The latest anti-liberal rant thread (get your daily dose here)

[EmperorBatman999]

I am sick and tired of this endless blame and shame train around vaccine choices. It feels like I’m living through The Crucible every single day. I have my concerns about its safety, don’t believe it’s the end-all to the pandemic considering its current performance, I know people who were directly damaged by it, and this cultish mantra of “Safe and Effective” does not put me at ease. If anything, it makes me more repulsed against getting it, and I want to keep an open mind to the facts and ideas otherwise. Now I fear I am losing real-life friends and any respect they had for me by speaking my opinion to them.

[Infidel144]

I am sick and tired of this endless blame and shame train around vaccine choices. It feels like I’m living through The Crucible every single day. I have my concerns about its safety, don’t believe it’s the end-all to the pandemic considering its current performance, I know people who were directly damaged by it, and this cultish mantra of “Safe and Effective” does not put me at ease. If anything, it makes me more repulsed against getting it, and I want to keep an open mind to the facts and ideas otherwise. Now I fear I am losing real-life friends and any respect they had for me by speaking my opinion to them.

I know it is a trite response but, their 'friendship' is likely worthless, in the end.

[Knight of Heaven]

I am sick and tired of this endless blame and shame train around vaccine choices. It feels like I’m living through The Crucible every single day. I have my concerns about its safety, don’t believe it’s the end-all to the pandemic considering its current performance, I know people who were directly damaged by it, and this cultish mantra of “Safe and Effective” does not put me at ease. If anything, it makes me more repulsed against getting it, and I want to keep an open mind to the facts and ideas otherwise. Now I fear I am losing real-life friends and any respect they had for me by speaking my opinion to them.

People this days are so tribal, and close minded in a polarized way. I found people right now, have few tolerance with divergent opinions. They are so fast associating opinions with stereotypes and such. Its crazy really.

I just watched Biden gave his speech on mask , and vaccines mandates. His tone completely condescending, and disgusting. He has harsher words for people who dont wear masks, or refuse to be vaccinated, then the Taliban. Also contradicting what he said before the election, breaking his promise.
And just like always doesn't answers questions. Within the american context, i doubt the office of the president has this power to force the states to comply, or even if this program is constitutional.

[Infidel144]

Uppity black people need to know their place:

[Hobbes]

I am sick and tired of this endless blame and shame train around vaccine choices. It feels like I’m living through The Crucible every single day. I have my concerns about its safety, don’t believe it’s the end-all to the pandemic considering its current performance, I know people who were directly damaged by it, and this cultish mantra of “Safe and Effective” does not put me at ease. If anything, it makes me more repulsed against getting it, and I want to keep an open mind to the facts and ideas otherwise. Now I fear I am losing real-life friends and any respect they had for me by speaking my opinion to them.

Get vaccinated.

[Knight of Heaven]

Uppity black people need to know their place:

Ah yes the tolerant liberal left wing. They are very tolerant, as long you toe their line of course. Just like antifa and BLM.

Get vaccinated.

Or not, regardless where one stands on the vaccines ( me personally i would recommend, but i would never force or blackmail someone to do it), It is his personal choice, not anyone else. Not his so called friends either.

[Prodromos]

Uppity black people need to know their place:

Jussie Smollett Disguises Self As Larry Elder So People Will Commit Real Hate Crimes Against Him - The Babylon Bee

[Knight of Heaven]

Justice for Jucy that French actor.

[Lord Thesaurian]

National Archives decides America’s Founding Documents are “harmful,” must include trigger warning

https://www.archives.gov/research/re...armful-content

Are you awake yet?

[Sir Adrian]

Who's getting triggered? The English? Or is all that liberty triggering maoist sensibilities?

[Lord Thesaurian]

Who's getting triggered? The English? Or is all that liberty triggering maoist sensibilities?

I’m pretty sure Cope is a big fan of the Constitution

[alhoon]

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/n...ey/1503758001/

Bad news for the progressive politicians that were banking on identity politics to carry the youth vote. Generation Z shapes up to be more conservative than Millennials and Gen-X

When as many people of age 18-34 as of age 52-71 in 2019 reply they would uncomfortable with a gay teacher, you can expect that as Boomers die or become de-invested in politics, Zoomers would fill in the conservative gap and carry the flag against the progressives.

[EmperorBatman999]

Interesting, I wonder, what has caused such a reflexive reaction in Gen-Z that has caused them to become more conservative? Has Gen-Z had enough of the woke bombardment? Is it an aspect of their disrespect and disregard for Millennials, who are associated with woke culture?

[Heathen Hammer]

Interesting, I wonder, what has caused such a reflexive reaction in Gen-Z that has caused them to become more conservative? Has Gen-Z had enough of the woke bombardment? Is it an aspect of their disrespect and disregard for Millennials, who are associated with woke culture?

