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    That's because tribalism finds plenty of ways to manifest itself, not just ethnic belonging, nor religious. Generally the first form of tribalism is the family. The second layer is clan, third the ethnic group.

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    Which one of those 5 is not true?
    Whatever you need to tell yourself to make yourself feel better about your own life.

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    Ad hominem. You just claimed defeat.

    Bye.

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    @Basil

    On dodge-ball you what's funny you did not bother to drill down and look at some the other links from the same source on Doge Ball did you because there some a fairly excited ones about as an adult sport. Also I suppose you did not bother spend any time reading the other articles in the Oh the Humanities series, they are wide ranging and not just what you would deem SJW thing. Honestly I'm not sure this was trolling/sarcasim anyway but I assume the abstract was earnest but an abstract at a conference is not a published paper not even in a second tier journal.

    That being said I could loose doge-ball as a HS sport [Admission was not good at it offensively but had a good handle on blocking with a ball so was a survivor not loathed or particularly like by any of the athletic team set whom the instructor always picked as captains so got picked mid pack so it not like I just saying this because I was the last person picked and promptly knocked out and developed some complex about it]. There are couple problems with as I see it it does create a gym class game that does privilege a certain set of kids. Lets recall a lot of kids are still growing and that alone can cause a bit awkwardness but somebody done growing a say at 17 (say you know the guy who already has beard) is going to have an advantage. Also of course what if you are great a swimming or say hockey the game does probably favor say the basketball team members. I think there is a mistake in the abstract in singling out the selection process. I assume they mean the one used back in my day when two captains were picked and they then picked took terns picking other kids. That was cruel and need not have been part of the game. The instructor should just randomly been selected that removes the petty favoritism and cliche-ism that pervades the process. But that happens all the time with the public picking method. Yes sure that is how the world works anyway, but the public nature of it is rather cruel. You don't have to stand and watch as a group decides if you or Joe or Sally get a job that's private.

    Also technically its not a very good game. As I recall in double class of 40 people 2/3rds or more ended just sitting after being knocked out that it was not unlikely that most of class just spent the hour watching 5 or 6 people playing out the end game. A day of inside floor hockey saw the whole class being active all the time or say the 5000 meter run saw many active enough to be puking at the end. Good stuff that.
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    Ad hominem. You just claimed defeat.

    Bye.
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    I recommend being moderate towards moderates, and being radical towards radicals.
    What's your stance on this, moderate or radical?

    "Axios on HBO" poll: 55% of women prefer socialism - Axios
    4 in 10 Americans say they would prefer living in a socialist country over a capitalist one.
    A majority of men prefer to live in a capitalist country.

    Between the lines: As the Harris poll results below show, the public has varying levels of agreement on what exactly constitutes a socialist political system.

    1. Universal healthcare: 76%
    2. Tuition free education: 72%
    3. Living wage: 68%
    4. State-controlled economy: 66%
    5. State control and regulation of private property : 61%
    6. High taxes for the rich: 60%
    7. State-controlled media and communication: 57%
    8. Strong environmental regulations: 56%
    9. High public spending: 55%
    10. Government ’’democratizes’’ private businesses — that is, gives workers control over them — to the greatest extent possible: 52%
    11. System dependent on dictatorship: 49%
    12. Workers own and control their places of employment: 48%
    13. Democratically-elected government: 46%

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    Nº 11 and 12, really? 49% and 46%, respectively.That's communism. Number 7 is a prerequisite also needed in illiberal countries.


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    Back in the 40s, Americans fought against the Nazis but didn't become communists.
    Back in the 40's, communists fought against the nazis but didn't become capitalists...
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    I'd personally ask them to define socialism first before anything. When it comes to politics, I find that a humongous amount of people have a vague, often wrong, understanding of concepts. Do they think of socialism as ''state runs the economy''? Or what else? Social-democratic model? I assume they think of Canada, when given the poll, they'd likely end up in something like Venezuela.

