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    Default Re: John Cleese: London doesn't feel like an English city anymore. Legitimate to prefer some cultures over others

    which is why they want more of them.
    Funny that hoe so many red states have higher poverty rates than California. In absolute terms of course California has more poor people and homeless because it well bigger than any other state. And of again the weather is such the homeless don't die off in the winter. Public sanitation is tricky in the US people in the US are well prudes. The US could put open public urinals and drop pits near where the homeless gather and betting that unlike Kenya nobody would use them.

    And we are yet to hear of same situation in any "evil" Red state. And if by "success" you mean being ruled by people who are unable to do things that were done by Romans thousands of years ago (like sanitation) then sure.
    You do realize how vast large the mortality rate in Rome (imperial city) was amongst the poor? And as I said the US has managed to retain its puritanical roots in odd was one is roman style open public facilities simply would be pointless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heathen Hammer View Post
    Just because billionaires in California have more wealth, doesn't mean that the rest of the population isn't in abysmal conditions. And we are yet to hear of same situation in any "evil" Red state. And if by "success" you mean being ruled by people who are unable to do things that were done by Romans thousands of years ago (like sanitation) then sure.
    The point is that Democrats seem to be too incompetent to actually be in power. The other thing is that Democrats rely on poor people - which is why they want more of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Basil II the B.S View Post
    I have no problem with anyone until they give me reason to dislike them.
    I actually like the world to have variety and it's great that there are East-Asians, South Asians, Sub-Saharian Africans,North Africans etc. That's actual diversity. Unlike the post-racial world wanted by white liberals where everyone is a... brown entity.
    Brown, Basil? why brown?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludicus View Post
    Brown, Basil? why brown?
    He’s referring to this.

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    So...it is basically an anti-miscegenation thing? Are people still really against that for...reasons?
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    Basil’s posts do consistently come across as a racist paranoia against ‘liberals’, yes.
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    Political violence wasn't started or popularized by Nazis, nor is there any association between the two. The fact that Antifa violently respond to far-right movements is a sign of a healthy and responsible polity, not authoritarian groupthink. Indeed, political violence is often the most effective and most responsible method to prevent normalization of abhorrent ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aexodus View Post
    Basil’s posts do consistently come across as a racist paranoia against ‘liberals’, yes.
    My question is what if my son marries a Latina and has kid and that marries a immigrant from Thailand and they have a kid... scenario one cool I got a grandchild before I passed I going to spoil her/him to point of getting angry parental phone texts. Basil the white (white sub ethnicity ) nature of my country is dying ... To bad I don't live in the Republic of Rome and could kill my child for the offense. In any case at the grandchild does race even make meaningful sense anymore , and ethnicity would have to be marican.

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    So...it is basically an anti-miscegenation thing? Are people still really against that for...reasons?
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    Quote Originally Posted by conon394 View Post

    Brown people are scary were you not on the email list?
    That along with "SOCIALISM! BE SCARED!" comprise almost the entirety of modern conservative thinking. It's 100% fear-based.

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    I know a guy like Basil in the real world too. My ex girlfriend was an Arab and the fact that I was dating outside my race was shocking to that guy. Even though we were friends for the most part, he just couldn't fathom how I could be with someone non-white. I told him I couldn't care less if the white race dies out, it's just a colour man, who cares at the end of the day. It's all just fear mongering that the brown people will take over Europe and America and genocide the whites or something. Maybe they're just projecting .

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    Quote Originally Posted by conon394 View Post
    Funny that hoe so many red states have higher poverty rates than California. In absolute terms of course California has more poor people and homeless because it well bigger than any other state. And of again the weather is such the homeless don't die off in the winter. Public sanitation is tricky in the US people in the US are well prudes. The US could put open public urinals and drop pits near where the homeless gather and betting that unlike Kenya nobody would use them.
    If you measure economy by how well corporations and billionaires are doing, then California is great. The problems appear when one realizes that that other segments of population exist, and they are left out of "economic success".
    You do realize how vast large the mortality rate in Rome (imperial city) was amongst the poor? And as I said the US has managed to retain its puritanical roots in odd was one is roman style open public facilities simply would be pointless.
    So Romans figured out that sanitation should be a thing thousands of years ago, while Democrats in California clearly are incapable of that.
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    That along with "SOCIALISM! BE SCARED!" comprise almost the entirety of modern conservative thinking. It's 100% fear-based.
    It is actually quite opposite. Right-wing way of thinking is about effectiveness and personal responsibility, while liberal/left thinking is fear-based, where everyone is supposed to be afraid of "the evil right", Russians, Iran and pretty much whoever anyone elese that mainstream media determines to be the next boogeyman.

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    If you measure economy by how well corporations and billionaires are doing, then California is great. The problems appear when one realizes that that other segments of population exist, and they are left out of "economic success".
    being in the lowest quartile of poverty contradicts your statement.

