The latest anti-liberal rant thread (get your daily dose here)

[irontaino]

Is a single students overreaction really newsworthy though? Slow day at Fox, I suppose.

[Infidel144]

“...naturally manifested features.”

Please stop using gendered language.
It is very offensive...

[Heathen Hammer]

“We don’t want their kind working in our area. There are women* and children here and there’s no telling what these cis men might do to attack/rape us if allowed in our homes. I feel violated just thinking about them, what with their bulging, chiseled physique, textbook hormone levels and naturally manifested features.”

Gosh when have we heard this before…… #ClownWorld

That's just your average human brain after years of bleak existence in blue checkmark echo chamber.

[EmperorBatman999]

I’ve become increasingly convinced that the entire US is experiencing severe cognitive decline, and these stories seem to only affirm that feeling.

[antaeus]

Is a single students overreaction really newsworthy though? Slow day at Fox, I suppose.

Fox specialises in raising moral panics out of random occurrences. Just look at how they talk about all the outrage at universities these days... when they actually mean one small arts college in New England...

Wait. I'm in the wrong thread to be so specific. Swap out Fox for CNN please... and arts college for technical institute... and New England for the Mid West...

[alhoon]

Please stop using gendered language.
It is very offensive...

Get with the times Infidel, you don't say "please" when people use things that for some reason offend you. You foam at the mouth as you scream wild-eyed that these persons should lose their jobs and livelihoods.

I’ve become increasingly convinced that the entire US is experiencing severe cognitive decline, and these stories seem to only affirm that feeling.

The Roman society started its severe decline a couple of generations after Rome's mighty armies were winning their biggest victories.

[alhoon]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/19/u...ls-growth.html

(Also, the not paywall version here: https://www.yahoo.com/news/amid-pand...182806784.html )

Not entirely sure this is the right thread for it, or the right-wing complain thread.


Progressives and Covid are leading people to enroll their kids to bible-thumber schools. Am I glad that there will be more conservatives and a sustained pushback against the immoral parts of the progressive agenda? YES!
Am I glad that there will be more brainwashed Christianofascists that are as bad as the brainwashed progressives and a sustained push towards return to the 19th century? Hell no!

Progressives are ruining the world (not just the USA, the world) in two ways: (I) They create a wave of brainwashed pink-haired progressives that complain that their universities informed them just a day prior that there would be men that feel they are men passing through their safe space and (II) they create a wave of brainwashed bible-thumbing conservatives that do mass shootings of gay people or abortion clinic bombings.

[antaeus]

Progressives are ruining the world (not just the USA, the world) in two ways: (I) They create a wave of brainwashed pink-haired progressives that complain that their universities informed them just a day prior that there would be men that feel they are men passing through their safe space and (II) they create a wave of brainwashed bible-thumbing conservatives that do mass shootings of gay people or abortion clinic bombings.

SO... what you're saying, is that we need a pro-moderate centrist thread where we can share cups of tea and eat scones while engaging in polite conversation about how to string up extremists of all shapes.

[Heathen Hammer]

The Roman society started its severe decline a couple of generations after Rome's mighty armies were winning their biggest victories.

Good men create good times, good times create bad men.

[alhoon]

SO... what you're saying, is that we need a pro-moderate centrist thread where we can share cups of tea and eat scones while engaging in polite conversation about how to string up extremists of all shapes.

No.
I am saying we need two pro-moderate, centrist threads where we can share cups of tea and eat scones while engaging in impolite conversation about how dangerous the extremists of all shapes are while implying we are much better as we laugh at them.

And we have those two threats. This is the first one, the far-right bashing one is the other one.

[Heathen Hammer]

In the past 20 years globalist liberalism caused multiple wars with civilian loss of life in those far exceeding victims of all "extreme" ideas put together, a pandemic caused by globalist liberal open borders policies and a whole bundle of ecological issues, caused by globalist corporations and policies. So altogether, its pretty obvious, that its not the extremists, but centrist politicians, elites and the establishment that are the real problem.

[Lord Thesaurian]

Global neoliberalism was possible because of unipolarity and Pax Americana. The years since the end of the Cold War have been the most peaceful and prosperous in centuries, and the prevalence of autocracy vs democracy in the world has inverted for the better since 1980.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Of course, those who’ve hated America regardless of its foreign policy exploit the lack of any real alternative global system to blame America for everything wrong in the world. However, the only question now is, what comes after American primacy, and will the emerging multipolarity and great power conflicts result in sustainable rebalancing, or will we see a return to the norm of wars and rumors of wars throughout much of the world as the US turns inward?

[Heathen Hammer]

The years since the end of the Cold War have been the most peaceful and prosperous in centuries

Only too a small percentage of Western elites that separate themselves from consequences of their policy with an army of armed security guards inside their fortified mansions. In terms of prosperity, average Western Joe can buy less and is taxed more then Average Joe from 70s Cold War years. In terms of peace we have Forever wars that have been going since 90s, we have countless regional conflicts all over the world, and other instabilities, primarily caused by globalist liberalism.

and the prevalence of autocracy vs democracy in the world has inverted for the better since 1980.

