The latest anti-liberal rant thread (get your daily dose here)

[Common Soldier]

But are Muslim men more dangerous than Christian men? Are black men more dangerous than white men?

What are your thoughts Common?

Fundamentally no. Raised in the.proper environment, black men are not any more violent. Black men are not innately more violent, same for Muslim men.


However, because of the environment many black men are raised in, they statistically more violent, but that is a statistical thing applying to groups and not any one individual. Men are bigger than women is true, but only statistically true. In any random.sample of men and women, men on the average will be bigger, but there are many idividual women bigger and stronger than most but not all men.

So.if you take a random.sample of say a hundred black men and a hundred white men, you will find more examples of violence among the black men than among the white men. But the overwhelming number of men in either group would not be violent. With the number one cause of death among young black men is homicide caused by other black men. you cannot deny that statistically, young black men are more violent. However, that is due to the environment and cultural values they were raided in, and not biology.

As for Muslims, I can't say if statically if they are more prone to violence or not, I do not enough data to say. They are more likely to be a terrorist (statistically). However, again the overwhelming numher of Muslims are not terrorist

[wanderwegger]

So black culture is just more violent? I wonder if there are systemic issues at play.

What makes a terrorist vs a freedom fighter. The British called many revolutionary war soldiers in the US terrorists. To the Palestinian every member of the IDF is a terrorist. To the French the Vietcong were terrorists. To the Elizabeth’s many Catholics were terrorists. To the English the irish are terrorists.

Is the proper environment where white people are raised?

Fundamentally no. Raised in the.proper environment, black men are not any more violent. Black men are not innately more violent, same for Muslim men.


However, because of the environment many black men are raised in, they statistically more violent, but that is a statical thing applying to groups ans not any one individual. Men are bigger than women is true, but only statistically true. In any random.sample of men and women, men on the average will be bigger, but there are many idividual women bigger and stronger than most but not all men.

So.if you take a random.sample of say a hundred black men and a hundred white men, you will find more examples of violence among the black men than among the white men. But the overwhelming number of men in either group would not be violent. With the number one cause of death among young black men is homicide caused by other black men. you cannot deny thslat statistically, young black men are mire violent. However, that is due to the environment and cultural values they were raused in, and not biology.

As for Muslims, I can't say if staticallynif they are more prone to violence or not, I do not enough data to say. They are more likely.to be a terrorist (statistically).. However, again the overwhelming numher of Muslims.are not terrorist

[Cookiegod]

Men are far more violent than women. They are however, half the population and evenly distributed through that population, therefore it is just impractical to put them under more scrutiny on a national scale.

On the ground however, it makes sense if police are looking for a male suspect, to profile men as such and not give women much notice. The vice versa applies equally.

For the same crimes, women get consistently much lower sentences than men. That's institutional sexism and needs to be dealt with.

[wanderwegger]

Institutional sexism and racism in justice are facts. Only a fool would deny either. Look Cookie. We agree on some things.

[alhoon]

So black culture is just more violent?

Nope. I don't think anyone said that. As I said, It doesn't go by the color of one's skin, it is affected by one's present circumstances and education. Poor people and poorly educated people with few prospects to get a better life are more dangerous.
If the situation was changed by a magic wand and green-skinned humans appeared and were poorly educated, trapped in a system (yes a system) that gave them fewer opportunities on top of their fewer prospects and they were poor and unable to afford a reasonable quality of life without turning to crime large and small, then these green-skinned humans would be more dangerous than white men.
White people in the poor areas and crime-infested ghettos are probably as likely to be violent as black people.

[wanderwegger]

I think the issue is more complex. Police enforcement plays its part. Systemic racism through US systems and culture. Etc. The world is only as deep as one can see.

[Infidel144]

Did you know that Alien and Predator are anti-black:
"Ridley Scott’s Alien, which comports with the trope of Black women as alien breeders and Predator, written by brothers Jim and John Thomas, that riffs on images of Black men as dreadlocked, violent and superhuman."

"Ridley Scott’s Alien franchise, with its vicious and endlessly breeding carbon black alien mother [...] signifies the Black woman as an unkillable and ceaselessly breeding alien who threatened the body politic."