    Fundamentally the problem is the US public health system and poor national health care the. depending on data sets up to maybe 50% of the homeless a are afflicted with mental illness or drug addiction. Even if California were to follow the New York model and build/subsidize large numbers of shelter with permanent to semi permanent residence standards there is a problem, weather. Unlike New York there is no winter to drive those 50% into shelters where they will have get treatment off drugs or on a lot homeless can likely move on. that 50% is more or less lost to economic opportunity no matter what. More subsided low income housing would probably help the rest.

    If you measure economy by how well corporations and billionaires are doing,
    That is sort of the norm for new gilded age in every state.
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    This board of Roman strategy games is really cool. I can say things like, no one is equal, culture is genetic, etcetera, and not have an admin literally trying to cater to a percent of people that can't comprehend that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob69Joe View Post
    This board of Roman strategy games is really cool. I can say things like, no one is equal, culture is genetic, etcetera, and not have an admin literally trying to cater to a percent of people that can't comprehend that.
    Well other members will point out culture is not in point of fact genetic being a social construct its a nurture thing. Nor is anyone equal at any one thing clearly defined but than again nobody is superior at everything clearly defined. And of course life tasks are typically a metric of skills combined so one good attribute can make up some other failing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jansenfinn View Post
    I know a guy like Basil in the real world too. My ex girlfriend was an Arab and the fact that I was dating outside my race was shocking to that guy. Even though we were friends for the most part, he just couldn't fathom how I could be with someone non-white. I told him I couldn't care less if the white race dies out, it's just a colour man, who cares at the end of the day. It's all just fear mongering that the brown people will take over Europe and America and genocide the whites or something. Maybe they're just projecting .
    My life long best friend is a British born, ethnic Turk, Bahreini citizen. How does it feel to post such ing idiocy without knowing anything about.... well anything?
    But please, do go on. I love when liberals post completely retarded theories and embarass themselves. Hell, it's my ing mission on this forum to highlight daily events where liberal retards around the world expose themselves as the ing evil, racist, bigoted, sexist, intolerant, genocidal human garbage they are. We need to come to the point that one hateful cretins on your side does something unforgivable to someone on my side, then the problem will sort itself out.

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    Brown, Basil? why brown?
    Assuming we all become a mixed race thing, what colour do you think it's going to be?

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    Hes referring to this.

    Nah. More like the Goobacks thing.




    Pansexual genderless colourless. Then everyone finally may be equal. The world liberals are trying to build. Honestly, getting nuked by North Korea seems like a valid alternative.
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    Default Re: John Cleese: London doesn't feel like an English city anymore. Legitimate to prefer some cultures over others

    You know Basil for somebody who will call a posted ideal retarded, you have a bit of thin skin. Its not as if some of yours don't show a lack knowing stuff as in the other thread where you apparently think a Hindu president with a minority will be able to alter the US Constitution.
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    Hyperides of Athens: We know, replied he, that Antipater is good, but we (the Demos of Athens) have no need of a master at present, even a good one.

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    First part: what are you even talking about?
    Second part: you are making a strawman out of a hypothetical scenario.

    WHAT

    Rethorical question btw. I don't care about your answer given the quality of the above.

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    Sorry bout that it was bit garbled I usually go back re check stuff as I noted before had significant conclusion and typing is a bit odd now a days I don't always get what I think typing to the screen (so sometimes best to wait to see an edit before commenting sometimes). Anyway your scenario was so outlandish in the setting of the USA it seemed to me well an attempt at distraction and or guiding the thread to argue about things that were no more likely than what if the children Chtullu took over the government with a minority and imposed the worship of the great old ones. Although I suppose I might better have said ad absurdum (the conclusions that is from a not WASP president). But back to the point you essentially posted a derogatory rant but get annoyed at somebody criticizing your preposterous hypothetical. Also in terms of style why bother with words that will be censored? It makes you post look garish there are completely non censored words that convey the same force of emotion.
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    Hyperides of Athens: We know, replied he, that Antipater is good, but we (the Demos of Athens) have no need of a master at present, even a good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Basil II the B.S View Post
    My life long best friend is a British born, ethnic Turk, Bahreini citizen. .
    At some point in a racist argument, the ethnic best friend card is deployed.
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    Over these past few years, the more and more i have visited London i can't help but notice how....African it's gotten, and i don't just mean the people on the Tube.
    I mean the advertisements, the TV; it's like there's a massive afro-fetish on the par of the powers that be. I'd say that's problematic considering this is not a multicultural melting pot like america, but bloody britain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exarch View Post
    Over these past few years, the more and more i have visited London i can't help but notice how....African it's gotten, and i don't just mean the people on the Tube.
    I mean the advertisements, the TV; it's like there's a massive afro-fetish on the par of the powers that be. I'd say that's problematic considering this is not a multicultural melting pot like america, but bloody britain.
    Have no ideal what you are talking about looked like London to me
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