big to be considered just that. Which is why no apocalypse will happen once big tech is forced to give everyone platform on what essentially is a public forum for all intents and purposes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infidel144 View Post
    You did not say "anyone" you said people.
    Don't need to. These media entities aren't forced to give people platforms which is correct.



    Quote Originally Posted by Infidel144 View Post
    Is a broadcasting company a platform? If so then these platforms were compelled to give equal time to certain people.
    Except the law says equal air time not equal platforms. In fact it does not once say it has to give a platform to anyone. They don't have to give a platform to either candidate. The rules only state that if they do, it has to be equal air time.


    Quote Originally Posted by Infidel144 View Post
    You did not ask a question.
    My mistake but i did now. You going to answer it?



    Quote Originally Posted by Heathen Hammer View Post
    No, old media gives voice to... itself.
    So you have proof for this claim hat old media has never given a voice to anyone but itself?

    Quote Originally Posted by Heathen Hammer View Post
    Except that there are plenty of reasons why corporations shouldn't control speech on the Internet. You just support corporate censorship because you seem to agree with their bias.
    They don't control speech, just the content on theirs services. Debunked this like 10 times now. Try again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sukiyama View Post
    T Should we demand Pornhub be forbidden from removing specific content from their site too in the spirit of "free discourse"? Of course not.

    Youtube can and should exercise their ability to remove content they don't like. It is entirely their prerogative. If you don't like it, don't watch it. Nobody is stopping you from hosting your own video sharing site.
    Imagine a poor young couple engorged with lust , who upon searching for the ideal visuals to help release said ardour, come across some clothed Katie Hopkins, nude Tommy Robinson videos. Or some 'Free Tommy Robinson' prison shower scenes. That would be enough to disable any tadger or quim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanoi View Post
    So you have proof for this claim hat old media has never given a voice to anyone but itself?
    Huh? I'm struggling to see where you are trying to go here. Who else do you think old media gives voice to?

    They don't control speech, just the content on theirs services. Debunked this like 10 times now. Try again.
    Same thing for all intents and purposes. You didn't really debunk anything, you just keep repeating same talking points that were already proven wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heathen Hammer View Post
    Huh? I'm struggling to see where you are trying to go here. Who else do you think old media gives voice to?.
    Certainly not to rambling loons and terrorists


    Quote Originally Posted by Heathen Hammer View Post
    HSame thing for all intents and purposes. You didn't really debunk anything, you just keep repeating same talking points that were already proven wrong.
    So you are suggesting that we must have compulsory Tommy Robinson prison shower S&M or Pam Geller/ Katie Hopkins milkshake frottage on Pornhub,or else?
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    Default Re: Nazi Punch - Youtube bans inherently discriminatory videos

    Quote Originally Posted by Heathen Hammer View Post
    Huh? I'm struggling to see where you are trying to go here. Who else do you think old media gives voice to?
    People HH. Good example is editorials and local broadcasting. People yse it all the time as a platform. Social media is no different.


    Same thing for all intents and purposes. You didn't really debunk anything, you just keep repeating same talking points that were already proven wrong.
    It is debunked. Unless you finally have that proof that these companies control all speech over the Internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanoi View Post
    People HH. Good example is editorials and local broadcasting. People yse it all the time as a platform. Social media is no different.
    No, Vanoi, you can't just walk into CNN studio and broadcast something. They can chose to interview someone or something but that's their decision to pick someone and they can always leave out stuff that person says that they don't like. That's not giving platform. Same thing with editorials. They won't publish anything unless they agree with it. So do you have any actual proof for your claim or not.

    It is debunked. Unless you finally have that proof that these companies control all speech over the Internet.
    They are huge oligopolies that control a large segment of social media market, by virtue of that they can control speech on the Internet. I'm surprised I have to explain basic stuff over and over again, even though your point has been disproven multiple times.

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