    Another example: you ask people whether they favour ''affirmative action''. They say yes. However when you suggest that race should be a factor in hiring, most people disagree. So... what's up with that?
    https://news.gallup.com/opinion/poll...c-opinion.aspx

    The truth of the matter is... most people don't really know what they are being asked about. What you can get at best out of those polls is what worries most people. Healthcare costs are a serious problem in the US, so it's hardly surprising it's that high.
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    Meanwhile I get another field day hammering liberal hypocrisy:

    https://www.researchgate.net/publica..._of_Censorship
    Recent work has suggested that Liberals have sacred values about protecting low status groups and thus are particularly prone to bias against any information that portrays those groups unfavorably. In a preregistered study (n = 559), we tested whether Liberals would support more censorship of information that portrays low status groups unfavorably (that men evolved to be better leaders than women, that Islam is violent and incites terrorism, and that white people score higher on intelligence tests than black people) than similar information that portrays high status groups unfavorably (that women evolved to be better leaders than men, that Christianity is violent and incites terrorism, and that black people score higher on intelligence tests than white people). The results very clearly supported predictions. Liberals consistently displayed double standards in their censorship preferences such that they desired to censor information that portrays low status groups unfavorably more than information that portrays high status groups unfavorably. Moderates and Conservatives supported more similar levels of censorship regardless of whether the information was favorable toward relatively high or low status groups, but Conservatives did display a small preference for censoring Christian violence over Islamic violence. Exploratory analyses also revealed that Millennials might be slightly more in support of censorship than Generation X in general, but Baby Boomers’ censorship support generally fell between that of Generation X and Millennials.
    So we can now state with evidence that liberals apply double-standards to censorship, with specific preferences of what can be said or can't be said. This is very limited with conservatives and non-existing with moderates. With liberals controlling information, then the latter simply no longer can be called as such, as liberals are unable to apply fair standards to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Basil II the B.S View Post
    Meanwhile I get another field day hammering liberals
    I wonder what happened in Basil's life to get so toxic that he finds validation in activities he considers as "a field day hammering liberals".
    Like dude. Nobody cares... even if you are right. Absolutely nobody cares and it in noway improves your life or any other person's.
    I mean back in 2010 these forums were, to me, some exchange of ideas and debate between different PoV.

    Now days conversations such as these are not really about ideas. It is all highly emotional and confrontational.
    When someone is going in with words like these:
    "Meanwhile I get another field day hammering liberals"

    The guy isn't interested in a conversation. This forum just becomes a place for this person to just vent his frustration upon an ideology he feels that threatens him.
    Just earlier he was speaking about inclusiveness and diversity being "attacks" upon him.

    I think these sort of words reveal a lot about the person arguing here.
    This is not about politics or facts. It is about feelings and finding anything to validate and bring attention to those feelings.

    It also reminds of something I saw a while ago about the difference between the right and the left ideology.
    One side believes by giving everyone an equal opportunity to succeed then all would succeed eventually and proportionally.
    The other side believes that not everyone can succeed and to succeed one side must pull themselves up by dragging others down.

    I am going to let you guess who is who but it certainly explains why a certain group is so worried about "Other" people rather than introducing new and innovative ways to improve the lives of their people.
    Think about it.
    Which political side is putting forward new ideas and innovations to and which side continues to stonewall and stop anything that detracts from the status quo.
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    Honestly? I blame Twitter.
    1) it makes it too easy to share information
    2) you get in contact with extremists of the other side
    3) extremist behaviour by liberals is rewarded, while conservatives get the banhammer
    4) it also rewards the gotcha culture

    As for the rest, quite frankly, it's how a lot of people on your side make conservatives feel, all the time. I'm not including you personally anyway. The shouting, aggression, name-calling, censorship. After a while, one simply loses interest in making any effort whatsoever for a compelling argument, since you'll get the same trash anyway. If one has to be demonized for liking the traditional nuclear family or his own ethno-cultural heritage, then what's the point?

    Every single debate is like a walk on a glassy floor: ''you can't say that, that's offensive''. Really? Then maybe someone needs to see what's really offensive.
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    So your entire rationale boils down to "they hurt my feelings"?

    Spending extended amounts of time on Twitter is guaranteed to give anyone cancer. Luckily you got options:

    1. Leave or take a break from the platform
    2. Grow thicker skin.
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    Oh no, you don't get it. I relish the confrontation. Mostly because:
    1) I know where this is going and I'm fairly confident my side will win in that case
    2) I believe Western societies have got decadent, and that's the only reason these people have any voice to begin with

    I'm not offended by them. They are just ing evil. There's zero difference between them and the Khmer Rouge, Maoists and Stalinists.

    At the end of the day, who do you think is going to win on the battlefield? White heterosexual Christian males vs the coalition of pink haired landwhales, cuckold beta male feminists, Islamic terrorists, transpecies genderfluid, BLM, pre-teen drag queens.

    It's actually pretty easy to predict how it ends. While the latter group is busy holding a seminar on unconscious bias in war and the necessity to utilize the correct gender pronouns for whatever bs someone in their group feels today, the first group is going to surround them and finish the job.

