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    Default Javelins removal mod

    Hey guys thanks in advance for being a great community and helping with my modding questions.

    I was wondering if any experienced modders could outline the steps I would need to follow to remove javelins from a melee unit.

    So for example a sword or spear unit that throws a javelin before melee, how could this unit be changed to be a melee only unit?

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    Default Re: Javelins removal mod

    Just lower their ammo to 0.

    Keep in mind this will heavily dumb down AI units as without it AI will just do zombie charge forward and ignore own ranged units existence.

    Only reason why our AI armies skirmish before melee is due to melee units having ammo.
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    Default Re: Javelins removal mod

    Interesting, thanks for the heads up.

    I didn't intend to remove javelins from the game entirely, just wanted to remove them from some of the "Low" tier units across the board. I wanted to make this "ability" more rare like in the original RTW, where only certain higher tier units had access to javelins.

    So any AI melee units that have this removed will bumrush the player and not allow their ranged units to skirmish? What would happen if an AI army was comprised of low tier units with no javelins and the medium to high tier units still had them? What about armies primarily comprised of hoplites that have never had javelins?

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    Default Re: Javelins removal mod

    It will just make early battles even easier for the player and just make light units even weaker than they are now. Other issue is that it means that AI unit do not change their initial targets so for example when they have ranged attack they are able to change target after using ammo based on the situation after volley. Hence why most of javelins of infantry are rather weak since their main point is to make AI better.

    Hoplites and pikes are using Phalanx AI which is overwritting any other unit behaviour is you give it to them, which is why we have separate unit category for them.
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    What is the ratio of removing javelins from low tier units and make them a feature of better troops? Isn't this a bit artificial progression making? A javelin was one of the cheapest weapons and could be added and used easily by the most humble warriors, if they wanted. Also the weaker, like youths, could carry it and take part of battle with it.

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