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    Quote Originally Posted by antaeus View Post
    Congrats.

    What do you think institutions are, other than collections of individuals or the sum of their collective thoughts, negotiations and compromises?

    I mean, the Constitution is literally the end result of a bunch of people getting together, and nutting out a framework that is entirely based on their legal and moral understandings. And it is designed to be an editable, updateable, living document. So if this moral panic you're so enamoured with does indeed become dominant or mainstream, the only thing that prevents it becoming constitutional as well is a vote or two in Washington (simplified for effect).

    So yeah. Selective moral panic. Boo hoo. Cry me a river.
    Interesting that the argument has shifted from whataboutery regarding the pledge to an effective admission that politicized/pseudo-religious discrimination in higher education is agreeable. After all, since the First Amendment could hypothetically be abolished, there's no real reason to observe it, much less a culture of political impartiality in major institutions.



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    So kind of like the pledge of allegiance?
    Horrible analogy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cope View Post
    Interesting that the argument has shifted from whataboutery regarding the pledge to an effective admission that politicized/pseudo-religious discrimination in higher education is agreeable. After all, since the First Amendment could hypothetically be abolished, there's no real reason to observe it, much less a culture of political impartiality in major institutions.
    I think that you are either deliberately, or by way of following the views of others, taking the opinions of some very small few self-labeled progressives, and combining them with a particularly narrow view of what you call 'critical theory' and using this to attack broader progressive agendas in ways that don't actually align with actual mainstream liberal policy or intent. There is a great deal of straw man going on that seeks to destabilise general liberal policy discussion by tying it to a moral panic. You can tangle it up in fancy speak, but that's what this moral panic is. It is PC of the 90s all over.

    I think what you are presenting is farcically biased, and out of scope with reality, probably intentionally. And thus, I don't feel the need to respond to you with anything but farce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antaeus View Post
    I think that you are either deliberately, or by way of following the views of others, taking the opinions of some very small few self-labeled progressives, and combining them with a particularly narrow view of what you call 'critical theory' and using this to attack broader progressive agendas in ways that don't actually align with actual mainstream liberal policy or intent.

    There is a great deal of straw man going on that seeks to destabilise general liberal policy discussion by tying it to a moral panic. You can tangle it up in fancy speak, but that's what this moral panic is. It is PC of the 90s all over.

    I think what you are presenting is farcically biased, and out of scope with reality, probably intentionally. And thus, I don't feel the need to respond to you with anything but farce.
    That certainly is a convenient list of excuses for refusing to engage with the evidence. I continue to find it peculiar that so many liberals (esp. in positions of influence or power) who're open about their commitment to race essentialism seem to recoil in horror and denial when shown proof of the institutionalization of their beliefs.



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    Quote Originally Posted by antaeus View Post
    It is an outlandishly exaggerated fear about a moral teaching. So yeah. Criticism of a racist marxist pseudo-science being taught in school is amoral panic.
    Parents being concerned over real education being replaced with pseudo-science is a legitimate concern, not a moral panic.
    Having said that, government and media reaction to this is certainly a good example of moral panic.
    Parents pay for this crap, so its their right to determine what's on the curriculum. How would you like it, if they would just teach National-Socialism and Holocaust denial in school to your kids, and if you protest they claim you are an unhinged communist who doesn't want children to learn about crimes of communism in the past? They use the same sophistry to justify CRT being taught, so it just comes down to closet marxists being salty for being called out on polluting education system with their propaganda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heathen Hammer View Post
    Parents pay for this crap, so its their right to determine what's on the curriculum. How would you like it, if they would just teach National-Socialism and Holocaust denial in school to your kids, and if you protest they claim you are an unhinged communist who doesn't want children to learn about crimes of communism in the past? They use the same sophistry to justify CRT being taught, so it just comes down to closet marxists being salty for being called out on polluting education system with their propaganda.
    I agree with the above.

    Keep in mind that the rightwings are not blameless.
    I think there are schools that "Creationism Only" is being taught.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alhoon View Post
    I agree with the above.