When a counter-culture becomes dominant, it also becomes more vulnerable to newer counter-cultures.
In such ways, woke left replaced evangelical right (proven by the fact that corporations and interest groups that now back the former used to back the latter), and became "the man", in on itself.
Now right-wing populist identitarianism is becoming the new counter-culture. As Jonny Rotten said, conservatism is the new punk.
Ironically same former "anti-establishment' figures that professionally rebelled against evangelical right a few decades ago are now acting in the exact same way or even worse, form calls of repression and censorship of scary anti-establishment ideas to outright violence.

[Lord Thesaurian]

I would take a single poll with a grain of salt when it comes to this stuff (bear in mind the “LGBT Lobby” conducting it would have nothing to lobby for if they fail to convince people society hates them). Gen Z is also the most heavily Hispanic generation, so to the extent there’s a surprising amount of conservatism, that could be a factor. Overall though, I wouldn’t celebrate a backlash against auth left dominance just yet, nor even a change in the trend. Gen Z is also the most atheist, least Christian generation in American history. They also tend to have the least favorable view of capitalism and the most favorable view of socialism/communism.

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[Heathen Hammer]

The poll in question talks about how zoomers are less liberal in their opinions, then they were in 2017/18. I'd say its the generation that is losing its "liberalism" at faster rate then the others.

[alhoon]

Interesting, I wonder, what has caused such a reflexive reaction in Gen-Z that has caused them to become more conservative? Has Gen-Z had enough of the woke bombardment? Is it an aspect of their disrespect and disregard for Millennials, who are associated with woke culture?

It is the conservative push-back against the SJWs.
And of course, it is young people being angry at society because that's what young people do. When the "evil and oppressive" teachers talk to you about LGBT rights, you rebel against their authority and automatically choose the other side. Which happens to be conservative. As a gen-Xer, I was much more conservative when younger, my morals started eroding as I started interacting with more people till at some point 6-7 years ago I hit my line, decided I have watered down my initial stance enough, and have started becoming slightly more conservative as time passes but I don't expect I will ever be as conservative as I was when I was 18, where my grandfather (~80 years old at the time) was more progressive than me in some issues.
You can expect that with the Zoomers too. In 10 years, they will be less conservative than they are now as Millenians became less progressive as they grew older.
You usually gravitate ,ore towards the mean of your social circle.

They also tend to have the least favorable view of capitalism and the most favorable view of socialism/communism.

Which is a good thing. Remember, we're not talking about 2nd world countries here. In the 1st world, where you have comfortable people with their shows and couch-activism behind anonymous twitter accounts... socialism is not the state troops breaking into your house in the middle of the night.
It is more or less "more worker rights" and "thicker social net". Capitalism is also not anarchocapitalism where the boss beats up the employees and if they complain, fires them while poluting rivers with abandon. It is more or less "less taxation" and "less government interference in business".

[Sir Adrian]

Interesting, I wonder, what has caused such a reflexive reaction in Gen-Z that has caused them to become more conservative? Has Gen-Z had enough of the woke bombardment? Is it an aspect of their disrespect and disregard for Millennials, who are associated with woke culture?

Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.

[Heathen Hammer]

Liberalism today is simply what evangelical right was in 80s and 90s. Instead of Satanic Panic we have Alt-Panic instead and instead of accusing metalheads, gamers and free thinkers for being practicing "Satanists", establishment is now calling them "racist"., but nature of both charges is the same - dumb human mass that unironically takes mainstream media seriously and falls for perceived boogeyman every time. Its not surprising that in such environment zoomers are now leaning to the right at a faster pace. Just imagine what its like for a teenager to grow up in modern liberal household, where "covid is taken seriously" and thus treated like inmate in high-security prison, all while he/she would also be pressured by parents to change gender, because it would give them something to brag about on Twitter, and anything but mainstream sterile culture is taboo, because it could be potentially "alt-right" or "offensive".

[Lord Thesaurian]

"What we witnessed takes us back hundreds of years. What we witnessed was worse than what we witnessed in slavery," Waters said at a Wednesday press conference. "Cowboys with their reins, again, whipping Black people, Haitians, into the water where they're scrambling and falling down when all they're trying to do is escape from violence in their country."

"I'm pissed. I'm unhappy and I'm not just unhappy with the cowboys, who were running down Haitians and using their reins to whip them," Waters added. "I'm unhappy with the administration."

https://www.newsweek.com/maxine-wate...lavery-1631707

I suppose she prefers the BP had simply ridden over people like cavalry in the old days, instead of trying to deter them through the sort of means parents use on children. If what she says is true, the only logical conclusion is that the federal government owes the former confederate states an apology, and probably war reparations.