"Predator depicted a Black, dreadlocked, large and super-virile male in a way that converged white art with white political history."

https://theconversation.com/how-holl...-racism-127088

[alhoon]

Did you know that Alien and Predator are anti-black:
"Ridley Scott’s Alien, which comports with the trope of Black women as alien breeders and Predator, written by brothers Jim and John Thomas, that riffs on images of Black men as dreadlocked, violent and superhuman."

"Ridley Scott’s Alien franchise, with its vicious and endlessly breeding carbon black alien mother [...] signifies the Black woman as an unkillable and ceaselessly breeding alien who threatened the body politic."

"Predator depicted a Black, dreadlocked, large and super-virile male in a way that converged white art with white political history."

https://theconversation.com/how-holl...-racism-127088

The fact that NONE OF THOSE TWO happen to be humans seems to have been a missed detail in the analysis of these looking-for-reasons-to-be-upset slacktivists.


The 0.1% that will see Alien and say "Wow, this alien, not anthropomorphic, completely bizarre thing is scary like the black people!" are already too far gone into racism.

EDIT And as expected, the idiot that wrote this trash about how Alien promotes a "Sexualized fear of black people" (!?!?!?) is not black!
You see, there's a pattern here: White progressive idiots trying virtue signaling are saying crap that you don't hear the vast majority black people saying. You see, the black people that decry and protest racism are generally sane and are protesting reasonable things.
White Slacktivists protest complete rubbish that have no effect what-so-ever.

[Lord Thesaurian]

Did you know that Alien and Predator are anti-black:
"Ridley Scott’s Alien, which comports with the trope of Black women as alien breeders and Predator, written by brothers Jim and John Thomas, that riffs on images of Black men as dreadlocked, violent and superhuman."

"Ridley Scott’s Alien franchise, with its vicious and endlessly breeding carbon black alien mother [...] signifies the Black woman as an unkillable and ceaselessly breeding alien who threatened the body politic."

"Predator depicted a Black, dreadlocked, large and super-virile male in a way that converged white art with white political history."

https://theconversation.com/how-holl...-racism-127088

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Another so-called liberal projecting racism onto things he doesn’t like.

[Infidel144]

EDIT And as expected, the idiot that wrote this trash about how Alien promotes a "Sexualized fear of black people" (!?!?!?) is not black!

The Author is:
Tamari Kitossa
Associate Professor, Sociology, Brock University
The picture provided in the article looks to be of a black man.
Here is a larger picture:
https://www.bufa.ca/about/core-princ...amari-kitossa/

Another so-called liberal projecting racism onto things he doesn’t like.

Now I am curious, has anyone here, who bothers reading this, seen the Alien or the Predator as depicting black women and men?

[Lord Thesaurian]

Brief and incisive critique from WSJ:

Leaders in business, academia and government are increasingly adopting “antiracist” training and policies in response to the Black Lives Matter movement. In some cases, this reflects genuine interest in decreasing racial discrimination. In others, it is a salve for what Shelby Steele calls “white guilt.” Elsewhere, it arises from fear that even liberal institutions may otherwise become vulnerable to cancel culture. When properly conceived, antiracist programs can provide a powerful response to hate and bias incidents. The problem with much of today’s antiracism is that it doesn’t really oppose invidious discrimination and may even foment it.

The new antiracism is not, as its etymology suggests, opposition to racial discrimination. Ibram X. Kendi demonstrates this in his 2019 bestseller, “How to Be an Antiracist.” He defines “racism” as a combination of policies and ideas that “produces and normalizes racial inequities.” This racism has nothing to do with individual discrimination. Rather, it is support for institutions that yield disparities. Lest there be confusion, Mr. Kendi emphasizes that “focusing on ‘racial discrimination’ takes our eyes off” the policy goals he and other self-proclaimed antiracists support.

The new antiracism’s failures run deeper. Consider University of Southern California student Rose Ritch, who recently resigned as vice president of her undergraduate student government. Ms. Ritch was harassed by “antiracist” students because she is a self-proclaimed Zionist. She was told that her support for Israel made her complicit in racism, and that by association she is racist. Students launched an aggressive social-media campaign to “impeach her Zionist a—.” This harassment revived anti-Semitic stereotypes and created precisely the sort of harm that antiracism should fight.