Not really, autocracies just figured that if they label themselves as "democracy" whole racket can last longer. Americans aren't ruled by Democrats or Republicans, they are ruled by Blackrock, which happens to own majority of politicians in both and Americans can vote as much as they want, but they will never vote away their real rulers that are conglomerates of megacorporations and banks .

However, the only question now is, what comes after American primacy, and will the emerging multipolarity and great power conflicts result in sustainable rebalancing, or will we see a return to the norm of wars and rumors of wars throughout much of the world as the US turns inward?

Depends on how things go. Best outcome is some kind of regime change in the West, which would lead to massive economic and political overhaul, that would ensure that private corporate interests don't trump interests the people. We definitely will need a new ruling class.

[Prodromos]

The awkwardest pause: Ben & Jerry try to explain why they sell ice cream in Georgia and Texas but not in Israel

(Skip to 2:54)

Alexi McCammond went easy on them by comparing their stance on Israel with their stance on Georgia’s voting law and Texas’s near-ban on abortion. She could have called them out for their parent company doing business with some truly repulsive foreign regimes. But her analogy nudges them to try to explain why they felt obliged to go looking for offenses to progressivism abroad, in Israel, instead of tackling ones here at home. I think she’s slyly making the point that their steely social principles might waver when faced with the thought of forgoing the huge, fantastically lucrative U.S. market. You won’t lose much boycotting a small part of a small nation like Israel. But you stand to lose a lot picking a culture-war fight with the state of Texas and American conservatives more broadly.

They’re men of ice cream and men of principle, but only so long as the principle doesn’t meaningfully start to affect sales of the ice cream.

This clip has gone viral because of how unprepared Ben Cohen is to defend his position on Israel when confronted about it. To all appearances, he hasn’t given these matters five minutes of real thought.

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What you get vividly from the brief exchange in the clip above is how glib and faddish much of progressive contempt for Israel is. That’s not to minimize its more sinister elements, which smuggle in anti-semitism under the cover of “anti-colonialism,” but I don’t get the sense that Cohen is driven by animus. He’s simply absorbed the received wisdom on his side that Israel is somehow uniquely bad and has never been asked to question it before. Too bad for him that the first time happened on camera.

Reminds me of this classic: AOC hates Israel but doesn't know why

[Lord Thesaurian]

Real wages in the US have increased since the end of the Cold War. If you include total compensation, average wages have risen dramatically since the 70s. Relative global income inequality and absolute poverty have fallen steadily during that time.

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[alhoon]

In the past 20 years globalist liberalism caused multiple wars with civilian loss of life in those far exceeding victims of all "extreme" ideas put together, a pandemic caused by globalist liberal open borders policies and a whole bundle of ecological issues, caused by globalist corporations and policies. So altogether, its pretty obvious, that its not the extremists, but centrist politicians, elites and the establishment that are the real problem.

Nope
The past 30 years are the most prosperous for the Western civilization. Sure, it's not as good for the Middle east but the Western voters have the higher development indices they ever had.
Also, the ecological issues are now caused in large part by India and China that are poor per capita but huge economies - requiring tons of energy. In the West, they are caused by alt-rightwings that consider climate change eeeeevil propaganda.
In the past decades, they were caused by greed. Not progressive greed, liberal greed, far-right greed - simply greed.

[Heathen Hammer]

Average American wagie can afford much less then he could in 1970s, long before Cold War was to end, so no, while economy did grow under certain metrics, majority of population is still worse off. Just go ahead and compare housing prices, post-secondary tuitions, etc.

[Heathen Hammer]

Nope
The past 30 years are the most prosperous for the Western civilization. Sure, it's not as good for the Middle east but the Western voters have the higher development indices they ever had.
Also, the ecological issues are now caused in large part by India and China that are poor per capita but huge economies - requiring tons of energy. In the West, they are caused by alt-rightwings that consider climate change eeeeevil propaganda.
In the past decades, they were caused by greed. Not progressive greed, liberal greed, far-right greed - simply greed.

Well, no.
The whole "prosperous" thing is kind of an empty statement, since its quite obvious that metrics that ignore purchasing power are useless since they don't reflect the economic realities. Overall, as I cited above, average person in 70s could afford far more then one can do now, as wages stagnated, prices grew, while labor value was artificially lowered via mass-immigration, while inflation still goes on. Latter is a major reason why wealth is being syphoned out of lower classes at much higher rate then before.
Climate issues are first and foremost consequences of globalist neoliberalism, that empowered economic growth in nations that don't have any real environmental regulations. In the West, environmental issues are primarily caused by elites and megacorporations: Anyone remembers how BP created a disaster in Gulf of Mexico? Pepperidge farm always remembers.
I don't think the problems can really be solved without ruling class being replaced with something else.

[Lord Thesaurian]

Per capita net greenhouse gas emissions have fallen among the OECD and EU member states since the end of the Cold War.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

[Cope]

Is a single students overreaction really newsworthy though? Slow day at Fox, I suppose.

It's indicative of two broader problems: (1) that lib/left prejudices are not simply facilitated, but encouraged and; (2) that said prejudices are often used to invert reality in order to present the privileged as the oppressed.