    Keep in mind that the rightwings are not blameless.
    I think there are schools that "Creationism Only" is being taught.
    As someone who is generally culturally conservative, I would say that the Creationism vs. Evolution debate is the dumbest thing in the discourse on education.

    Get over it, Protestants, it's an even more amazing testament to God's power that he granted all life the capacity to change, adapt, and develop based on the creature's own needs and the pressures of its environment, rather than Him just fashioning different things at different times. The Catholics understand this, I don't know why the other sects don't.
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    Creationism has never been in education, and if it is, that's good thing. Stop spreading a moral panic.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Cope View Post
    Creationism has never been in education, and if it is, that's good thing. Stop spreading a moral panic.
    It certainly can be. My cousins were homeschooled and taught Young Earth Creationism. What's the bold part mean?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The spartan View Post
    It certainly can be. My cousins were homeschooled and taught Young Earth Creationism. What's the bold part mean?
    It was just a little sarcasm/mockery.



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    It certainly can be. My cousins were homeschooled and taught Young Earth Creationism. What's the bold part mean?
    I am pretty sure there are school districts that go either "Teach only creationism" or "teach creationism also".
    As there are a ton of school districts that teach abstinence only in the era of cellphone porn.
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    https://www.yahoo.com/news/plain-tru...140008656.html

    The sentiment of the article, that good, sane people are being gagged by the loud woke mob and the progressives all around the west, is true.

    The example now, while true is not... ideal. Sure, it's not racist to say that the gangster parent of the 7 years old, with a target on his back, failed his kid for getting her with him.
    Still, it douchey to do so. You can be a douchebag without being racist. And that's the case with the McDonalds CEO.
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    I love you self just, good christians.

    A innocent 7 year old girl of a gang member had been shot. But instead of some pity with the gang member, who at least cared a little bit about his kid unlike many others, who don't care about their kids at all, you come with accusations( "Its alone your fault, why did you gang scum have your little child with you").

    Thats truly christian "Love your next!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morticia Iunia Bruti View Post
    I love you self just, good christians.

    A innocent 7 year old girl of a gang member had been shot. But instead of some pity with the gang member, who at least cared a little bit about his kid unlike many others, who don't care about their kids at all, you come with accusations( "Its alone your fault, why did you gang scum have your little child with you").

    Thats truly christian "Love your next!"
    The douchebag CEO didn't say it was the gangster's fault alone. The gangster didn't pull the trigger.
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    Its insensible and unchristian to kick an already on the floor laying man with "you should have known better".

    Last time i read the bible, pity and mercy for the suffering of others was one of the main points in the NT.

    The "woke crowd" is absolutely right with ignorant and inacceptable.

    I guess you could find better enraging examples, what the pinkhaired left had done wrong.
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    Its funny, because everyone is taking this old debate on who was right, while ignoring the fact that that place has been almost exclusively ruled by Democrats for decades and it makes 2004 Bagdad look safe and stable.

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    Mcdonalds CEO spitting facts. But its what people dont want to hear, because its an inconvenient reality. Its more comfortable to blame it on abstract notions of systemic overall structural issues.

    But everyone knows the issue starts in the family and Its dissolution. Specially on African american communities. The numbers and evidence dont lie. Unfortunately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alhoon View Post
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/plain-tru...140008656.html

    The sentiment of the article, that good, sane people are being gagged by the loud woke mob and the progressives all around the west, is true.
    There won't be sane people in the next generation there.

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    Democrats fall flat with ‘Latinx’ language
    “Why are we using a word that is preferred by only 2 percent, but offends as many as 40 percent of those voters we want to win?” said one pollster.
    As Democrats seek to reach out to Latino voters in a more gender-neutral way, they’ve increasingly begun using the word Latinx, a term that first began to get traction among academics and activists on the left.
    But that very effort could be counterproductive in courting those of Latin American descent, according to a new nationwide poll of Hispanic voters.
    https://www.politico.com/news/2021/1...x-term-523776?

    Latinx people don't like the term Latinx? What is wrong with them?
    They should just listen to their white leftist betters!

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