Last week, USC’s Black Student Assembly condemned university president Carol Folt for supporting Ms. Ritch. The BSA argued that it was antiblack to denounce anti-Zionism, ignore Ms. Ritch’s “white privilege” and “disregard” the black students who had opposed her.

It is encouraging that many Americans are now conscious of the prejudice that African-Americans and other minorities often face. Sadly, the new antiracism provides all the wrong answers. Rather than turn our focus away from invidious discrimination, we must confront it directly. To defeat racism, we must turn away from the new antiracism.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-not...st-11598289191

[alhoon]

Look, 100 years ago it was the re-education camps.
Now it's sensitivity training.

[alhoon]

The Author is:
Tamari Kitossa
Associate Professor, Sociology, Brock University
The picture provided in the article looks to be of a black man.
Here is a larger picture:
https://www.bufa.ca/about/core-princ...amari-kitossa/

Ehh.. what? THe one I see in the article is: Paul Keaveny, Commissioning Editor, Insights that is certainly not black.
The professor you linked... I read his page and he doesn't sound like someone that would say that kind of crap. I may not agree with everything he says, but he sounds like a sane person with a bad haircut I disagree with, not a weirdo that would think that Alien somehow sexualizes black women.

[Infidel144]

Ehh.. what? THe one I see in the article is: Paul Keaveny, Commissioning Editor, Insights that is certainly not black.

When you clich on the link I provided do you got to an article at "The Conversation", with the title "How Hollywood’s ‘Alien’ and ‘Predator’ movies reinforce anti-Black racism"?
The words "Paul", "Keaveny" and "Commissioning" do not appear in it, though he is an editor at that website.

The professor you linked... I read his page and he doesn't sound like someone that would say that kind of crap. I may not agree with everything he says, but he sounds like a sane person with a bad haircut I disagree with, not a weirdo that would think that Alien somehow sexualizes black women.

Well, he did write the article.

[alhoon]

Then, unfortunately, the image I got from his Uni page was incorrect and he's looking for things that are not there in order to be offended.

[Prodromos]

Now I am curious, has anyone here, who bothers reading this, seen the Alien or the Predator as depicting black women and men?

No, the thought never crossed my mind until you mentioned it here.

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I wonder if it'll ever occur to 'woke' leftists that most people don't think about race anywhere near as much as they do

[sumskilz]

he's looking for things that are not there in order to be offended.

Or... he's just figured out how to secure a respected position in academia.

[Common Soldier]

The Author is:
Tamari Kitossa
Associate Professor, Sociology, Brock University
The picture provided in the article looks to be of a black man.
Here is a larger picture:
https://www.bufa.ca/about/core-princ...amari-kitossa/


Now I am curious, has anyone here, who bothers reading this, seen the Alien or the Predator as depicting black women and men?

After centuries of facing bigotry, it is natural for some African Americans to take offense where none was meant. I can't help to wonder what is.next. Will we object ro ninjas wearing black? And if can't wear black, what color? Can't bd white, white is color death and.morning in Asia. Not pink, perhaps grey, or would seniors object?

Perhaps orange? Orange is the new black, they say.

[alhoon]

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/...mental-health/

Holy crap. Progressives have lost it. Hearing a word somewhat similar to the N-word "affected the mental health" of ALL black students? Seriously?
Man, what kind of fragile snowflakes are in the unis today.

I am sorry for an acquaintance of mine, a German who's last name is the N-word. Apparently he can never work in USA's academia.

[Sar1n]

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/...mental-health/

Holy crap. Progressives have lost it. Hearing a word somewhat similar to the N-word "affected the mental health" of ALL black students? Seriously?
Man, what kind of fragile snowflakes are in the unis today.

I am sorry for an acquaintance of mine, a German who's last name is the N-word. Apparently he can never work in USA's academia.

What do you expect, if the American culture is such that it's beneficial for one to be offended by something, especially if the person has the right racial background, it's only logical that people will look for reasons to be offended.