    Anyway, some interesting studies on the topic:

    Weak men more likely to be socialists, study claims
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/w...aims-rsnc3l8mk

    Which is good news for my above described scenario.

    A spinster whines against the nuclear family:
    White Families Are Engines Of Inequality
    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/opini...g&guccounter=2

    I assume this genocidal maniac's solution is going to be forced interracial marriage or something along the lines of that.

    But the most interesting is this one:



    Pretty much everyone expresses preferences for their own group. Actually, conservative whites do it less than the average for every other ethnic group. However, White Liberals express a specific disdain for their own group, something completely unique.



    And this is the interesting part: White Liberals hate White people far more than the most Conservatives of Whites prefer White people.
    https://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-new...-white-saviors

    Which proves my point all along. There's a serious racism problem in society, entirely due to White Liberals.


    And I'm not finished yet, because the only effect that taking a ''diversity and inclusion'' class has, is not to make the person more sympathetic towards minorities, but it makes them less sympathetic towards whites.
    The Disturbing Thing I Learned Studying White Privilege and Liberals
    https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/neazxq/the-disturbing-thing-i-learned-studying-white-privilege-and-liberals?utm_campaign=sharebutton


    Ceterum censeo, society will have to deal with the racist white liberal problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Basil II the B.S View Post
    Oh no, you don't get it. I relish the confrontation. Mostly because:
    1) I know where this is going and I'm fairly confident my side will win in that case
    2) I believe Western societies have got decadent, and that's the only reason these people have any voice to begin with

    I'm not offended by them. They are just ing evil. There's zero difference between them and the Khmer Rouge, Maoists and Stalinists.
    If you believe that, you are more close to the Nazis, Khmer Rouge, Bolsheviks or whoever than Twitter could be because you are the one seeing political opponents as literal evil (you know, the first step to committing atrocities?).

    Quote Originally Posted by Basil II the B.S View Post
    At the end of the day, who do you think is going to win on the battlefield? White heterosexual Christian males vs the coalition of pink haired landwhales, cuckold beta male feminists, Islamic terrorists, transpecies genderfluid, BLM, pre-teen drag queens.
    I see you have no idea about demographic breakdowns of the "Left and Right" in the United States nor any idea about military history. The Confederate States of America had a similar attitude early in the US Civil War: "Our boys are rough country boys that know how to handle a gun while the North is just a bunch of soft academics and merchants! This will be easy!"

    Ya wanna ask them how the war went?
    Quote Originally Posted by Basil II the B.S View Post
    It's actually pretty easy to predict how it ends. While the latter group is busy holding a seminar on unconscious bias in war and the necessity to utilize the correct gender pronouns for whatever bs someone in their group feels today, the first group is going to surround them and finish the job.
    You really do swallow propaganda hook, line and sinker. I like the little spicy euphemism at the end: "Finish the job". Can't wait to set up those death camps, can ya? You would do well in 1939 Germany:
    Once again I will be a prophet: should the international (Liberals) succeed, both within and beyond Europe, in plunging mankind into yet another world war, then the result will not be a (Liberalization) of the earth and the victory of (Liberals), but the annihilation of the (Liberalism) in Europe. Thus, the days of propagandist impotence of the non-(Liberals) peoples are over.
    Nice little Hitler quote you reminded me of, just with "Liberals" in place of "Jews"(and derived words). That is basically what you are talking about, no? You want the (Liberals) to make a move so you can justify, *ahem*, "finishing" them, correct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The spartan View Post
    If you believe that, you are more close to the Nazis, Khmer Rouge, Bolsheviks or whoever than Twitter could be because you are the one seeing political opponents as literal evil (you know, the first step to committing atrocities?).
    Dude, these people legitimately hate me for my combination of ethnicity, gender and sexual orientation. Things I can't change. How can I even establish a line of reciprocal respect? They want me and everyone like me as their whipping boy in the name of the glorious vibrant and diverse society.
    Quote Originally Posted by The spartan View Post
    I see you have no idea about demographic breakdowns of the "Left and Right" in the United States nor any idea about military history. The Confederate States of America had a similar attitude early in the US Civil War: "Our boys are rough country boys that know how to handle a gun while the North is just a bunch of soft academics and merchants! This will be easy!"

    Ya wanna ask them how the war went?
    This time we have nukes.
    Quote Originally Posted by The spartan View Post
    You really do swallow propaganda hook, line and sinker. I like the little spicy euphemism at the end: "Finish the job". Can't wait to set up those death camps, can ya? You would do well in 1939 Germany:


    Nice little Hitler quote you reminded me of, just with "Liberals" in place of "Jews"(and derived words). That is basically what you are talking about, no? You want the (Liberals) to make a move so you can justify, *ahem*, "finishing" them, correct?
    Or simply replace Jew with ''straight white male'' and you see the similarity with Nazis and White Liberals.

    Besides, there are dozens of studies by now in this thread showing that conservatives like me are pretty normal people, whose preferences are in line with those of most ethnic groups. The extremists, intolerant, hateful, racists are among white liberals.
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    At the end of the day, who do you think is going to win on the battlefield?
    Gays in:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stonew...ots#Escalation

    Facist Army in Operation Compass:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Compass

    British Empire and Free French

    36,000 men
    275 tanks
    120 guns
    142 aircraft

    versus

    Facist Italian Army:

    150,000 men
    600 tanks & tankettes
    1,600 guns
    331 aircraft

    Losses:

    British Empire and Free French

    500 killed
    1,373 wounded
    55 missing
    26 aircraft

    Facist Italian Army

    5,500+ killed
    10,000 wounded
    133,298 captured
    420 tanks
    845 guns
    564 aircraft










    Result British victory
    Territorial
    changes
    Recapture of western Egypt and occupation of Cyrenaica

    I would not bet my money on Salvini supporter.

    And i would bet among liberals would be many luckily married white men, not straight white incels like on the other side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Basil II the B.S View Post
    Dude, these people legitimately hate me for my combination of ethnicity, gender and sexual orientation. Things I can't change. How can I even establish a line of reciprocal respect? They want me and everyone like me as their whipping boy in the name of the glorious vibrant and diverse society.
    No, I don't accept your interpretation that that is the case. You are either referring to an incredibly minuscule part of the population or are just incredibly hypersensitive. You see, I too am a straight white CIS male. And, probably unlike yourself, have been around some intense SJW types in person. I don't think I have ever once been accused or blamed for anything because of my ethnicity or gender. Are there twitter videos of such things happening? Sure, you have access to everyone in the world with a smartphone that way, of course you can find it. But this is not an actual everyday problem. You aren't actually being harmed or oppressed by these people, you are just saying you are. The Nazis seemed pretty convinced that "the Jews were out to get them" in their own way. Be careful with going overboard on the victim complex.
    Quote Originally Posted by Basil II the B.S View Post
    This time we have nukes.
    So, that's it? You just want the whole world to burn? Can you please get out of the way so the rest of us who don't want that to happen can try and do something about it?
    Quote Originally Posted by Basil II the B.S View Post
    Or simply replace Jew with ''straight white male'' and you see who the similarity with Nazis and White Liberals.
    Except no, it's not. As above, you apparently think an incredibly small portion of the group represents the whole (in which case "your side" would be incredibly ed) or have incredibly thin skin. This is why when I criticize your assertions, I do take some care not to drag "your side" into as well because, although I think your way of thinking is more common than I would like in Right, I don't think it is fair to let people like yourself represent the lot of them. If I believed that I could extrapolate your rhetoric to the political Right as a whole in the US, I could certainly justify much more extreme action against them, in my mind.
    Quote Originally Posted by Basil II the B.S View Post
    Besides, there are dozens of studies by now in this thread showing that conservatives like me are pretty normal people, whose preferences are in line with those of most ethnic groups. The extremists, intolerant, hateful, racists are among white liberals.
    Yes, I am sure that is what you think, that science clearly demonstrates you are part of the ubermensch and the weak sissy liberals are untermensch. That will help dehumanize them when you need to commit your fanciful atrocities. But, instead, I see opinion pieces, a tabloid article referencing a study I can't see without paying them, and screenshots of charts of poll data from what was literally a test sample study. Also a fan of phrenology, are you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The spartan View Post
    No, I don't accept your interpretation that that is the case. You are either referring to an incredibly minuscule part of the population or are just incredibly hypersensitive. You see, I too am a straight white CIS male. And, probably unlike yourself, have been around some intense SJW types in person. I don't think I have ever once been accused or blamed for anything because of my ethnicity or gender. Are there twitter videos of such things happening? Sure, you have access to everyone in the world with a smartphone that way, of course you can find it. But this is not an actual everyday problem. You aren't actually being harmed or oppressed by these people, you are just saying you are. The Nazis seemed pretty convinced that "the Jews were out to get them" in their own way. Be careful with going overboard on the victim complex.
    Unlike the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, I have posted plenty of evidence about the hate based agenda of SJWs. Hell, you just have to take 1 class of ''critical race theory'' or ''gender studies'' or ''intersectionality'' to meet these people. So it's not like it's some hidden conspiracy. They are in plain sight.
    Quote Originally Posted by The spartan View Post
    So, that's it? You just want the whole world to burn? Can you please get out of the way so the rest of us who don't want that to happen can try and do something about it?
    Ah, I'm the problem now? Polarization in the US has nothing to do with me. Though I guess you can be happy I'm not a writer for Fox News. Yet. If anyone working for Fox reads this thread and is interested in working with me, they are welcome.

    Quote Originally Posted by The spartan View Post
    Except no, it's not. As above, you apparently think an incredibly small portion of the group represents the whole (in which case "your side" would be incredibly ed) or have incredibly thin skin. This is why when I criticize your assertions, I do take some care not to drag "your side" into as well because, although I think your way of thinking is more common than I would like in Right, I don't think it is fair to let people like yourself represent the lot of them. If I believed that I could extrapolate your rhetoric to the political Right as a whole in the US, I could certainly justify much more extreme action against them, in my mind.
    The ''woke'' liberals are estimated to be 8-9% of the US population. In relative numbers, it's small. In absolute numbers, it's almost 30 million people. You are also free to justify whatever you prefer against the right. Keep in mind, that the US army is mainly composed of straight white males, in large numbers Republican voters.
    Quote Originally Posted by The spartan View Post
    Yes, I am sure that is what you think, that science clearly demonstrates you are part of the ubermensch and the weak sissy liberals are untermensch. That will help dehumanize them when you need to commit your fanciful atrocities. But, instead, I see opinion pieces, a tabloid article referencing a study I can't see without paying them, and screenshots of charts of poll data from what was literally a test sample study. Also a fan of phrenology, are you?
    No, ''science'' only says that these people hold extreme views and are highly intolerant of different opinions and specific groups.
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    Basil, can you give any examples from your own life of you being persecuted or oppressed for being a white straight male? Not something you read about on the internet. Not something that happened to someone else in another country. Not something a friend told you a friend of a friend of a friend experienced. Something that happened to you. And not something like "These people exist and I don't like that." I mean something real. Something like you were refused service in a restaurant for being white. Or refused a job because you are straight. Or turned away from voting by Jim Crow laws targeting men. Can you think of even one time anything like that happened to you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Basil II the B.S View Post
    Unlike the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, I have posted plenty of evidence about the hate based agenda of SJWs. Hell, you just have to take 1 class of ''critical race theory'' or ''gender studies'' or ''intersectionality'' to meet these people. So it's not like it's some hidden conspiracy. They are in plain sight.
    Wait, you think the Nazis didn't think there was clear evidence of Jewish conspiracy? They legitimate believed it.

    And, as I have already told you, I have met "these people" and they don't act anything like how you tell me they act. You are just as crazy as the Nazis believing in Jewish conspiracies being true. You tell me how horrible the Left is to the Right in the US (as someone who doesn't live here) and then I go outside and don't see that at all.
    Quote Originally Posted by Basil II the B.S View Post
    Ah, I'm the problem now? Polarization in the US has nothing to do with me. Though I guess you can be happy I'm not a writer for Fox News. Yet. If anyone working for Fox reads this thread and is interested in working with me, they are welcome.
    Yes, you encourage the polarization, partisan attitude here in the US and seem to want American on American violence to increase. As a non-American.
    Quote Originally Posted by Basil II the B.S View Post
    The ''woke'' liberals are estimated to be 8-9% of the US population. In relative numbers, it's small. In absolute numbers, it's almost 30 million people. You are also free to justify whatever you prefer against the right. Keep in mind, that the US army is mainly composed of straight white males, in large numbers Republican voters.
    I don't even know the number you are referring to. These gaga fantasies of "the tough Christian white guys will stomp out the libcucks" is really stupid. That isn't how an actual conflict would happen in this Country. You need to get out of your postmodernist bubble.
    Quote Originally Posted by Basil II the B.S View Post
    No, ''science'' only says that these people hold extreme views and are highly intolerant of different opinions and specific groups.
    You got a study that is actually willing to say that in their abstract (or even within the study), or is this just your feels based analysis of data you don't understand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coughdrop addict View Post
    Basil, can you give any examples from your own life of you being persecuted or oppressed for being a white straight male? Not something you read about on the internet. Not something that happened to someone else in another country. Not something a friend told you a friend of a friend of a friend experienced. Something that happened to you. And not something like "These people exist and I don't like that." I mean something real. Something like you were refused service in a restaurant for being white. Or refused a job because you are straight. Or turned away from voting by Jim Crow laws targeting men. Can you think of even one time anything like that happened to you?
    Fortunately we don't have that kind of legislation in Italy, nor we'll likely have it any time soon considering the parties that could advocate it got trounced in the elections. Though quite frankly the fact that the last time they were in power, they unleashed austerity against Italians while at the same time they asked and obtained from the European Commission that funding to welcome immigrants could be unlimited (so there's money, just not for Italians), is enough as evidence. Indeed it pissed off millions and resulted in the above mentioned electoral results.

    Quote Originally Posted by The spartan View Post
    Wait, you think the Nazis didn't think there was clear evidence of Jewish conspiracy? They legitimate believed it.

    And, as I have already told you, I have met "these people" and they don't act anything like how you tell me they act. You are just as crazy as the Nazis believing in Jewish conspiracies being true. You tell me how horrible the Left is to the Right in the US (as someone who doesn't live here) and then I go outside and don't see that at all.
    Are you really comparing facts like courses in critical race theory to Nazi conspiracies about Jews? Really dude?
    Quote Originally Posted by The spartan View Post
    Yes, you encourage the polarization, partisan attitude here in the US and seem to want American on American violence to increase. As a non-American.
    We are all citizens of the American Empire. Honestly, if it wasn't for Trump, I'd want to quit Nato and ally with Russia.
    Quote Originally Posted by The spartan View Post
    I don't even know the number you are referring to. These gaga fantasies of "the tough Christian white guys will stomp out the libcucks" is really stupid. That isn't how an actual conflict would happen in this Country. You need to get out of your postmodernist bubble.
    The activists would fight. I see your side's activists, I see mine.
    Quote Originally Posted by The spartan View Post
    You got a study that is actually willing to say that in their abstract (or even within the study), or is this just your feels based analysis of data you don't understand?
    What study do you need? I'll see if I can provide you the full link if Shibboleth works.
    Last edited by Basil II the B.S; June 13, 2019 at 05:16 PM.

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    Default Re: The latest anti-liberal rant thread (get your daily dose here)

    Quote Originally Posted by Basil II the B.S View Post
    Are you really comparing facts like courses in critical race theory to Nazi conspiracies about Jews? Really dude?
    No, I am comparing your willingness to attack abstract concepts , such as ideologies or theoretical groups. with Nazis (or Bolsheviks, if you prefer) rather than respond to actual harm like normal people. If White people in the US were truly, truly suffering, I would be much more sympathetic to violent rhetoric to solve it. But that's not even remotely happening in the real world, instead you can only attack your perception of ideologies: "If the Left wins, they will round up all white people and sterilize them! I know they will!" or whatever. That way, you can only measure your vitriolic rhetoric with theoretical people in your mind.

    Nazis never suffered from oppression by Jews, they just blamed past failings on them and said that the Jews would destroy the German race if they could, and that was enough for them to do some horrific things. They never needed to actually suffer that oppression in order to get that angry. Likewise, you seem to be super pro violence-as-a-solution despite never suffering oppression from these groups that allegedly want to do so.

    Quote Originally Posted by Basil II the B.S View Post
    We are all citizens of the American Empire. Honestly, if it wasn't for Trump, I'd want to quit Nato and ally with Russia.
    I am sure you would. Putin doesn't suffer political opponents, that's for sure.

    Have you ever read much on Fascism? I think you would really like. Honestly, I don't even mean this in a disparaging way, I think you would find a lot to like in Fascism. Hyper nationalism, unilateral authoritarian action, might-is-right, State action on ethnic interests; they have a lot going for them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Basil II the B.S View Post
    The activists would fight. I see your side's activists, I see mine.
    No, the State would not allow just open extremists on extremists violence happening in the street. Widespread conflict would not occur unless the legitimacy of the State were up to question (which could happen) in which case you could get an actual civil war. At that point, it is not "activists fighting activists", but political factions in a power struggle for the government. The "toughness" of individual soldiers matters for little at this point compared to access to material, resources, and competent military command.
    Quote Originally Posted by Basil II the B.S View Post
    What study do you need? I'll see if I can provide you the full link if Shibboleth works.
    A study that claims Liberals are weak pansies compared to Conservatives or whatever. Not data from a study you interpret as indicating that is the case, an actual study that asserts as much itself.
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